Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[TheCJBrine]

If he wants more platforming characters, he should campaign for Polar Bear from Ice Climber.

 

[ThatOneAnon]

...so what genre it is from?

Action adventure, duh
The only remotely RPG-like thing about its gameplay are the fact that there's sidequests. That is LITERALLY it

 

[Gentlepanda]

elma? rex? fiora? nah son, next xenoblade character should be

riki

DLC xenoblade rep is L

screenshot/bookmark this

 

[Deleted member]

elma? rex? fiora? nah son, next xenoblade character should be

riki

Riki creates creates a clone of himself and becomes both an assist trophy and a playable character.

Make it happen it happen Sakurai, you know people want him.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

DLC xenoblade rep is L

screenshot/bookmark this

I don't remember a lot of specific lines from XCX.
But L screaming ARSECAVES is one of the highlights of the game tbh

 

[Diddy Kong]

Saying "Zelda is an RPG" is basically proof your mom drank when she was pregnant with you.

This is by far my favorite post in this entire thread. I think we'd get along greatly.

 

[Deleted member]

Pfft, Zelda is clearly a platformer.

Link jumps in BotW.

 

[Bionichute]

Pfft, Zelda is clearly a platformer.

Link jumps in BotW.

hey you're forgetting an actual example

 

[Schnee117]

If he wants more platforming characters, he should campaign for Polar Bear from Ice Climber.

He'd rather campaign for a sentient carpet and stuffed bird for some reason.

 

[Robertman2]

DLC xenoblade rep is L

screenshot/bookmark this

It's Juju

 

[Bionichute]

He'd rather campaign for a sentient carpet and stuffed bird for some reason.

you mean the helm of a ship

 

[PlugMeister]

"Zelda is an RPG franchise" - People who have only played/seen Zelda II

 

[Diddy Kong]

"Zelda is an RPG franchise" - People who have only played/seen Zelda II

Argubly the worst, and most frustrating game in the franchise.

But I do gotta say though, BotW does have a lot of RPG elements in it. So did Skyward Sword honestly.

 

[Bionichute]

i mean being fair, depending on how you look at it, there's either 15 or 22 rpg characters (if you want to include fire emblem characters because that is very, very close to an rpg imo. strategy rpg)

we only have 23 platformer characters, and the rest are characters from other genres. i think we have so many rpg characters because of pokemon, but like. rpgs are good even if they aren't super my thing?

 

[Iridium]

Argubly the worst, and most frustrating game in the franchise.

But I do gotta say though, BotW does have a lot of RPG elements in it. So did Skyward Sword honestly.

But we can't forget this guy, now can we?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

i mean being fair, depending on how you look at it, there's either 15 or 22 rpg characters (if you want to include fire emblem characters because that is very, very close to an rpg imo. strategy rpg)

we only have 23 platformer characters, and the rest are characters from other genres. i think we have so many rpg characters because of pokemon, but like. rpgs are good even if they aren't super my thing?

Yeah but they aren't what I grew up with so we should take away the rights of RPG fans

 

[PeridotGX]

elma? rex? fiora? nah son, next xenoblade character should be

riki

No. It will be THIS!

https://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Plasma_Deinos

 

[Bionichute]

Yeah but they aren't what I grew up with so we should take away the rights of RPG fans

i feel like this guy would very hypocritically endorse more earthbound content. i mean i want more earthbound too but you get my point

 

[Deleted member]

It's Juju

His fs is crashing his buggy into you despite you being on the side of a straight road that he was driving on.

****ing juju

 

[Schnee117]

i mean being fair, depending on how you look at it, there's either 15 or 22 rpg characters (if you want to include fire emblem characters because that is very, very close to an rpg imo. strategy rpg)

we only have 23 platformer characters, and the rest are characters from other genres. i think we have so many rpg characters because of pokemon, but like. rpgs are good even if they aren't super my thing?

Yeah FE is officially counted as Strategy RPG.
But hush with the facts and actual insight into the numbers, you'll kill the false narrative that way. And how dare you be considerate of what other people want.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

i feel like this guy would very hypocritically endorse more earthbound content. i mean i want more earthbound too but you get my point

Nah he just screams about Donkey Kong, Pokemon Red and Blue or Banjo Kazooie

 

[Schnee117]

Nah he just screams about Donkey Kong, Pokemon Red and Blue or Banjo Kazooie

You forgot about him "joking" that Bayonetta caused Brexit

 

[Bionichute]

Yeah FE is officially counted as Strategy RPG.
But hush with the facts and actual insight into the numbers, you'll kill the false narrative that way. And how dare you be considerate of what other people want.

as a very not a fan of fire emblem i really get the complaints about there being too many fire emblem characters (even if i enjoy playing as most of them) but there are like. other rpgs that are good? i endorse more rpg content that isn't fire emblem

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah FE is officially counted as Strategy RPG.
But hush with the facts and actual insight into the numbers, you'll kill the false narrative that way. And how dare you be considerate of what other people want.

lmfao that reminds me, someone made that graph of characters who use their fists, guns/tech or swords to show that swords aren't nearly as common in Smash as people let on and his response is "Nuh uh that's dishonest and I will not elaborate on that"

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

So what does everyone think about Spirits and weather they deconfrm DLC fighters or not? I personally think they don't, since they're essentially this game's Trophies and Mewtwo and Lucas had their own before they were shown as DLC for Smash 4, but I've seen a lot of mixed opinions on the topic.

