Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Will]

And yet your main is Inkling?

unga bunga side-b -> f-smash -> charge ink -> repeat

 

[TheCJBrine]

I want to see two Isabelles perform the infinite Assist Trophy glitch, and see either Waluigis, Fly Swatters or Skull Kids invade the stage.

edit: wait, infinite Moons.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Here’s a fun question. If you suddenly found yourself in the future, and playing a build of ultimate with all the dlc characters, then you returned here, would you tell everyone who they were?

I would put them out as a list and sit back and laugh as everyone goes on about how Im a fraud because I didnt give sources or any other info on how I know. To then being forgotten about when the characters get shown off

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I want to see two Isabelles perform the infinite Assist Trophy glitch, and see either Waluigis, Fly Swatters or Skull Kids invade the stage.

Here ya go
Pretty sure all of them are shown off here...

 

[Will]

Kind of funny how some people are using Isabelle's glitch as an excuse to **** on her.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Yeah, that all sounds like what I was dealing with last night. Arcfire definitely seems worse (And maybe even harder to hit now?), and it took me quite a while fighting against the CPU to realize Levin Sword has to charge up at the beginning of the match now. One cool thing I discovered was that Robin can pick up a discarded sword and throw it (don't think she had that back in 4).

Honestly...I wanna like her, and I still kind of like her, but I feel really torn on them. Gonna mess around with her and some more characters tomorrow and see if I can get them to click one more time.

Robin could actually grab a discarded tome or sword if you were quick about in Smash 4, so that's not actually new. It has a surprising amount of kill power to.

Anyway I'm the same way with Robin. I've always liked the idea of having an FE mage in Smash and I really wanted to be good with them, but they never fully clicked with me. I especially love that side special because it reminds me of GBA mages in particular.

What are your thoughts on Luigi? He's probably the character I'm most torn about right now. I still really like him, but I'm unsure if I wanna choose him over Mario for Ultimate.

I actually didn't like Luigi much in 4, but I actually kind of like him in Ultimate. His fireballs got a range buff which allows him to play more like a simple zoner, and they can also be used to pressure an opponent into shielding more to take advantage of his new pseudo-tether (which is kind of slow, but feels better then Smash 4's tethers generally). That probably has to do mostly to do with my play style preferences though, I like characters with solid range.

 

[Deleted member]

Use it to summon endless Waluigis.

Spoiler

This one here knows what's up.

We're playing the REAL Isabelle meta.

I feel "Infinite Rathalos" is a very well balanced Special, people calling for nerfs need to git gud.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Look I know you guys are sick of tier lists, but I'm telling you, this is the one

Spoiler: Very Festive

I want opinions on this it took me like half an hour to make

 

[TheCJBrine]

Here ya go
Pretty sure all of them are shown off here...

I really wanna see infinite Moons happen online.

C'mon Isabelle, give us the Final Day.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

I’d love it if that stage was Tetris. One of many possible options for a DLC stage. They could do Minecraft, Skyrim, Fallout. Any game more about the setting than the characters. They could finally give ROB a home with a Gyromite stage.

Yeah, I feel like a Minecraft stage would fit this role super well. Imagine how cool it'd be too if they had a day and night cycle and mobs would come out when night? That'd be really interesting and neat!

 

[Roberk]

Robin could actually grab a discarded tome or sword if you were quick about in Smash 4, so that's not actually new. It has a surprising amount of kill power to.

Anyway I'm the same way with Robin. I've always liked the idea of having an FE mage in Smash and I really wanted to be good with them, but they never fully clicked with me. I especially love that side special because it reminds me of GBA mages in particular.

I actually didn't like Luigi much in 4, but I actually kind of like him in Ultimate. His fireballs got a range buff which allows him to play more like a simple zoner, and they can also be used to pressure an opponent into shielding more to take advantage of his new pseudo-tether (which is kind of slow, but feels better then Smash 4's tethers generally). That probably has to do mostly to do with my play style preferences though, I like characters with solid range.

Robin feels like he's trying to do so much as once, almost every move feels like it's only good in niche situations. I wouldn't mind a faster mage focused on offense to balance against Robin's slow, tactical approach. Which a GBA mage with alts of different characters would be perfect for.

 

[Shroob]

Just realized how nice the Classic Mode CSS is gonna look once Piranha Plant is out.

And how it's gonna be ruined once the Fighter Pass starts.

