Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

also no dire dire dock theme in the game sorry

Aww...

Oh well, I figured. It was playing on an AC stage in the video, lol. Makes sense it was added in.

My stance on Mii Costumes is that it's better than nothing. At least the character or game is being acknowledged in some way, and who knows? Maybe someone gets interested in where the costume comes from and it leads to them playing and enjoying that game, which helps keep it relevant.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Fun Fact.

We only have one Japan only character with Lucas now.

Roy is now international thanks to Fire Emblem Heroes.

 

[Noipoi]

Man Toad gets **** on by this fanbase and it annoys me to no end.

The fanbase constantly complains they want iconic characaters who have been around a long time and have shaped history. Characters that scream Nintendo and characters that provide stuff that no one else does.

Toad does literally all of that.

"Well yeah but he's lame..."

It's dumb.

I wouldn't mind Toad. He's not one of my favorites or anything, but he's definitely an icon. One of the last huge Mario characters remaining, along with Waluigi.

It'd be like seeing that friend who isn't your best friend but you still like a lot finally get something nice, after the world has **** on them relentlessly.

 

[Captain Fun]

Fun Fact.

We only have one Japan only character with Lucas now.

Roy is now international thanks to Fire Emblem Heroes.

Roy made a brief appearance in Fire Emblem 7's epilogue.

 

[Noipoi]

Fun Fact.

We only have one Japan only character with Lucas now.

Roy is now international thanks to Fire Emblem Heroes.

Come on Reggie, give us Mother 3!

 

[Deleted member]

I wouldn't mind Toad. He's not one of my favorites or anything, but he's definitely an icon. One of the last huge Mario characters remaining, along with Waluigi.

It'd be like seeing that friend who isn't your best friend but you still like a lot finally get something nice, after the world has **** on them relentlessly.

TBH I'd love Captain Toad getting in if only for people who constantly badger Captain Toad fans about the "no jump" thing.

We get it. It's a thing. Just like how Ridley was too big and Villager and Isabelle are too peaceful.

 

[Iridium]

Fun Fact.

We only have one Japan only character with Lucas now.

Roy is now international thanks to Fire Emblem Heroes.

We also have two Robins from two different franchises in Smash now, if you count Isaac (his JP name in particular). Some cool useless info.

 

[Flyboy]

I really feel like if we get a first party in the Fighters Pass Captain Toad is the one. I dunno, just a hunch.

 

[Iridium]

TBH I'd love Captain Toad getting in if only for people who constantly badger Captain Toad fans about the "no jump" thing.

We get it. It's a thing. Just like how Ridley was too big and Villager and Isabelle are too peaceful.

I mean, yeah. Sakurai doesn't have to add every aspect of a character to them in Smash (although it would be nice for certain characters...). Like, Luigi not being able to wall jump in Smash despite being able to do so frequently in his home series. Honestly, we need actually reasons for why a character can't get in that aren't petty.

It couldn't be that hard for Captain Toad, for example, to jump give him the worst jump height in the game instead of giving him no jumps. It's fair, and close enough to the source material (as it could be).

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

If the plot demands it they'll somehow bring Ridley back. You need to like atomize every single fiber of his body to keep him dead for good. That's why his fellow Space Pirates manages to keep bringing him back due to that regenerative technology they possess.

The Metroid franchise doesn't even know what "dead" means.

You two got me there.

 

[Untouch]

Ezio, for some reason, feels likely to me.
I just thought about it and it makes a lot of sense, wasn't there an Assassin's Creed collection leak or rumour?
I have a feeling Ubisoft is getting a rep, and I feel Rayman is out of the running, that leaves the Prince and Ezio (the Prince would be so much better, but I feel Ubisoft is doing nothing with the Prince of Persia series at the moment).

 

[Mrplutoguy112]

Lucas and Ness PK Fire attack’s:

Is it just me or did PK abilities like fire get more OP and more effective to damage percentage.

