Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Momotsuki]

I'm thinking of picking up Bowser Jr. as a secondary. Specifically Iggy. I love how bouncy him and his kit feel!

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If Super Smash Bros. vs. Jump Stars was an actual game. Who'd be your mains from both sides?

Mine would be King K. Rool and Izuku Midoriya.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

How about Nintendo vs. NetherRealm?

Spoiler

What do you mean you "don't wanna see Nintendo characters perform fatalities?"

If it's anything like Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe, the fatalities wouldn't even be that good...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Mortal Kombat needs to crossover with Killer Instinct anyways and what it should had been in the first place rather then DC.

 

[Momotsuki]

Anybody have any tips for playing Isabelle BTW? She was by far my most hype newcomer and I WANT to main her so badly, but at the moment I just don't get her. I mean actual tips by the way, not "LOL fishing rod ecks dee I'm totally original and have something meaningful to say hur hur!".

 

[Idon]

Nintendo vs. Capcom would be boring since i'll only care for the capcom side

But then I can finally have my dream DMC x FE battle of Ike vs Nero.

 

[Deleted member]

Ideal Nintendo v Capcom Roster

Mario
Bowser
Kirby
Meta Knight
Link
Zelda
Yoshi
Rosalina and Luma
Phirana Plant
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
King K Rool
Bayonetta
Spring Man
Inkling
Diddy Kong
Sulk
Elma
Marth
Samus
Ridley
Zero Suit
Isaac
King Dedede
Mr. Game And Watch
Pit
Palutena
Rex and Pyra
Captain Falcon
Ness
Pikachu
Charizard
Mewtwo
Isabelle
Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Jedah Dohma
Mike Haggar
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Ryu
Ken
Mega Man
M. Bison
Nemesis

 

[Knight Dude]

You know what, here's something I never ****ing see. If your most wanted from an unrepresented franchise gets in, what Spirit battles would you expect to see added? My case is Dante so....
Vergil: Blue Dante with a Killing Edge, increased sword strikes
Trish: Bayonetta with a Death Scythe
Lady: Zero Suit with a Super Scope, neutral B gets buffed alongside her Super Scope.
Sparda: Ganondorf, increased physical attack

Neat ideas.

I'm trying to think who could Nero be. Maybe Blue Roy with a gun in place of Blue Rose? Or a Mega Man with Killing Edge(with the crits working sort of like Red Queen's EX moves, and Nero using a Mega Buster in DMCV)

V could be Robin with Falco, Icineroar and a Giant DK.

Agni and Rudra should be Red Roy and Green Meta Knight I think.

 

[Idon]

Ideal Nintendo v Capcom Roster

Mario
Bowser
Kirby
Meta Knight
Link
Zelda
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
King K Rool
Bayonetta
Spring Man
Inkling
Diddy Kong
Sulk
Elma
Samus
Ridley
Zero Suit
Isaac
King Dedede
Mr. Game And Watch
Pit
Palutena
Rex and Pyra
Captain Falcon
Ness
Pikachu
Charizard
Mewtwo
Isabelle
Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Jedah Dohma
Mike Haggar
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Ryu
Ken
Mega Man
M. Bison
Nemesis

That Capcom roster kinda sucks.
This entire roster's imbalanced as hell.

 

[PeridotGX]

Ideal Nintendo v Capcom Roster

Mario
Bowser
Kirby
Meta Knight
Link
Zelda
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
King K Rool
Bayonetta
Spring Man
Inkling
Diddy Kong
Sulk
Elma
Samus
Ridley
Zero Suit
Isaac
King Dedede
Mr. Game And Watch
Pit
Palutena
Rex and Pyra
Captain Falcon
Ness
Pikachu
Charizard
Mewtwo
Isabelle
Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Jedah Dohma
Mike Haggar
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Ryu
Ken
Mega Man
M. Bison
Nemesis

I'm confused. You have Zero suit Samus and Palutena, but not Luigi, Yoshi, or Peach.

what.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Nintendo vs Marvel would be more fun honestly.

 

[Deleted member]

That Capcom roster kinda sucks.
This entire roster's imbalanced as hell.

Capcom has a somewhat limited palette. I didnt want to add too many Mega Man or Street Fighter characters, and theres no one on the Nintendo side that I would cut.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

What if Nintendo made a crossover fighting game with all of their different franchises?

Wait...

 

[Deleted member]

I'm confused. You have Zero suit Samus and Palutena, but not Luigi or Peach.

what.

Bruh, I forgot Luigi. Peach was kind of a sacrifice, I didnt want TOO many Nintendo guys. Palutena and ZSS seem to fit nicely.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

Bruh, I forgot Luigi. Peach was kind of a sacrifice, I didnt want TOO many Nintendo guys. Palutena and ZSS seem to fit nicely.

