Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[vaanrose]

Also, to anyone trying to respond to by saying "X character is not used in promotion either" save your breath

If you're just gonna be rude because your "boi" isn't the only "popular"character who gets absolutely no promotion (see: Toon Link)...

If their not giving my boi any attention in promotion leading up to release relative to his actual recognition and influence, why should I (or anyone else for that matter) expect the same in-game, which if the Story Mode trailer is anything to go by, seems to be the case...

They are giving him promotion relative to his actual recognition and influence.

 

[Noipoi]

"Stop worrying over about a fictional character...... even if it's one that influenced your life greatly" You must be fun at parties...

Also, that CSS is only because of the OG 8 theme, which in comparison to them Yoshi is left in the dust still. If the starting characters didn't involve the OG 8, you'd think he'd be a starter?

Yoshi's always a starter, isn't he?
I think he'd still be there.

 

[Will]

"Stop worrying over about a fictional character...... even if it's one that influenced your life greatly" You must be fun at parties...

Well I don't think the rest of us let video game characters shape our entire lives drastically enough to dedicate our existence to them.

 

[Deleted member]

If the starting characters didn't involve the OG 8, you'd think he'd be a starter?

YES.

 

[Potato_]

I missed page 6969 and 7777. Damn.

Something else that just occurred to me with the Square Enix character...what exactly was the method through which Sakurai got in touch with Nomura?

I just looked up the interview with the two of them, and it really seems as though those two discussed the idea. There weren't any higher ups involved in the initial discussion, but just Sakurai and Nomura.

The only reason I mention this is because, well, even if it's Square Enix getting another character, how do we know it's not Sakurai going through Nomura again? If that's the case, then either Neku or Sora might be looking pretty good right about now.

Well, Sora is always going to be probably the BIGGEST pick from Square at this point, but he's also probably the 3rd party with the most substantial hurdles to leap over.

I really do hope the Square Enix character is the one revealed at VGA, not because the wait is killing me but because I think it would simply be absolutely amazing for that event.

"Biggest crossover in gaming history. Oh, by the way, we're adding Sora"

If they do announce a character at the VGA's AND it's the Square rep like Vergeben seems to think (He's specifically stated the Square rep is the first DLC character) then I can't see it not being Sora.

You don't take a stage that big to announce Neku, sadly. You take that stage to announce someone literally EVERYONE watching will recognize.

For Square, the only reps that really reach that level of notoriety are Sora and to a much lesser extent 2B (and that's really only because her design got INCREDIBLY popular for a while).

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yoshi's always a starter, isn't he?
I think he'd still be there.

He's in the original 12, so he's got immunity. The only reason why he'd get passed over in ads in some way would be due to a mix of sheer coincidence and staff ineptitude, and not because they got anything against the character. Also, it's kinda tough to give everyone attention the bigger the cast gets, but that's besides the point.

This reminds me, anyone remember when Sakurai had ambiguous phrasing in regards to Ness being in Smash when talking about Lucas in Brawl? Boy did people worry for nothing then.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

But he's at least higher priority than what's been shown...

im sorry. Did you just claim yoshi was at higher priority?

 

[Shroob]

C'mon website, where's my 10k post cheevo?

 

[Iddis]

Thinking about it and seeing how Nintendo picked the DLC, do you guys think a SE rep in the form of an Octopath Travelers character could be possible considering how well it's doing? Granted it'd be weird to see them be either 3D models or Mr. Game and Watch-esque, at the very least i'm surprised it didn't get a stage, AT, or something of the like.

 

[Kingslime304]

you see this ****?
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There's a reason why god does hate her....
Edit: I think I might get a warning for this...

 

[Will]

C'mon website, where's my 10k post cheevo?

i dont think you get one because i dont think i got one

 

[Double K]

I missed page 6969 and 7777. Damn.



If they do announce a character at the VGA's AND it's the Square rep like Vergeben seems to think (He's specifically stated the Square rep is the first DLC character) then I can't see it not being Sora.

You don't take a stage that big to announce Neku, sadly. You take that stage to announce someone literally EVERYONE watching will recognize.

Literally a saga of Dragon Quest is named for him, his design is referenced everywhere and specifically DQ3 is used as a backdrop for at least 5 mainline games

 

[CannonStreak]

IT's MACHO VYRN

Seems a bit too muscular for someone with a cute monster face, doesn't it?

 

[Idon]

There's a reason why god does hate her....

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God dammit.
delet

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Thinking about it and seeing how Nintendo picked the DLC, do you guys think a SE rep in the form of an Octopath Travelers character could be possible considering how well it's doing? Granted it'd be weird to see them be either 3D models or Mr. Game and Watch-esque, at the very least i'm surprised it didn't get a stage, AT, or something of the like.