 

[RyuhoFox]

I really don't get why the levin sword needs to charge at the start of a round now. As far as I am aware they weren't terrorizing tourneys and it having durability at all already got that mechanic across. A lot of your killing power is just gone for like the first bit of a match now and I don't get why this was needed.

 

[Deleted member]

And yet your main is Inkling?

I don't get it either, lol.

In theory, a lot of Inkling should translate over great with Isabelle. It's her Down-B; I just can't figure out the best setups for it. Inkling's Splatbombs are becoming easier for me, as I'm slowly clicking with the physics more and more. Isabelle just isn't for some reason and it's starting to irritate me, especially when I feel like I'm making good strides in my Inkling and K. Rool. I also can't for the life of me use her Up-Smash properly.

TBH it probably comes down to me needing more human practice with Isabelle. I've been training my Inkling and K. Rool with people online and friends lately, but Isabelle I've mostly used in CPU fights. I'll try some Quick Play matches tomorrow and see if that'll help teach me anything.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Look I know you guys are sick of tier lists, but I'm telling you, this is the one

Spoiler: Very Festive

View attachment 183512

I want opinions on this it took me like half an hour to make

Any thing that puts a Christmas song by Bieber above literally any other Christmas song should IMMEDIATELY be thrown out.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Look I know you guys are sick of tier lists, but I'm telling you, this is the one

Spoiler: Very Festive

View attachment 183512

I want opinions on this it took me like half an hour to make

I'd probably put Feliz Navidad in S ranking, but that's just me...

 

[ClaTheBae]

Any thing that puts a Christmas song by Bieber above literally any other Christmas song should IMMEDIATELY be thrown out.

You guys are seriously not giving that song a chance it is unironically good.
If y'all heard it and didn't know it was Bieber you'd be like "oh this **** flames"

 

[TheCJBrine]

I'd probably put all of those songs in S-Tier, or any Christmas song really.

Although I don't recall hearing Bieber's and maybe one or two other ones out of those.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

You guys are seriously not giving that song a chance it is unironically good.
If y'all heard it and didn't know it was Bieber you'd be like "oh this **** flames"

Nah. He has like ONE good song in his catalog and even with that you literally have to forget it's him PLUS the fact it was written by Taylor Swift's ginger friend.

**** Ed Sheeran too.

 

[Deleted member]

Robin could actually grab a discarded tome or sword if you were quick about in Smash 4, so that's not actually new. It has a surprising amount of kill power to.

Anyway I'm the same way with Robin. I've always liked the idea of having an FE mage in Smash and I really wanted to be good with them, but they never fully clicked with me. I especially love that side special because it reminds me of GBA mages in particular.

I actually didn't like Luigi much in 4, but I actually kind of like him in Ultimate. His fireballs got a range buff which allows him to play more like a simple zoner, and they can also be used to pressure an opponent into shielding more to take advantage of his new pseudo-tether (which is kind of slow, but feels better then Smash 4's tethers generally). That probably has to do mostly to do with my play style preferences though, I like characters with solid range.

I love the concept of Robin and really liked them in Smash 4, but they just feel really clunky in this game.

I loved Smash 4 Luigi and dreaded this game's Luigi after hearing about all of the nerfs, but after playing him, he didn't feel bad. He actually felt really fun, and kind of better than Smash 4 Luigi. I'm just really torn between him and Mario right now. Luigi will probably win out, though, as I just like his kit more. Gotta love Misfire

 

[Deleted member]

Kind of funny how some people are using Isabelle's glitch as an excuse to **** on her.

These same people probably think the Training Room music from Omikron: The Nomad Soul is a good song.
I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

 

[Opossum]

Kind of funny how some people are using Isabelle's glitch as an excuse to **** on her.

Some folks will take anything as a reason, sadly.

Look I know you guys are sick of tier lists, but I'm telling you, this is the one

Spoiler: Very Festive

View attachment 183512

I want opinions on this it took me like half an hour to make

Sad that Bing Crosby as a whole fell pretty low and that the catchy as hell Snow Miser/Heat Miser song didn't make the cut.
Happy that all the S tier picks are fantastic.
Confused at your beef with It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas.

All in all pretty solid. B+.
Edit: Hark! The Herald Angels Sing isn't here so I'm forced to knock it down to a B-.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Nah. He has like ONE good song in his catalog and even with that you literally have to forget it's him PLUS the fact it was written by Taylor Swift's ginger friend.