Dude, you can't pick Palutena over Peach... That's just all kinds of wrong.

 

[Idon]

Just got put into a match with hazards Shadow Moses with 3 minutes.

Why are people like this

 

[PeridotGX]

Bruh, I forgot Luigi. Peach was kind of a sacrifice, I didnt want TOO many Nintendo guys. Palutena and ZSS seem to fit nicely.

Dosn't excuse the fact that Zelda, Kirby, DK Xenoblade, and METROID have more characters than Mario.

 

[Deleted member]

Dude, you can't pick Palutena over Peach... That's just all kinds of wrong.

IMO, Palutena would be more interesting.


I'd envision NvC to be like a mixture of Smash and MvC. Tag Team system with metered supers and a traditional health bar, but with dynamic stages and more mobile characters.

 

[Deleted member]

Dosn't excuse the fact that Zelda, Kirby, DK Xenoblade, and METROID have more characters than Mario.

I actually meant to add Piranha Plant and Rosalina lol.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Decided to revamp my Super Smash Bros. vs. Jump Stars roster to a more realistic one.

Spoiler

Super Smash Bros.:
Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
Luigi (Super Mario Bros.)
Peach (Super Mario Bros.)
Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
Rosalina & Luma (Super Mario Bros.)
Yoshi (Yoshi)
Wario (WarioWare)
Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong)
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong)
Link (The Legend of Zelda)
Zelda (The Legend of Zelda)
Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)
Samus (Metroid)
Ridley (Metroid)
Kirby (Kirby)
Meta Knight (Kirby)
King Dedede (Kirby)
Fox (StarFox)
Pikachu (Pokemon)
Mewtwo (Pokemon)
Pokemon Trainer (Pokemon)
Lucario (Pokemon)
Gen 8 Pokemon (Pokemon)
Ness (EarthBound)
Lucas (EarthBound)
Captain Falcon (F-Zero)
Marth (Fire Emblem)
Lucina (Fire Emblem)
Ike (Fire Emblem)
Robin (Fire Emblem)
Edelgard (Fire Emblem)
Pit (Kid Icarus)
Palutena (Kid Icarus)
Olimar (Pikmin)
Isabelle (Animal Crossing)
Shulk (Xenoblade Chronicles)
Inkling (Splatoon)
Spring Man (ARMS)
Ice Climbers (Ice Climber)
Mr. Game & Watch (Game & Watch)
R.O.B. (R.O.B.)
Little Mac (Punch-Out!!)
Duck Hunt (Duck Hunt)
Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog); Guest Character

Jump Stars:
Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z)
Gohan (Dragon Ball Z)
Frieza (Dragon Ball Z)
Beerus (Dragon Ball Z)
Naruto Uzumaki (Naruto)
Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto)
Kakashi Hatake (Naruto)
Madara Uchiha (Naruto)
Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)
Rukia Kuchiki (Bleach)
Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach)
Sosuke Aizen (Bleach)
Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Roronoa Zoro (One Piece)
Sanji (One Piece)
Blackbeard (One Piece)
Tragalfar Law (One Piece)
Izuku Midoriya (My Hero Academia)
Katsuki Bakugou (My Hero Academia)
All Might (My Hero Academia)
Yusuke Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Hiei (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Younger Toguro (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Kurama (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Gon Freecss (HunterxHunter)
Killua Zoldyck (HunterxHunter)
Jotaro Kujo (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures)
Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures)
Toriko (Toriko)
Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)
Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya)
Kenshin Himura (Rurouni Kenshin)
Tsuna Sawada (Reborn!)
Gintoki Sakata (Gin Tama)
Arale Norimaki (Dr. Slump)
Medaka Kurokami (Medaka Box)
Tatsumi Oga (Beelzebub)
Yugi Moto (Yu-Gi-Oh!)
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo)
Ryo Saeba (City Hunter)
Asta (Black Clover)
Koro-sensei (Assassination Classroom)
Dr. Stone (Dr. Stone)
Saitama (One Punch Man); Guest Character

 

[PeridotGX]

I actually meant to add Piranha Plant and Rosalina lol.

So you're going to add Pirahna Plant, but not Yoshi.

This makes me simotaneously confused and angry.

 

[Deleted member]

So you're going to add Pirahna Plant, but not Yoshi.

This makes me simotaneously confused and angry.

Yoshi is there.

 

[MainJPW]

So you're going to add Pirahna Plant, but not Yoshi.

This makes me simotaneously confused and angry.

Don’t let Zinith find out.

 

[PeridotGX]

Don’t let Zinith find out.

Indeed. It would be a tragedy if Zinith was to find out.

 

[Knight Dude]

Here... better idea...

Nintendo Vs Capcom....
Ready, set go

It should happen one day. Give me Mega Man X and some DMC characters and I'm good.

