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I do find the Minecon "the thing we can't talk about" hint pretty interesting.

Fellas Nintendo really isn't as reluctant to reveal stuff outside of Directs as we think.
Remember Starlink?

My hopes aren't up but it wouldn't have been the first time or anything this happened.
that was E3 though and a separate game. Smash reveals likely won’t happen outside of Nintendo events, but game collabs with other developers are fair game
 

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I would need to see what you specifically posted, but I definitely think people were being pretty unreasonable, both in what they were saying and the premise that he had to give the music theory the time of day.
I can't show you. The thread has been terminated by GameFAQS moderators.
 

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I do find the Minecon "the thing we can't talk about" hint pretty interesting.

Fellas Nintendo really isn't as reluctant to reveal stuff outside of Directs as we think.
Remember Starlink?

My hopes aren't up but it wouldn't have been the first time or anything this happened.
It would still be Funny If he was announced there, Talk about an out of left field announcement
 

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I do find the Minecon "the thing we can't talk about" hint pretty interesting.

Fellas Nintendo really isn't as reluctant to reveal stuff outside of Directs as we think.
Remember Starlink?

My hopes aren't up but it wouldn't have been the first time or anything this happened.
Minecon is also huge. I wouldn't be surprised if they worked with Mojang to reveal Minecraft content in Smash there. At the least, it would be revealed in a video put up by Nintendo around the same day or in the next direct.
 
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I do find the Minecon "the thing we can't talk about" hint pretty interesting.

Fellas Nintendo really isn't as reluctant to reveal stuff outside of Directs as we think.
Remember Starlink?

My hopes aren't up but it wouldn't have been the first time or anything this happened.
I've been out of the loop a lot of today, what's this about a "The thing we can't talk about"?
 

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In regards to Vergeben's fighterZ info, he had gotten some info wrong on DLC fighers (he suggested Zarbon and Raditz would be DLC, later he backtracked on that saying that the source that told him that in particular was BS) but he was one of, if not the FIRST to say that base Goku and Vegeta were going to be DLC. Even before all the DLC fighters got data-mined after the game's release.

That call in particular takes some balls or actual legit info, because those two were very unpopular picks for people.
 
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Using Autism as an insult is wrong, doesn't matter how common it is.

It's just as wrong as using someone's sexuality or race as an insult. Doesn't matter how common of an insult Gay once was (and still is in some parts), using it as an insult is still wrong.
 

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I plead guilty at charge.
But if you take anything said on 4chan seriously, you're already letting >US win because that's the reaction >we want.

Nono of course lmao. I'm just saying a guy like Verg could be terrible and still be credible. I think the leakers during the Brawl days were infinitely worse imo, but they were still right haha.
 

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So if music theory is still true, then our newcomers left are basically Elma, new series characters and echoes.

I do think it's interesting that we haven't gotten XC music yet when the music is literally the best Nintendo has under their wings.

Ken, Elma, Steve and Lara Croft/Sora for the final 4?
 

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I've been out of the loop a lot of today, what's this about a "The thing we can't talk about"?
One of the Minecraft Developers teased something about Minecon, stating that he was excited about something that he couldn't talk about. Some people are speculating that it might be something Smash related.
There was a problem fetching the tweet
 
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In regards to Vergeben's fighterZ info, he had gotten some info wrong on DLC fighers (he suggested Zarbon and Raditz would be DLC, later he backtracked on that) but he was one of, if not the FIRST to say that base Goku and Vegeta were going to be DLC. Even before all the DLC fighters got data-mined after the game's release.

That call in particular takes some balls or actual legit info, because those two were very unpopular picks for people.
He specified before the DLC was datamined that Raditz came from a different source. Believe me, I was around at the time and have gone back and checked again a month or so back.

As we've established, he has more than one source, not all of them reliable. But he has information regardless.

One of the Minecraft Developers teased something about Minecon, stating that he was excited about something that he couldn't talk about
There was a problem fetching the tweet
I mean... couldn't that apply to literally ANYTHING related to Minecraft? Like, obviously he can't talk about anything getting revealed there.
 
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Using Autism as an insult is wrong, doesn't matter how common it is.

It's just as wrong as using someone's sexuality or race as an insult. Doesn't matter how common of an insult Gay once was (and still is in some parts), using it as an insult is still wrong.
I say he could have better controlled his anger. I mean, it was hard not to get angry, but still, that was no excuse for saying that. Still, I would not harass him like those on GameFAQs did.
 

