Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Sans is Kakyoin confirmud!!1

Literally who?
I won't be able to read your response until tomorrow lol
Goodbye new friends Zinith and @faygoshill see you tomorrow

 

[Royalty1702]

Yeah but he's not that different.. Say a Goomba stack. Still a Goomba.

Find me multiple B. Dees on screen acting as Goomba stacks. I'll wait.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Unrelated to topics at hand. But how would Classic Mode work for DLC fighters? Will they get their own classic mode sets, or will they just all be given the same generic sort of random quest?

 

[Deleted member]

Unrelated to topics at hand. But how would Classic Mode work for DLC fighters? Will they get their own classic mode sets, or will they just all be given the same generic sort of random quest?

They'll get their own sets, I hope!

 

[Deleted member]

Smash's not missing a puzzle piece.
Really, I don't know. Is it a 1st party war between fans? each looking to insert MORE of his/her favorite franch? Reallu, is that it? cause I don't see how necessary he is!
Marx could work as a boss. Adeleine would go better, at least she offers something new.

No character in Smash is "necessary".

People want him because they like him. Also Bandana Dee uses a spear, he'd offer plenty.

 

[FalcoXP]

Literally who?
I won't be able to read your response until tomorrow lol
Goodbye new friends Zinith and @faygoshill see you tomorrow

Jojo char that happens to be a Milf Hunter.

See ya, dude

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Maybe I missed the part of anatomy where the human skeleton had a BONE-NOSE.

A BOSE.

I mean, the guy and New Donk humans look completely different. Mario's world is a strange, strange place.

Goomba with a hat arguement? Seriously?

**** it ill just post two images back to back and be done

I seriously wonder how long it'll take before people's preconceived notions of who can make it in are completely shattered into tiny little pieces.

 

[WaddleMatt]

Smash's not missing a puzzle piece.
Really, I don't know. Is it a 1st party war between fans? each looking to insert MORE of his/her favorite franch? Reallu, is that it? cause I don't see how necessary he is!
Marx could work as a boss. Adeleine would go better, at least she offers something new.

Are you seriously saying a spear wielder does not offer anything new to the table? How can people argue against Dee at this point? He is such a prominent character in the Kirby series with an absolutely huge fanbase and offers a new weapon and playstyle to boot.

 

[SonicMario]

Kinda, but instead of selecting individual moves, you select one out of three sets of specials for each Mii

Uh...

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Jury's still out on that.
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Video game logic at its finest.

 

[GoeGoe]

Fam,
It's not about how a certain character looks. It's about the role that character plays in a franchise.

Is he as important to the franch as Meta or DDD? Don't get me wrong, to me he always seemed like that sidekick no one asked for.

 

[KingofKoopas]

I mean, the guy and New Donk humans look completely different. Mario's world is a strange, strange place.



I seriously wonder how long it'll take before people's preconceived notions of who can make it in are completely shattered into tiny little pieces.

A goomba with a hat will be added to smash and we'll STILL be having these arguements..
and i know the new donk stuff wasnt me youre replying to buuuuut

 

[BlondeLombax]

No character in Smash is "necessary".

People want him because they like him. Also Bandana Dee uses a spear, he'd offer plenty.

A parasol, too. I'm amazed nobody ever brings that up.

 

[Deleted member]

No character in Smash is "necessary".

THIS. People are so annoying when they act like Smash "needs" a character or when they talk about how a character "deserves" to be in or not

like, ***** a mother****in PIRANHA PLANT is in nothing matters anymore. let people pine for whoever they want. there are no rules now.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

Kinda, but instead of selecting individual moves, you select one out of three sets of specials for each Mii

YES! I even called it, like three months ago! Maybe even longer!
I'm glad I was right.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Is he as important to the franch as Meta or DDD? Don't get me wrong, to me he always seemed like that sidekick no one asked for.

That argument can be used against many wanted characters

Heck, it might even be used against your most wanted character

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Are you seriously saying a spear wielder does not offer anything new to the table? How can people argue against Dee at this point? He is such a prominent character in the Kirby series with an absolutely huge fanbase and offers a new weapon and playstyle to boot.

He also could have species traits in his arsenal, calling his friends to make a boulder, a parasol as a shield/normal attack, an Earth-splitting punch. It's not rocket science.