It’s like once Lucas or Ness use PK fire the opponent is unable to escape its firey cour and making cause more damage to your opponent.
I started noticing that the more I play Ness or Lucas day by day in matches.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean, yeah. Sakurai doesn't have to add every aspect of a character to them in Smash (although it would be nice for certain characters...). Like, Luigi not being able to wall jump in Smash despite being able to do so frequently in his home series. Honestly, we need actually reasons for why a character can't get in that aren't petty.

It would be nice if arguments against a character didn't boil down to simply: "I don't like them!"

I mean, it's fine not to like a character, but that isn't an objective reason why a character shouldn't be in. I'll outright admit I'm guilty of this; all of my complaints against Dante are incredibly biased, not at all objective and are not good reasons for why he shouldn't be in. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it would be nice if we all learned to not force our opinions as facts, but eh, it's the internet: What are you gonna do?

 

[Zinith]

Even though I dropped the whole rivalry thing in my ideal game I thought for the fun of it to come up with as many rivalries as I can in my roster.

Mario (Super Mario Bros.) vs. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Mascots
Wario (WarioWare) vs. Gintoki Sakata (Gin Tama) - Greedy but lovable founders
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong) vs. Blackbeard (One Piece) - Evil pirates
Link (The Legend of Zelda) vs. Jotaro Kujo (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures) - Stoic silent protagonists
Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda) vs. Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures) - Unkillable antagonists
Ridley (Metroid) vs. Frieza (Dragon Ball Z) - Genocidal aliens
Meta Knight (Kirby) vs. Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach) - Honorable rivals
Pikachu (Pokemon) vs. Killua Zoldyck (HunterxHunter) - Electric based fighters
Ness (EarthBound) vs. Gon Freecss (HunterxHunter) - Happy-Go-Lucky adventurous kids
Pit (Kid Icarus) vs. Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya) - Gods chosen champions

Too bad you can't put Toriko in, cause I would've put him as Yoshi's rival...

 

[T3Z3R1]

Come on Reggie, give us Mother 3!

Now, now. Don't get roasted by him, that's what happened to the fan who asked for it.

 

[Luigi The President]

So uh fellas...

...is Kid Dracula just...not a stage hazard?

 

[Flyboy]

So uh fellas...

...is Kid Dracula just...not a stage hazard?

He's just a cameo in shadow form I think. The pose is the same as his Spirit render.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Now, now. Don't get roasted by him, that's what happened to the fan who asked for it.

Never forget when Reggie murdered a man for wanting Mother 3

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Ezio, for some reason, feels likely to me.
I just thought about it and it makes a lot of sense, wasn't there an Assassin's Creed collection leak or rumour?
I have a feeling Ubisoft is getting a rep, and I feel Rayman is out of the running, that leaves the Prince and Ezio (the Prince would be so much better, but I feel Ubisoft is doing nothing with the Prince of Persia series at the moment).

I would ve totally okay with Ezio.

Assassin’s Creed was loads of fun (at least the Ezio ones and Edward Kenway’s. Also Shay’s, but people tend to forget about Rogue since that was made exclusive to last gen consoles and was basically a northern rehash of Black Flag). I was happy to see Ezio crossover with whatever SCV was, but unfortunately that was a miserable excuse for a Soul Calibur game.

Ezio could bring a lot of fun with his kit and items. Also another bearded dude for @Tougon

 

[KarneraMythos]

Come on Reggie, give us Mother 3!

If Mother 3 was so good, why isn't there a Mother 3 2?

 

[khfan93]

1.2.0 is live.
According to the patch notes, it will prioritize format when matchmaking for online more than previously.

 

[vaanrose]

"The fighters that had specific adjustments are listed below.

Adjusted Fighters

Donkey Kong, Link, Kirby, Luigi, Ice Climbers, Young Link, Olimar, Toon Link, Villager, Greninja, PAC-MAN, Duck Hunt, and Isabelle"


Better than nothing, I guess.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

1.2.0 is live.
According to the patch notes, it will prioritize format when matchmaking for online more than previously.