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He specified before the DLC was datamined that Raditz came from a different source. Believe me, I was around at the time and have gone back and checked again a month or so back.

As we've established, he has more than one source, not all of them reliable. But he has information regardless.
That was what I meant by backtrack but I probably should clarify that. That was also around the time where he was VERY loose with which sources he'd go public with so it's also understandable.
 

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I swear if people start counting Incineroar out because of Music Theory i'm gonna be disappointed.
 
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I swear if people start counting Incineroar out because of Music Theory i'm gonna be disappointed.
The salt that’d come out of it would be hilarious tho. Incineroar (or really, any Pokemon’s Reveal) would be the final nail in the coffin for Music Theory.

And remember, salt fuels Incineroar’s power.
 

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Proof that Verge used autism as an insult. I never liked the guy, personally.
So what? That's doesn't make him bad guy in our eyes, but he's still credible leaker in our eyes because of how he was correct about his leaks: Simon being in, Isabelle is also in as well but strangely not echo for villager.


Okay I know this is a risky move and i'm gonna get a lot of hell or even get banned from this site, but I was KamekNo1Fan, and I can open my banned account and post a picture if you want me to prove it.
In my defense, while I did ping Verge nonstop, all I merely wanted was an explanation as to why his leaks didn't match up with the Music Theory. Many of his defenders on GameFAQS then shapeshifted that into me somehow "harassing" him.

And yes, I also did ping PushDustin a lot, and in retrospect, i'm sorry to Push. That being said, I was irritated at the time how hard he was clinging to the box theory, and I wanted an explanation.

Feel free to ask me anything. Yes, i'm ready for a heatwave of hatred.


Bud, I know that I find it so irritating because people like Push are supporting the box theory even I find it too stupid and pointless when the theory is based on current Special Edition box image/placeholder.

That said, what did you do in the past was clearly wrong because you were pinging Verge for explanation on why such pointless music theory didn't match up with his leaks. Even some of us knows that's bull**** because how can such theory make sense if said theory is based on new music from any series which can signals the incoming newcomers or not.
 
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So what? That's doesn't make him bad guy in our eyes, but he's still credible leaker in our eyes because of how he was correct about his leaks: Simon being in, Isabelle is also in as well but strangely not echo for villager.




Bud, I know that I find it so irritating because people like Push are supporting the box theory even I find it too stupid and pointless when the theory is based on current Special Edition box image/placeholder.

That said, what did you do in the past was clearly wrong because you were pinging Verge for explanation on why such pointless music theory didn't match up with his leaks. Even some of us knows that's bull**** because how can such theory make sense if said theory is based on new music which can signals the incoming newcomers or not.
I don't have evidence to prove it, but in my first post I clarified that I never believed in the music theory, and I was merely waiting for Verge to explain his stance on his leaks clashing with it.

A simple "Incineroar is still in, music theory is false" would've done it, but Verge instead resorted to other means... including various insulting remarks.
 

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I'm of the opinion that Minecon probably wouldn't show a character trailer, but I could definitely see them showing off a Minecraft stage there. I doubt they'd do that if Steve was full-on in the game though.
 

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I don't have evidence to prove it, but in my first post I clarified that I never believed in the music theory, and I was merely waiting for Verge to explain his stance on his leaks clashing with it.

A simple "Incineroar is still in, music theory is false" would've done it, but Verge instead resorted to other means... including various insulting remarks.
I mean, can you seriously blame him?


You admitted yourself that you had been pinging him nonstop.



Had it been me, I would have snapped too, and I'm actually mentally damaged, so whatever Verg said, I wouldn't have held anything back in my **** spewing.
 

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I mean, can you seriously blame him?


You admitted yourself that you had been pinging him nonstop.



Had it been me, I would have snapped too, and I'm actually mentally damaged, so whatever Verg said, I wouldn't have held anything back in my **** spewing.
GameFAQS has an ignore feature that Verge himself claimed he used against me multiple times (in previous threads I made that questioned him, said threads are still up, if you'd like to take a look)

ALSO, GameFAQS has a feature that can actually disable all @ mentions.

I fail to realize how the pinging caused him to crack. Especially when many other users had been pinging him nonstop ever since he first started leaking. I was not the first one.
 