 

[osby]

Unrelated to topics at hand. But how would Classic Mode work for DLC fighters? Will they get their own classic mode sets, or will they just all be given the same generic sort of random quest?

I'm sure they'll get their own. How hard it can be to patch them in?

 

[WaddleMatt]

Is he as important to the franch as Meta or DDD? Don't get me wrong, to me he always seemed like that sidekick no one asked for.

When are characters asked for?? The developers just included him and we grew to love them, just like any other character...

And yea historically he may not be as important but presently he is just as important most definitley.

 

[Royalty1702]

Smash's not missing a puzzle piece.
Really, I don't know. Is it a 1st party war between fans? each looking to insert MORE of his/her favorite franch? Reallu, is that it? cause I don't see how necessary he is!
Marx could work as a boss. Adeleine would go better, at least she offers something new.

Bandana Dee wields a spear and a parasol (weapons literally no other characters wield except Peach but that's her up special).

 

[BlondeLombax]

I seriously wonder how long it'll take before people's preconceived notions of who can make it in are completely shattered into tiny little pieces.

The most likely chance for this to happen is for an Assist Trophy to be promoted to playable, which, judging by Chrom's mere existence and the support bases of many, doesn't seem too far off to me.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Disliking a character is fine and all and admitting it is nothing to feel guilty about

Just don't come up with these bull**** and hypocritical reasons for why a character shouldn't or won't be in

 

[GoeGoe]

No, no, you're not understanding.

He is part of a species that are used as mooks, but he himself is not one. He has had dozens of playable and supporting roles and is as important to the series as Meta Knight and Dedede for supporting cast. He is used in almost all of Kirby's marketing material. He has a personality and everything.

Calling him a hat Goomba is like calling Luigi Green Mario and actually meaning it.

EDIT: ARRRGH, My tablet's autocorrect is being dumb. I meant to type Dedede, not "delete", lol.
EDIT 2: Why did it write mercy, lol okay my tablet seems to have a mind of its own now.

Ok I getchya. So has he ever had a critical role in any of the main games story. Like, if it wasn't for him it would've ended. Or are those kept for Kirby, Meta and DDD?

 

[Jiggly]

Is he as important to the franch as Meta or DDD? Don't get me wrong, to me he always seemed like that sidekick no one asked for.

He's been a prominent main character in the recent Kirby titles, arguably even more than MK. He's also the only Kirby character to ever get any real character development, starting out as a super ****ty DDD sidekick that eventually trained and got stronger to the point where he is able to fight by Kirby's side and not get carried. He also got his own song in which he sings about his ambitions of trying to get stronger than Kirby and how he doesn't want to be weak anymore. He's actually quite the endearing character that's definitely grown and has earned his spot in smash at this point.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Ok I getchya. So has he ever had a critical role in any of the main games story. Like, if it wasn't for him it would've ended. Or are those kept for Kirby, Meta and DDD?

Isn't Meta Knight just a kirby in a mask? Masks being sort of like hats for your face...

META KNIGHT DECONFIRMED!

 

[Deleted member]

Uh...

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Someone corrected me earlier. Thank you for the screens though!

 

[WaddleMatt]

Ok I getchya. So has he ever had a critical role in any of the main games story. Like, if it wasn't for him it would've ended. Or are those kept for Kirby, Meta and DDD?

Well he appeared along side Kirby in Rainbow Curse and MK and Dedede were completley absent so I would say yes.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok I getchya. So has he ever had a critical role in any of the main games story. Like, if it wasn't for him it would've ended. Or are those kept for Kirby, Meta and DDD?

He and Kirby both are the main heroes of Rainbow Curse and Battle Royal, with Bandana Dee having a speaking role in the later.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

The most likely chance for this to happen is for an Assist Trophy to be promoted to playable, which, judging by Chrom's mere existence and the support bases of many, doesn't seem too far off to me.

I wouldn't be shocked if what you mention happens by Smash 6, honestly.

Personally, I think it'll happen when characters from dead third party series show up as playable, on a retro character basis.

 

[staindgrey]

Juryi's still out on that.

You rang...?

 

[Royalty1702]

Ok I getchya. So has he ever had a critical role in any of the main games story. Like, if it wasn't for him it would've ended. Or are those kept for Kirby, Meta and DDD?