How about Nintendo vs. NetherRealm?

Spoiler

What do you mean you "don't wanna see Nintendo characters perform fatalities?"

If NetherRealm had IPs other than MK and Injustice. Unless it was like MK vs Metroid or something.

 

[Deleted member]

When I think about NvC, I think of interactive environments, transforming stages, and wacky supers.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

Decided to revamp my Super Smash Bros. vs. Jump Stars roster to a more realistic one.

Spoiler

Super Smash Bros.:
Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
Luigi (Super Mario Bros.)
Peach (Super Mario Bros.)
Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
Rosalina & Luma (Super Mario Bros.)
Yoshi (Yoshi)
Wario (WarioWare)
Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong)
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong)
Link (The Legend of Zelda)
Zelda (The Legend of Zelda)
Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)
Samus (Metroid)
Ridley (Metroid)
Kirby (Kirby)
Meta Knight (Kirby)
King Dedede (Kirby)
Fox (StarFox)
Pikachu (Pokemon)
Mewtwo (Pokemon)
Pokemon Trainer (Pokemon)
Lucario (Pokemon)
Gen 8 Pokemon (Pokemon)
Ness (EarthBound)
Lucas (EarthBound)
Captain Falcon (F-Zero)
Marth (Fire Emblem)
Lucina (Fire Emblem)
Ike (Fire Emblem)
Robin (Fire Emblem)
Edelgard (Fire Emblem)
Pit (Kid Icarus)
Palutena (Kid Icarus)
Olimar (Pikmin)
Isabelle (Animal Crossing)
Shulk (Xenoblade Chronicles)
Inkling (Splatoon)
Spring Man (ARMS)
Ice Climbers (Ice Climber)
Mr. Game & Watch (Game & Watch)
R.O.B. (R.O.B.)
Little Mac (Punch-Out!!)
Duck Hunt (Duck Hunt)
Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog); Guest Character

Jump Stars:
Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z)
Gohan (Dragon Ball Z)
Frieza (Dragon Ball Z)
Beerus (Dragon Ball Z)
Naruto Uzumaki (Naruto)
Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto)
Kakashi Hatake (Naruto)
Madara Uchiha (Naruto)
Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)
Rukia Kuchiki (Bleach)
Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach)
Sosuke Aizen (Bleach)
Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Roronoa Zoro (One Piece)
Sanji (One Piece)
Blackbeard (One Piece)
Tragalfar Law (One Piece)
Izuku Midoriya (My Hero Academia)
Katsuki Bakugou (My Hero Academia)
All Might (My Hero Academia)
Yusuke Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Hiei (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Younger Toguro (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Kurama (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Gon Freecss (HunterxHunter)
Killua Zoldyck (HunterxHunter)
Jotaro Kujo (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures)
Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures)
Toriko (Toriko)
Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)
Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya)
Kenshin Himura (Rurouni Kenshin)
Tsuna Sawada (Reborn!)
Gintoki Sakata (Gin Tama)
Arale Norimaki (Dr. Slump)
Medaka Kurokami (Medaka Box)
Tatsumi Oga (Beelzebub)
Yugi Moto (Yu-Gi-Oh!)
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo)
Ryo Saeba (City Hunter)
Asta (Black Clover)
Koro-sensei (Assassination Classroom)
Dr. Stone (Dr. Stone)
Saitama (One Punch Man); Guest Character

I'd sub out Blackbeard with Ace or Katakuri for One Piece; Blackbeard's boring.

(That's about all I can comment on though since I don't watch that much anime.)

 

[Just a penguin]

I'm thinking of picking up Bowser Jr. as a secondary. Specifically Iggy. I love how bouncy him and his kit feel!

We could always use one more player. If you
feel like talking about him, head over to the character sub forum. Right now, it’s as dead as a Chrom fighting against someone with a gustbellows.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Okay who thought the Giga Mac spirit battle was okay? He can kill you in like three his, has massive hitboxes and doesn't flinch and will outrange even tether grabs with his attacks. I ended up cheesing him with a revenge boosted Incineroar Side B at the walk off and I am 100% convinced cheesing him with lame strategies like that are the only one who beat him.

Speaking of Incineroar I really want to play him because I love scaring opponents into shield and getting grabs, but how am I supposed to do that with that mobility? It doesn't help that I don't like bad recoveries either. It's Ganondorf all over again. At least I've still got Charizard, Bowser and Riddles to play the heavy grappler game with.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

If Super Smash Bros. vs. Jump Stars was an actual game. Who'd be your mains from both sides?

Mine would be King K. Rool and Izuku Midoriya.

Pit and Gohan...if he’s ever been in one

Nintendo vs Marvel would be more fun honestly.