**** Ed Sheeran too.

Don't even sit here and tell me that when he says "shawty with yooooooouuuuuuuu" you don't even swoon a little

 

[TheCJBrine]

I also want to see Villager and Isabelle crash an online match

 

[Condenir]

I was at almost 1.5million GSP with palutena. And then I fought 5 links(different) in a row who just spammed all their projectiles.
Now my GSP has truly plummeted but I can beat good K.Rools, can go toe to toe with inklings and Pokémon trainers, but I just can’t play well at all against spammy characters.
SHE EVEN HAS A REFLECT but the projectiles just overwhelmed me.
No point to this except that I’m ANNOYED and wish I was better against spammies

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Don't even sit here and tell me that when he says "shawty with yooooooouuuuuuuu" you don't even swoon a little

I am not shawty so no.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Confused at your beef with It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas.

Never thought I'd see this sentence typed out to me but pretty much any rendition of that song is just too slow for me or just too stripped back in terms of instrumentals

 

[Will]

Confused at your beef with It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas.

well thats a sentence i thought i'd never see constructed

 

[washyrose670]

Look I know you guys are sick of tier lists, but I'm telling you, this is the one

Spoiler: Very Festive

View attachment 183512

I want opinions on this it took me like half an hour to make

As long as Baby It’s Cold Outside is bottom of bottom tier, I’m satisfied. I get worried every time I hear it.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I present to you this greatness...

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

welp. Im losing my sight, time for me to go

 

[Deleted member]

I present to you this greatness...

Stop, I already have too many characters I wanna main.

This only makes it harder.

Seriously, why did I ever rag on Incineroar; the boy's a legend.

 

[REZERO]

I was at almost 1.5million GSP with palutena. And then I fought 5 links(different) in a row who just spammed all their projectiles.
Now my GSP has truly plummeted but I can beat good K.Rools, can go toe to toe with inklings and Pokémon trainers, but I just can’t play well at all against spammy characters.
SHE EVEN HAS A REFLECT but the projectiles just overwhelmed me.
No point to this except that I’m ANNOYED and wish I was better against spammies

Sometimes I wonder if matchmaking sets you up versus certain characters online. I've played like 200+ matches online and I've encountered the same 25ish characters in those matches.

 

[Wademan94]

Alright uhhh, so how about Mii Costume DLC? I'd like Zeke and Morag from XC2, BOTW Champions would also be neat. Essentially, characters that never really had a chance in the first place but still have fan support to warrant asset development. Any ideas?

Brawler
-Young Cricket (Warioware)
-Karate Joe (Rhythm Heaven)
-Urban Champion

Swordfighter
-Captain Syrup (Wario)
-Linebeck (Zelda)
-Owain (Fire Emblem)

And I need some ideas for Gunners

 

[ZephyrZ]

I present to you this greatness...

That's a pretty neat Incineroar / Alolan Persian fusion. What's it called? Incinian? Percineroar?

 

[Noipoi]

All I want for Christmas is You is S Tier.
That's all that matters.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Does anyone know a good Mii moveset for Marx (Kirby)?

I have him as a Swordfighter but idk.

I also have to mention that I have a Sans gunner with a voice that sounds like Ness's.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Alright uhhh, so how about Mii Costume DLC? I'd like Zeke and Morag from XC2, BOTW Champions would also be neat. Essentially, characters that never really had a chance in the first place but still have fan support to warrant asset development. Any ideas?

If we can't get Geno as DLC, I'd love to at least see his costume return.

 

[Deleted member]

Sometimes I wonder if matchmaking sets you up versus certain characters online. I've played like 200+ matches online and I've encountered the same 25ish characters in those matches.

I haven't been able to play that much online (been busy with Christmas stuff), but in the 15-ish or so matches I've currently done through Background Matchmaking, I've found a lot of diversity in character picks. My last session had a Snake that stomped me, a Zelda that stomped me thrice, a Pikachu I actually won against, and an Ike that I rematched for a pretty long while as we were trading wins and losses.

 

[Shroob]

Hot take/unpopular opinion.

I want an 8th Fire Emblem character.


Just so we can have 8 Player Fire Emblem fights without having to resort to female Robin/Corrin.



That and this fanbase will cave in on itself regardless of how unique the character is,