If you count Rainbow Curse as a main game, he was the one who protected Kirby and the paintbrush who's name I've forgotten in the intro and is the entire reason they are allowed to even continue the quest.

 

[sdpdude9]

Not sure if this has been posted, but very good in depth look at World of Light trailer. Very long but so worth it if you want to learn more. Got me much more excited about the mode than the direct did. Seems like it will be a challenge to unlock all characters, which I want.

 

[GoeGoe]

No character in Smash is "necessary".
People want him because they like him. Also Bandana Dee uses a spear, he'd offer plenty.

Really!? then how would the game be established?
Of course you have to like something to want it!!
To be completely honest, I don't see that unique enough, sorry.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Really!? then how would the game be established?
Of course you have to like something to want it!!
To be completely honest, I don't see that unique enough, sorry.

Oh for the love of god

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

Is he as important to the franch as Meta or DDD? Don't get me wrong, to me he always seemed like that sidekick no one asked for.

*sigh*

Guess I gotta do it to 'em.

Bandana Dee first appeared in Super Star as the first opponent of Megaton Punch. A very small role, but a very early start nonetheless.

Following this, Bandana Dee received an upgrade in Super Star Ultra, where he gained a speaking role as Dedede's right-hand-man. He also was present as the only audience member during the Masked Dedede fight.

Bandana Dee's role really starts to take off in the period after Super Smash Bros Brawl. Keep in mind that since Brawl, Bandana Dee has actually had more appearances than Meta Knight. Yes, he's that important.

Bandana Dee's first playable role was in Return to Dreamland. He immediately sets himself apart from other Waddle Dees as the only one capable of wielding the Spear moveset. In addition, he appears in all of the cutscenes and is viewed as part of the core cast of 4 characters.

Following this, Bandana Dee took a support role in both Kirby: Triple Deluxe and Kirby: Planet Robobot.

Between these two titles, Bandana Dee had another playable role in Kirby and the Rainbow Curse. In this game, Bandana Dee is the ONLY playable character other than Kirby, putting much more of a spotlight on him.

Then we come to the 3DS e-shop titles, Clash Deluxe and Battle Royale. In one, Bandana Dee has another speaking role as a voice of friendly advice in the hub. In the other, Bandana Dee has a speaking role, AND is your in-game partner. He is cemented as Kirby's best friend and gains his own distinctly-colored parasol in addition to his Spear, which he is still the only user of.

Cut to Star Allies, where Bandana Dee is the ONLY Dream Friend available at the start of the game, essentially the de-facto Player 2 character. In addition to this, with the removal of the Spear ability, Bandana Dee's moveset is now entirely unique to the cast. In one of the extra Puzzles that can be assembled, Kirby and Bandana Dee take center stage at the Fountain of Dreams, while Meta Knight and King Dedede are relegated to the background.

Combine all of this with Bandana Dee constantly appearing in group shots with the other 3 core cast members, and it's inarguable that he's distinguished himself as a core member of the cast with his own unique skillset and personality.

Find me a Goomba that does that.

 

[Deleted member]

Really!? then how would the game be established?
Of course you have to like something to want it!!
To be completely honest, I don't see that unique enough, sorry.

a piranha plant is literally in the game
a random mook
who's not even the most iconic enemy from its series
who doesn't seem like it would be able to have any SEMBLANCE of an actual moveset
is playable in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch


There are no rules anymore, buddy. To hell with unique-ness

 

[Deleted member]

Assuming DLC is strictly 3rd parties, here’s who I’m hoping for:
Erdrick
Ryu Hayabusa
Dante
Lloyd Irving
Doomguy

 

[WaddleMatt]

Really!? then how would the game be established?
Of course you have to like something to want it!!
To be completely honest, I don't see that unique enough, sorry.

For Dee's sake your profile says you are a piranha plant main.

 

[GoeGoe]

Are you seriously saying a spear wielder does not offer anything new to the table? How can people argue against Dee at this point? He is such a prominent character in the Kirby series with an absolutely huge fanbase and offers a new weapon and playstyle to boot.

Because it's a spear, that's not so out of the box. When Fox was first introduced (64), I won't say his laser gun was unique. His reflector was. Get what I'm trying to say here?

 

[staindgrey]

No character in Smash is "necessary".

I've been arguing this for years. Mario's had his time. Let Angry Bird have his moment to shine!