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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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KMDP

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Are you implying Super Paper Mario isn't a good game...

...because if you are you and me are gonna have to have a little chat.
Sic Mr. Flibble on 'em, MamaLuigi.

By the way, CyberHyperPhoenix CyberHyperPhoenix , can I just say I appreciate your use of Caulifla in your avatar? The way people reacted to her and Kale, anyone would have thought they were the worst things ever to happen to Dragon Ball.
 
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Are you implying Super Paper Mario isn't a good game...

...because if you are you and me are gonna have to have a little chat.
I think Super Paper Mario and Metroid Prime 3 are very good bedfellows, disregarding the gameplay shift.

Great follow-ups to two incredible games that can't help but fall a little short in comparison to them, but only because the first two are that good.

That said, if Prime 4 is Sticker Star I'm going to start digging my grave now.
 
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I think Super Paper Mario and Prime 3 are very good bedfellows, disregarding the gameplay shift.

Great follow-ups to two incredible games that can't help but fall a little short in comparison to them.
I think SPM is on equal footing with TTYD to me, even though the latter edges out due to having this:

 

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Sic Mr. Flibble on 'em, MamaLuigi.

By the way, CyberHyperPhoenix CyberHyperPhoenix , can I just say I appreciate your use of Caulifla in your avatar? The way people reacted to her and Kale, anyone would have thought they were the worst things ever to happen to Dragon Ball.
Is that Caulifla? I always thought it was Yaoyorozu from My Hero Academia.
 

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Is that Caulifla? I always thought it was Yaoyorozu from My Hero Academia.
It's Caulifla, Yaoyorozu doesn't wear a purple tube top. Also Caulifla's hair is pretty distinct (though Yaomomo's hair does look similar in her Bakugou Rescue Civilian Disguise).
 
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Putting aside my usual bad habit of not specifying enough in everything I say, something interesting came up.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...etroid_prime_4_development_is_proceeding_well

This may not mean much, but given that there's been hearsay that Sylux may return in Prime 4, and that the game is under development, he might get a chance to show up in Smash to promote Prime 4. That is, assuming Sakurai was/is shown dev materials at some point.

Random reactions

Shadow- What have you done? *Edgy music plays* WHAT HAVE YOU DONNNNNNNNNE?

Steve- Whew, um alright

Rabbids- Okay Alright that's fine, I can dig it

Rayman- Had me sweating thank heavens

Spyro- What, omg, when, that's amazing.

Banjo & Kazooie- WOW hell yeah

Yooka Laylee- Why have you forsaken me?

Meat Boy- I was a fool

Issac from the binding of Isaac- The elders warned me and I laughed at them, now I am the one who is frightened...
Might as well do a few ones too.

Shantae: YES! I KNEW IT! SHE ISN'T TOO LEWD FOR SMASH! YES!
Shovel Knight: OH YES! FOR SHOVELRY!
Quote: Well, Nicalis must have practically lent him for a song.
Spyro: YES! Japan CAN actually try to do him justice this time.
Rayman: Yes, finally, my French childhood hero is here.
Star Man: A winner is me!

The Underworld level and the one before where the world just ceases to exist was so dark
There's never been a breather level that could be so depressing (aside maybe a certain chapter in Mother 3).
 

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So, I'm curious. What would everyone here think if we got Slippy as a playable character? I know his chances aren't the greatest, but I'm curious to see how many here would like him, or at least be okay with him, rather than hate him. He's got a lot of potential.

Made a moveset for him a while back if anyone needs help envisioning how he might play as.
 

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Another "leak." They're learning and piggybacking off of each other.
My thoughts:
>"The Echo fighters are Shadow, Dark Samus, and Chrom...Shadows slower than Sonic"
>G E N G A R
 
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Another "leak." They're learning and piggybacking off of each other.
My thoughts:
>"The Echo fighters are Shadow, Dark Samus, and Chrom...Shadows slower than Sonic"
>G E N G A R
"Chrom is Ike with tippers."