Ultimate Alliance 3 would be the best opportunity to test that (since Samus and Link we’re almost in the first MUA game)

Ideal Nintendo v Capcom Roster

Mario
Bowser
Kirby
Meta Knight
Link
Zelda
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
King K Rool
Bayonetta
Spring Man
Inkling
Diddy Kong
Sulk
Elma
Marth
Samus
Ridley
Zero Suit
Isaac
King Dedede
Mr. Game And Watch
Pit
Palutena
Rex and Pyra
Captain Falcon
Ness
Pikachu
Charizard
Mewtwo
Isabelle
Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Jedah Dohma
Mike Haggar
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Ryu
Ken
Mega Man
M. Bison
Nemesis

or...for the Nintendo side at the least (and only using the Smash Ultimate emotes here)





and the Koopalings would held out
would be apart of moveset
Almost left out cause Nintendo sees him as dead series wise and just to be a ****, but nah
Leaf > Red
all being alts
apart of moveset
being apart of another set of Guidances for cause **** yeah
I would throw in if they had guest fighters for some reason

It’s meant to be **** but atleast it’s gonna be reasonable ****

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Okay who thought the Giga Mac spirit battle was okay? He can kill you in like three his, has massive hitboxes and doesn't flinch and will outrange even tether grabs with his attacks. I ended up cheesing him with a revenge boosted Incineroar Side B at the walk off and I am 100% convinced cheesing him with lame strategies like that are the only one who beat him.

Had you put it on Easy Mode? When a Spirit Challenge gets too difficult I just change the difficulty makes it much easier.

 

[PennyZ]

I just joined and I have a few questions,

1 could somebody please direct me to a Ultimate tier list that is not painfully inaccurate if there even is one

2 How do I make a thread?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Almost left out cause Nintendo sees him as dead series wise and just to be a ****, but nah

Captain Falcon is basically, the Morrigan of Smash Bros...

His original franchise might be dead, but he lives on as a mainstay in the massive company crossover, just because he's been part of it since the first game

 

[Noipoi]

Okay who thought the Giga Mac spirit battle was okay? He can kill you in like three his, has massive hitboxes and doesn't flinch and will outrange even tether grabs with his attacks. I ended up cheesing him with a revenge boosted Incineroar Side B at the walk off and I am 100% convinced cheesing him with lame strategies like that are the only one who beat him.

Speaking of Incineroar I really want to play him because I love scaring opponents into shield and getting grabs, but how am I supposed to do that with that mobility? It doesn't help that I don't like bad recoveries either. It's Ganondorf all over again. At least I've still got Charizard, Bowser and Riddles to play the heavy grappler game with.

Dash attack. Incineroar's dash attack kicks him forwards a bit.

Also, remember to neutral special. Darkest lariat is one of your greatest tools. Shield and wait for your opponent to come to you, once they're close hit em' with the neutral special.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Anyways about my Super Smash Bros. vs. Jump Stars game I think a certain someone will be happy that I decided to add Kurama into my ideal roster.

On the other hand decided to throw Toriko and Kenshin Himura back in because chances are in such a game they'd be added in spite of the authors crimes especially given Kenshin will be in Jump Force.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Pit and Gohan...if he’s ever been in one

Gohan was playable in Jump Super and Ultimate Stars for the DS.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Had you put it on Easy Mode? When a Spirit Challenge gets too difficult I just change the difficulty makes it much easier.

Nah, I'm a masochistic tryhard so I'm 100%ing it on Hard Mode and Hard Mode only.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Nah, I'm a masochistic tryhard so I'm 100%ing it on Hard Mode and Hard Mode only.

Ah alright thought maybe you didn't know that and so suggested it to you.

 

[Noipoi]

I just joined and I have a few questions,

1 could somebody please direct me to a Ultimate tier list that is not painfully inaccurate if there even is one

2 How do I make a thread?

Check it out

Spoiler

 

[R O F L]

Ideal Nintendo v Capcom Roster

Mario
Bowser
Kirby
Meta Knight
Link
Zelda
Yoshi
Rosalina and Luma
Phirana Plant
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
King K Rool
Bayonetta
Spring Man
Inkling
Diddy Kong
Sulk
Elma
Marth
Samus
Ridley
Zero Suit
Isaac
King Dedede
Mr. Game And Watch
Pit
Palutena
Rex and Pyra
Captain Falcon
Ness
Pikachu
Charizard
Mewtwo
Isabelle
Arthur
Chris Redfield
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Frank West
Jedah Dohma
Mike Haggar
Monster Hunter
Sigma
Ryu
Ken
Mega Man
M. Bison
Nemesis

3 Xenoblade characters, Mr. Game and Watch, ZSS, Palutena, Spring Man, Bayonetta who isn't even Nintendo, and Issac, but no Olimar? Smh.