I could see that. They would definitely have a better render than the fake Agnes one that was seen earlier.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

On that note, I can't help but think that while Verg, Hitagi and company seem more or less accurate (right up to November 1st), something doesn't add up in what they said recently. I can't put my finger on why. Maybe it's the fact we don't know who the SE and Bamco characters are (if any), yet Minecraft content is somehow easier to find.

I dunno. I don't recall if DLC was leaked this early last time beyond Ryu being known literally a day before his reveal, not months earlier.

As I recall, the Ryu, Roy and Lucas trio were actually datamined months before they were leaked. It was decided to keep it a secret so the fanbase wouldn't get their fun spoiled for them.
I don't have a source for that, though. It's off of memory and I also read it again on this thread a while back.

 

[KiBom]

I'd prefer normal Vyrn.

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He's a pretty cool dragon.

Holy **** why did no one tell me this creature existed. Vyrn please.

 

[Double K]

Seems a bit too muscular for someone with a cute monster face, doesn't it?

He's fed up with being pat to death by Katalina so he burst from the gag comics into the game for a special raid event.

I'm not making this up.

 

[Deleted member]

As long as Sakurai is heading these games, the original 12 are safe. They'd only be in danger if the project lead changed or if Nintendo for some reason forced Sakurai to do something different. Even if there was a Director change, I still doubt the original 12 would be cut. They're too rooted in Smash's core identity at this point, there's absolutely no reason to get rid of any of them.

 

[Idon]

Thinking about it and seeing how Nintendo picked the DLC, do you guys think a SE rep in the form of an Octopath Travelers character could be possible considering how well it's doing? Granted it'd be weird to see them be either 3D models or Mr. Game and Watch-esque, at the very least i'm surprised it didn't get a stage, AT, or something of the like.

Nah, it's far too recent on top of not having a defined main character (unless you wanna do it the koopaling way or just pick Olberic)
I could see Bravely Default maybe?

 

[CannonStreak]

He's fed up with being pat to death by Katalina so he burst from the gag comics into the game for a special raid event.

I'm not making this up.

Um, have a source for that, sir?

 

[NineS]

Lets be real though, if they asked Yoko Taro he'd pause and think of this as the trailer.

Pod 042: Thank you for viewing the Nier: Automata DLC trailer for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, for the Nintendo Switch.

Pod 042: Please be warned, that this trailer may betray your expectations. Do you wish to view this?

[Yes]

Pod 042: The character you want, might not be shown. Knowing this, do you wish to continue?

[Yes]

Pod 042: Very well. Without further ado, we shall reveal the DLC character, for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, for the Nintendo Switch.

Spoiler

He'd be my favorite character.
Hands down.
10/10, please nerf.

 

[Double K]

Um, have a source for that, sir?

It's the April Fools event, Big Bad Shadow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzO17ahkvAw

 

[Iddis]

Nah, it's far too recent on top of not having a defined main character (unless you wanna do it the koopaling way or just pick Olberic)
I could see Bravely Default maybe?

Out of 8 characters if they picked the one swordsman I think I would lose it. lol

I could also see that^^

 

[Shroob]

Um, have a source for that, sir?

I play the game.

The April Fools Day event literally has the gag manga world and the real game world cross over.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

As long as Sakurai is heading these games, the original 12 are safe. They'd only be in danger if the project lead changed or if Nintendo for some reason forced Sakurai to do something different. Even if there was a Director change, I still doubt the original 12 would be cut. They're too rooted in Smash's core identity at this point, there's absolutely no reason to get rid of any of them.

Kumazaki could be the best candidate for that, seeing how much he pours into his Kirby games. Wouldn't be shocked to see some "character bias" occur if he is picked, as well.

Besides, cutting Falcon would eliminate the only dignity his series has at this point, and that's no good.

As I recall, the Ryu, Roy and Lucas trio were actually datamined months before they were leaked. It was decided to keep it a secret so the fanbase wouldn't get their fun spoiled for them.
I don't have a source for that, though. It's off of memory and I also read it again on this thread a while back.

So the difference is that there's no datamining here, mostly just hearsay. We have really no way of knowing when or if the leakers are right anytime soon, that's annoying. Eh well, at least we can play games in the meantime.

 

[LetterO]

I missed page 6969 and 7777. Damn.



If they do announce a character at the VGA's AND it's the Square rep like Vergeben seems to think (He's specifically stated the Square rep is the first DLC character) then I can't see it not being Sora.

You don't take a stage that big to announce Neku, sadly. You take that stage to announce someone literally EVERYONE watching will recognize.