Yes because Chrom's definitely the kind of guy who would require precision to use. Totally.
 

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Some random though I had, but I’m starting to feel worried about the newcomer lineup.

In my opinion, when I first started speculating on this new game I was really interested in what curveball characters that can pop up, the possibilities of IPS that can get revitalized, and anything new and enticing to get in with the roster.

Although they haven’t really showed anything yet, the only thing that is tossed around is fanservice, fanservice, and more fanservice. Yes this game is taking feedback from the things people didn’t like about Smash 4 which is great! However, I don’t want to the newcomer lineup to be just characters from the ballot. I want to see more wacky and unique characters Sakurai can create from Nintendo’s vast library that wouldn’t have been noticed by people to begin with.

So far I have enjoyed many of Sakurai’s curveball characters, but if the newcomers are only going fanservice characters, then I’d feel that Sakurai didn’t really he had the freedom he had when it came to the roster than in previous games. Like he’s chained to OBEY what the fans want and what the fans say. Yes, it’s great to see characters that people have been asking for a long time, but I also want to see what unique concepts and characters Sakurai can put out for us as well that wouldn’t have gotten in if it weren’t for him. A lot of his oddball choices became staples and fan favorites and I also want to see some of that for this game too, since chances are, they defenitley aren’t going to have oddball choices as DLC.
 
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What's ironic is that Wario says wah all the time too yet nobody seems to mind it with him.


Ah. It's been forever since I played Super Star lol.
Wario is a pimp...and all pimps can do whatever they want
 

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I'm gonna bump this little game I had because I want to see some answers:

I have an idea. Since Echo Fighters are effectively the same as other characters other than personality, I want to focus on taunts.

Think of a potential Echo Fighter and think of the 3 taunts for him/her.

I'll give it a go for
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Up: He faces the screen, lowers his glasses provocatively, grins and does the eyebrow wink
Side: He stretches his legs in reference to the Yoshi race in SMRPG
Down: He wiggles his tail/booty towards the screen similar to Wario's booty shake.
Also thanks to MoonlitIllusion MoonlitIllusion I decided to add victory animations to that:

1. He Egg Rolls into view and breaks out in a presenting pose like Dedede's crouch.
2. He licks his lips while staring at you menacingly.
3. To parallel Yoshi, he mimics the fighting pose of another famous video game fighting character, like Heihachi
 

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It’s crazy to look back at Melee and then look at the Ultimate trailer. Like the graphics have come such a long way.

And the Ultimate trailer had like 66 characters. Wild when you think about it
Not as big as comparing anything to Smash 64. Still impressive though.
Since when has being too lewd stopped a character from getting in the roster :ultbayonetta:
The thing here is, one gal shows cleavage 24/7, and the other usually doesn't (hair manipulation notwithstanding).
 

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So if Chrom was an echo of Ike, what properties would he have to differentiate him? In the GameXplain interview with Bill Trinen and some other Nintendo representative, they said that an Echo must borrow weight, speed, animations, and other things to really be an "echo" (Probably includes jump height, fall speed too).

What would they change about Chrom? Just knockback angles and some minor visual stuff, sort of like what it appears Daisy is getting?
 

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These flood of rumors is really starting to get annoying. And it's the same pool of characters too.

There's like what, 10 fake rumors everyday now? With only one slight difference.
 

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These flood of rumors is really starting to get annoying. And it's the same pool of characters too.

There's like what, 10 fake rumors everyday now? With only one slight difference.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It is what it is. It's important that they are logged and noted because one of them might be the next Gematsu. We'll never know.

But it'd be nice if they stopped for a day or two. We're at around 85 different leaks and it hasn't even been a month.

I'm guessing we'll have at least 300 different leaks by release. I'd guess 400-500 liberally.
 
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"Chrom is Ike with tippers."