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So i left to do some errands and came back to 15 new pages, holy ****.

Did something happen? Something leaked?
 
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I don't have evidence to prove it, but in my first post I clarified that I never believed in the music theory, and I was merely waiting for Verge to explain his stance on his leaks clashing with it.

A simple "Incineroar is still in, music theory is false" would've done it, but Verge instead resorted to other means... including various insulting remarks.
Well, yeah. Verge prob don't want to be bothered to the posts about theory or can't comment on it which is why Vergeben ignored Music Theory, recent post from Verge today after music theory was disconfirmed is what would happen if he finally responds to the pings about music theory regerdless of up in air or being died.
 

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So i left to do some errands and came back to 15 new pages, holy ****.

Did something happen? Something leaked?
Blog update was Pokemon music.

Which means theories are hanging in the balance.
 

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GameFAQS has an ignore feature that Verge himself claimed he used against me multiple times (in previous threads I made that questioned him, said threads are still up, if you'd like to take a look)

ALSO, GameFAQS has a feature that can actually disable all @ mentions.

I fail to realize how the pinging caused him to crack. Especially when many other users had been pinging him nonstop ever since he first started leaking. I was not the first one.



This is more or less what you, and everyone did.



You, along with literally everyone else that had been pinging him nonstop probably pushed him to his wits end.
 

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So i left to do some errands and came back to 15 new pages, holy ****.

Did something happen? Something leaked?
The big surprise was a Pokémon track for Song of the Day and a certain leaker's subsequent meltdown.
 

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People are actually defending this.

I understand lashing out (although as a Leaker, he should have expected it. And if he didn't like it he should either A) leave or B) don't leak in the first place)

However lashing out doesn't suddenly allow or excuse using slurs like that.
 

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I mean... couldn't that apply to literally ANYTHING related to Minecraft? Like, obviously he can't talk about anything getting revealed there.
i covered this earlier, but why the exact phrasing of "that ONE thing we CAN'T talk about"
and what EXACT thing would that be?
Minecraft movie is dead with nobody on board running it.
Sony crossplay would be revealed for Fortnite first most likely.
Minecraft VR is out and Hololens has had no announcements for years.
it COULD be a Hololens release date if anything, but why phrase it like that when we already know about it to begin with.
that's why something Smash related is possibly likely, it'd be the perfect place to reveal Minecraft content in Smash..
that or it's Minecraft 2..
 
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Who cares how Verg speaks? He has info and I like info. Done. Whats funny is him being a leaker is muddier than anything that could ever come out of his mouth.
 

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People are actually defending this.

I understand lashing out (although as a Leaker, he should have expected it. And if he didn't like it he should either A) leave or B) don't leak in the first place)

However lashing out doesn't suddenly allow or excuse using slurs like that.
No one's defending what he said(Though I myself am autistic and couldn't care less)


But Verg's been getting harassed for no damn reason.
 

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This is more or less what you, and everyone did.



You, along with literally everyone else that had been pinging him nonstop probably pushed him to his wits end.
He entered the leak business, and decided to do such business on GameFAQS. This is his fault, not mine. There would still be a ton of users pinging him constantly even if I was not there.
 

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I'm of the opinion that Minecon probably wouldn't show a character trailer, but I could definitely see them showing off a Minecraft stage there. I doubt they'd do that if Steve was full-on in the game though.
I'm of the opinion that we're getting a stage, not Steve.

Monster Hunter got a stage and a boss because the real star of MH is the monsters. The real star of Minecraft is the world, so it could absolutely be just a level.

I'd prefer Steve himself, TBH, because that's a full-blown Microsoft CHARACTER which is much bigger than just a stage.

Paves the way for Banjo in a big way...
 

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No one's defending what he said(Though I myself am autistic and couldn't care less)


But Verg's been getting harassed for no damn reason.
You sound exactly like the people who defended him on GameFAQS.

And i'll tell you the exact same thing.
Questioning =/= Harassing

There's a reason that the disable mention feature exists, along with the ignore feature.
 

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You sound exactly like the people who defended him on GameFAQS.

And i'll tell you the exact same thing.
Questioning =/= Harassing

There's a reason that the disable mention feature exists, along with the ignore feature.
If he had to disable mentions of him, GameFaqs would probably have no posts left for him to read.
 
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