 

[TheCJBrine]

That guy y'all are talking about seems rude in general.

Anyway he just described what makes "the best Smash Bros. guests" and all his points line-up with Minecraft (except arguably closely affiliated with Nintendo but it's still close if you ask me due to how Nintendo treats it).

 

[Bionichute]

So what does everyone think about Spirits and weather they deconfrm DLC fighters or not? I personally think they don't, since they're essentially this game's Trophies and Mewtwo and Lucas had their own before they were shown as DLC for Smash 4, but I've seen a lot of mixed opinions on the topic.

what i'd say is to not get your hopes up for any character that has a spirit. its not confirmed that spirits deconfirm characters, but its generally better to keep low expectations over these kind of things

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That guy y'all are talking about seems rude in general.

Anyway he just described what makes "the best Smash Bros. guests" and all his points line-up with Minecraft (except arguably closely affiliated with Nintendo but it's still close if you ask me due to how Nintendo treats it).

Yes but you see the game with Mario with a coat, baby Pikachu, 3 Links and Samus But Not In Her Suit has high standards, the best selling video game ever just doesn't fit within those standards

 

[Deleted member]

Yes but you see the game with Mario with a coat, baby Pikachu, 3 Links and Samus But Not In Her Suit has high standards, the best selling video game ever just doesn't fit within those standards

Minecraft is a platformer bc you can jump

 

[Bionichute]

Yes but you see the game with Mario with a coat, baby Pikachu, 3 Links and Samus But Not In Her Suit has high standards, the best selling video game ever just doesn't fit within those standards

dr mario is one of the most successful puzzle games of all time, and pokemon just exists in general

 

[TheCJBrine]

People have recreated Super Mario Bros. in Minecraft, saying it's not a platformer is like saying Mario isn't a platformer.

 

[Opossum]

He'd rather campaign for a sentient carpet and stuffed bird for some reason.

For a minute I thought you were talking about Pidgit from SMB2.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

dr mario is one of the most successful puzzle games of all time, and pokemon just exists in general

Still doesn't change the fact Smash fans exaggerate what is deemed worthy for the series

Minecraft is a platformer bc you can jump

oh **** nevermind now it's good

 

[TheCJBrine]

For a minute I thought you were talking about Pidgit from SMB2.
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I thought this as well and I still don't know who or what the actual implied character is.

 

[osby]

People have recreated Super Mario Bros. in Minecraft, saying it's not a platformer is like saying Mario isn't a platformer.

But how does a game I don't like can be from a genre a like?!

 

[Bionichute]

Still doesn't change the fact Smash fans exaggerate what is deemed worthy for the series

yeah im just saying you used some bad examples

should've been ice climbers and pit but with black hair

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

So what does everyone think about Spirits and weather they deconfrm DLC fighters or not? I personally think they don't, since they're essentially this game's Trophies and Mewtwo and Lucas had their own before they were shown as DLC for Smash 4, but I've seen a lot of mixed opinions on the topic.

I don’t do a lot of spirit battles, nor do I play a lot of WoL but Spirits are interesting. Some are used in clever ways, others in unfortunate ways such as the Paz spirit.

When it comes to whether they deconfirm characters or not, I’m personally not so sure. I’d love if they didn’t but I wouldn’t get my hopes up. The trophy argument doesn’t apply at all to Spirits though. Trophies didn’t serve much of a purpose other than a static model of a character/object with info on said character/object. Spirits are different in that they alter a fighter’s gameplay and add items at the start of a fight. Trophies have never done that.

 

[Deleted member]

I don’t do a lot of spirit battles, nor do I play a lot of WoL but Spirits are interesting. Some are used in clever ways, others in unfortunate ways such as the Paz spirit.

When it comes to whether they deconfirm characters or not, I’m personally not so sure. I’d love if they didn’t but I wouldn’t get my hopes up. The trophy argument doesn’t apply at all to Spirits though. Trophies didn’t serve much of a purpose other than a static model of a character/object with info on said character/object. Spirits are different in that they alter a fighter’s gameplay and add items at the start of a fight. Trophies have never done that.

God the Paz spirit is ****ed the hell up, Hinawa's too

 

[Cutie Gwen]

yeah im just saying you used some bad examples

should've been ice climbers and pit but with black hair

People always justify Ice Climbers with 'lol Sakurai is random' and Dark Pit is from Smash 4, any roster with Smash 4's count would get someone who isn't really noteworthy tbh

 

[MBRedboy31]

Yeah FE is officially counted as Strategy RPG.
But hush with the facts and actual insight into the numbers, you'll kill the false narrative that way. And how dare you be considerate of what other people want.

To be pedantic, isn’t FE a tactical RPG, not a strategy RPG? Strategy describes planning out the entire war (ex. playing Risk,) while tactics describes the more specific nitty-gritty of troop placement and whatnot. is a tactician and not a strategist, after all.