Yes because Chrom's definitely the kind of guy who would require precision to use. Totally.
True...besides, Chrom can’t even handle being punched in the face by his love
 

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Okay, so, can someone explain something to me?

No one wants a new Fire Emblem Rep on the roster. i.e. Celica or even a Three Houses Rep later on as DLC...but

Everyone is gunning for Chrom to be an Echo Fighter....which would be another Fire Emblem Rep...and another Fire Emblem Rep that’s an Echo at that.

I.

Don’t.

Understand.
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You know what I want to see for online play? A ranking system, but mind what I say here. We could have rankings assigned to players with victories achieved, or perhaps specific levels like in Splatoon maybe. I can see problems, like players getting victories for nothing being able to reach top players easily, but I do feel that this should at least be given a chance.
 

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Okay, so, can someone explain something to me?

No one wants a new Fire Emblem Rep on the roster. i.e. Celica or even a Three Houses Rep later on as DLC...but

Everyone is gunning for Chrom to be an Echo Fighter....which would be another Fire Emblem Rep...and another Fire Emblem Rep that’s an Echo at that.

I.

Don’t.

Understand.
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Chrom was the most highly requested FE character prior to Smash 4, before the over-saturation
 

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Well, you see what happened to Samus' boobs and Snake's butt, they both got shrunken despite the fact that neither show any skin. I'm honestly not sure if they'd be lenient with her.
I mean if they REALLY wanted to they could have her wear the black jacket from Shantae and the Pirate's Curse.

Not like we don't have human characters showing some skin already (:ultzss:'s alts).
 

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Okay, so, can someone explain something to me?

No one wants a new Fire Emblem Rep on the roster. i.e. Celica or even a Three Houses Rep later on as DLC...but

Everyone is gunning for Chrom to be an Echo Fighter....which would be another Fire Emblem Rep...and another Fire Emblem Rep that’s an Echo at that.

I.

Don’t.

Understand.
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Not everyone is gunning for Chrom though...his chances just so happen to be rising due to the echo situation (now that Lyn is deconfirmed, Celica is still on top. At best he’s the 2nd or 3rd most anticipated FE rep for now
 

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Okay, so, can someone explain something to me?

No one wants a new Fire Emblem Rep on the roster. i.e. Celica or even a Three Houses Rep later on as DLC...but

Everyone is gunning for Chrom to be an Echo Fighter....which would be another Fire Emblem Rep...and another Fire Emblem Rep that’s an Echo at that.

I.

Don’t.

Understand.
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Chrom was expected in the previous game; now is kind of wanted because of how Robin's trailer and Robin's Palutena Guidance treated him
 

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Okay, so, can someone explain something to me?

No one wants a new Fire Emblem Rep on the roster. i.e. Celica or even a Three Houses Rep later on as DLC...but

Everyone is gunning for Chrom to be an Echo Fighter....which would be another Fire Emblem Rep...and another Fire Emblem Rep that’s an Echo at that.

I.

Don’t.

Understand.
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And then there's me, who wants both Chrom and Celica, while not minding if Edelgard gets in as DLC. :p

So if Chrom was an echo of Ike, what properties would he have to differentiate him? In the GameXplain interview with Bill Trinen and some other Nintendo representative, they said that an Echo must borrow weight, speed, animations, and other things to really be an "echo" (Probably includes jump height, fall speed too).

What would they change about Chrom? Just knockback angles and some minor visual stuff, sort of like what it appears Daisy is getting?
White fire for Eruption to reference the Awakening Rite. Rename Eruption to Awakening.
Quick Draw goes through opponents now. Renamed Luna.
Potentially angled descent on Aether, but I don't know if that'd be too big of a difference.
Frederick pair-up for Final Smash.

I'd expect something like that as a minimum thing.
 

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Okay, so, can someone explain something to me?