For Square, the only reps that really reach that level of notoriety are Sora and to a much lesser extent 2B (and that's really only because her design got INCREDIBLY popular for a while).

They could also announce a Bethesda character. That's big enough for something like the Game Awards as well.

 

[Deleted member]

As long as Sakurai is heading these games, the original 12 are safe. They'd only be in danger if the project lead changed or if Nintendo for some reason forced Sakurai to do something different. Even if there was a Director change, I still doubt the original 12 would be cut. They're too rooted in Smash's core identity at this point, there's absolutely no reason to get rid of any of them.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Yoshi has been on the verge of being cut since Brawl.

 

[zabimaru1000]

Something else that just occurred to me with the Square Enix character...what exactly was the method through which Sakurai got in touch with Nomura?

I just looked up the interview with the two of them, and it really seems as though those two discussed the idea. There weren't any higher ups involved in the initial discussion, but just Sakurai and Nomura.

The only reason I mention this is because, well, even if it's Square Enix getting another character, how do we know it's not Sakurai going through Nomura again? If that's the case, then either Neku or Sora might be looking pretty good right about now.

Well, Sora is always going to be probably the BIGGEST pick from Square at this point, but he's also probably the 3rd party with the most substantial hurdles to leap over.

I really do hope the Square Enix character is the one revealed at VGA, not because the wait is killing me but because I think it would simply be absolutely amazing for that event.

"Biggest crossover in gaming history. Oh, by the way, we're adding Sora"

It's kind of a moot point if Nintendo are the ones providing the characters for Sakurai to pick. I wanted Sora for a really long time since Brawl, but I'm not optimistic about his chances at this point.

 

[Double K]

He'd be my favorite character.
Hands down.
10/10, please nerf.

meanwhile, Yoko Taro

Spoiler

 

[Roberk]

Idk if y'all want some actual Ultimate content or not, but Alm's theme (March to Deliverance) is in. https://youtu.be/qyc_KZxT9T0?t=6

Spoiler

 

[CannonStreak]

It's the April Fools event, Big Bad Shadow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzO17ahkvAw

I play the game.

The April Fools Day event literally has the gag manga world and the real game world cross over.

Oh, I get it now. Thanks for the heads up.

He wouldn't talk in a strong, caveman voice if he talked at all, right, because I can imagine him saying something like "Macho Vyrn squash puny electric mouse!" if he were in Smash Bros Ultimate.

 

[Double K]

Oh, I get it now. Thanks for the heads up.

He wouldn't talk in a strong, caveman voice if he talked at all, right, because I can imagine him saying something like "Macho Vyrn squash puny electric mouse!" if he were in Smash Bros Ultimate.

Nah, Vyrn, even in the gag event has his usual country accent and high-pitched voice (as expected of Rie Kugimiya!)

 

[Will]

Idk if y'all want some actual Ultimate content or not, but Alm's theme (March to Deliverance) is in. https://youtu.be/qyc_KZxT9T0?t=6

Spoiler

You showed up [i didnt keep count] days late.

 

[KMDP]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Yoshi has been on the verge of being cut since Brawl.

I thought that was Jigglypuff.

 

[CannonStreak]

Nah, Vyrn, even in the gag event has his usual country accent and high-pitched voice (as expected of Rie Kugimiya!)

I see. To me, it would kinda be funny if he talked like that, not in his own game, but in Smash. But hey, I haven't played the game, so what do I know?

 

[Deleted member]

Since this is Smash-related, THE SERIES IS until ultimate drops NOW COMPLETE.

MADLAD HAS DONE IT.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Thinking about it and seeing how Nintendo picked the DLC, do you guys think a SE rep in the form of an Octopath Travelers character could be possible considering how well it's doing? Granted it'd be weird to see them be either 3D models or Mr. Game and Watch-esque, at the very least i'm surprised it didn't get a stage, AT, or something of the like.

I ****ing hope so. Cyrus would be lit

 

[Noipoi]

Since this is Smash-related, THE SERIES IS until ultimate drops NOW COMPLETE.

MADLAD HAS DONE IT.

Just in time for Ultimate!
If you'll excuse me, I've got some time to waste.

 

[Potato_]

Literally a saga of Dragon Quest is named for him, his design is referenced everywhere and specifically DQ3 is used as a backdrop for at least 5 mainline games

is that Erdrick I'm sorry I don't know Dragon Quest like at ALL

I do think a Dragon Quest rep is possible but I don't know how likely he is. It's no doubt a giant in Japan and does have some outside recognition and fame.

They could also announce a Bethesda character. That's big enough for something like the Game Awards as well.

It is, but I'm specifically saying if Vergeben's claims about Square being first are true.