Hey, they're listening and listening quickly.

This is good.

 

[Deleted member]

They nerfed the CPU difficulty for unlocks.

Ugh. I really hope they don't touch Spirits. They were fine!

 

[Galaxyman]

1.2.0 is live.
According to the patch notes, it will prioritize format when matchmaking for online more than previously.

cool but how MUCH more?

 

[Jexulus]

Wow. Pushed out a patch in less than a week that sought to correct matchmaking issues and adjust the hotly discussed difficulty of acquiring new challengers.
That's interesting.

 

[PlugMeister]

So apparently Greninja is in the list of characters that got changed...

...does this mean the meme is gonna come back?

 

[Wyoming]

"The fighters that had specific adjustments are listed below.

Adjusted Fighters

Donkey Kong, Link, Kirby, Luigi, Ice Climbers, Young Link, Olimar, Toon Link, Villager, Greninja, PAC-MAN, Duck Hunt, and Isabelle"


Better than nothing, I guess.

Pac-Man's grab seems faster

 

[Zinith]

Yoshi didn't get touched (probably)...

Good...

 

[Pyr]

I can't imagine how bad the, "but I FEEL like this changed" is going to be since we don't even have full data on characters yet.

 

[Noipoi]

"The fighters that had specific adjustments are listed below.

Adjusted Fighters

Donkey Kong, Link, Kirby, Luigi, Ice Climbers, Young Link, Olimar, Toon Link, Villager, Greninja, PAC-MAN, Duck Hunt, and Isabelle"


Better than nothing, I guess.

Better nerf Greninja makes it's return.

 

[Wiziliz]

Nah, that's Ridley 24.

One of the many, many clones Ridley's got in his basement that get released whenever he dies and can't rebuild himself. He's always 14.5 steps ahead.

But Dark Samus.

 

[Idon]

Pac-Man's grab seems faster

Oh no, don't you bring that up again.

"Wow, everyone I like feels faster and everyone I dislike feels slower!
I am so helpful to the discussion and definitely not spreading misinformation!"
Every.
Single.
Patch.

 

[Untouch]

lol the food glitch on yoshi's island is still here

 

[Wiziliz]

Man Toad gets **** on by this fanbase and it annoys me to no end.

The fanbase constantly complains they want iconic characaters who have been around a long time and have shaped history. Characters that scream Nintendo and characters that provide stuff that no one else does.

Toad does literally all of that.

"Well yeah but he's lame..."

It's dumb.

Are they wrong for saying that, though?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

"The fighters that had specific adjustments are listed below.

Adjusted Fighters

Donkey Kong, Link, Kirby, Luigi, Ice Climbers, Young Link, Olimar, Toon Link, Villager, Greninja, PAC-MAN, Duck Hunt, and Isabelle"


Better than nothing, I guess.

So did they actually nerf Greninja?

 

[Wyoming]

Oh no, don't you bring that up again.

"Wow, everyone I like feels faster and everyone I dislike feels slower!
I am so helpful to the discussion and definitely not spreading misinformation!"
Every.
Single.
Patch.

Well at least this time they will minimize the misinformation to a select few of characters.

I will hop onto online tonight to see if it works better. Excited!

 

[Deleted member]

So apparently Greninja is in the list of characters that got changed...

...does this mean the meme is gonna come back?

inb4 Greninja got buffed
And I'm glad they responded to online so quickly, shows that they're really listening this time around. It might still not be perfect, but hey at least they're trying.

 

[Wiziliz]

They better not have harmed Young Link! Heaps worried about that.

They nerfed the CPU difficulty for unlocks.

Ugh. I really hope they don't touch Spirits. They were fine!

Going to unlock Mewtwo while he's still a challenge, then. I've saved him for last, but wasn't planning on getting him for a couple more weeks, at least, haha.

 

[KMDP]

Why is King Boo not in Ultimate? Feels wrong

King Boo is in Ultimate.

As a Spirit.

I should know, I have him. You get him by enhancing the Boo Spirit.