No one wants a new Fire Emblem Rep on the roster. i.e. Celica or even a Three Houses Rep later on as DLC...but

Everyone is gunning for Chrom to be an Echo Fighter....which would be another Fire Emblem Rep...and another Fire Emblem Rep that’s an Echo at that.

I.

Don’t.

Understand.
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It's because Chrom would be an Echo Fighter, which require minimal effort to include. No real effort would go into his inclusion, so therefore he wouldn't "take up a slot" on the roster.
 

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Chrom was the most highly requested FE character prior to Smash 4, before the over-saturation
That was years ago. An entirely new Fire Emblem game has been released with a new one on the horizon. We already have 2 characters from Awakening.

I just don’t understand it. If I mention Three Houses as DLC, I’ll get told there’s no way, and that Fire Emblem already has too much, but then in the same breathe, those people want Chrom.
 

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So, here's a question.

Do you think there will be more third parties and if so, why were there no third parties revealed at E3?
 

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Here's a reboot roster for ya!
Super Bash Sisters

:ultpeach::ultdaisy::ultrosalina::ultzelda::ultsheik::ultsamus::ultzss::ultlucina::ultrobin(F):ultcorrin:(F):ultpalutena::ultwiifittrainer:(F):ultpokemontrainer:(F):ultpikachu:(F):ultjigglypuff::ultbayonetta::ultinkling:(F)
Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong Country)
Krystal (Star Fox)
Gardevoir (Pokémon)
Lyn (Fire Emblem)
Celica (Fire Emblem)
Ashley (Wario)
Captain Syrup (Wario)
Isabelle (replaces :ultvillager:)
Meryl Silverburgh (replaces :ultsnake:)
Amy Rose (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Rouge the Bat (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Cream the Rabbit (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Blaze the Cat (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Roll (replaces :ultmegaman:)
Terra Branford (Final Fantasy)
Tifa Lockhart (Final Fantasy)
Yuna (Final Fantasy)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Chun Li (Street Fighter)
Cammy (Street Fighter)
R. Mika (Street Fighter)
Kasumi (Dead or Alive)
Ayane (Dead or Alive)
Helena Douglas (Dead or Alive)
Tina Armstrong (Dead or Alive)
Hitomi (Dead or Alive)
Honoka (Dead or Alive)
Sophitia (Soul Calibur)
Ivy (Soul Calibur)
Taki (Soul Calibur)
Mai Shiranui (King of Fighters)
Asuka (Senran Kagura)
Homura (Senran Kagura)
Shantae

Now, the most important question, would you buy this game? Would you play this game? Would you love this game?
 
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So if Chrom was an echo of Ike, what properties would he have to differentiate him? In the GameXplain interview with Bill Trinen and some other Nintendo representative, they said that an Echo must borrow weight, speed, animations, and other things to really be an "echo" (Probably includes jump height, fall speed too).

What would they change about Chrom? Just knockback angles and some minor visual stuff, sort of like what it appears Daisy is getting?
daisy is a much better idea for an echo. peach as a character has so many aspects to her kit that changing some of them can make a very different character for example if daisy fair is a combo move instead of a kill move and she floats faster forward than backward that's a very different character to peach already
 

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So, I'm curious. What would everyone here think if we got Slippy as a playable character? I know his chances aren't the greatest, but I'm curious to see how many here would like him, or at least be okay with him, rather than hate him. He's got a lot of potential.

Made a moveset for him a while back if anyone needs help envisioning how he might play as.
Personally, I would love to see Slippy in Smash. The Star Fox roster feels incomplete without him, and he's got a ton of potential. He's my favorite character from the series as well.

Also I really love your moveset. It's very unique and does a fantastic job of representing Slippy's personality and abilities. Well done!
 

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There has to be a Nintendo Direct in July for 3ds games right? WarioWare Gold drops the beginning of August and there’s been like no advertising

Maybe a character reveal then?
No advertising is an understatement. I didn't even know about it until last week.
 
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