Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Opossum]

You guys remember the Smash Ballot? Not the one for Smash4. The ORIGINAL Smash Ballot. Conducted by mail exclusively in Japan by Sakurai after Smash64 was released. You can still find the results in their entierety in the bowls of Nintendo Japan. Imagine if we got all of THOSE characters. Minus the ones we've actually received, it would be a roster that includes...

• Ganon (He was lumped in with Ganondorf in Sakurai's results, so iffy) (36 Votes)
• James Bond (25 Votes)
• Toad (27 Votes)
• Mew (24 Votes)
• Mr. Saturn (18 Votes)
• Banjo and Kazooie (18 Votes)
• Gooey (17 Votes)
• Sukapon (15 Votes)
• Lugia (11 Votes)
• Rick, Kine, & Coo (10 Votes)
• Koopa Troopa (9 Votes)
• Lip (9 Votes)
• Chocobo (9 Votes)
• Kamek (8 Votes)
• Meowth (8 Votes)
• Ogma (8 Votes)
• Prince Richard (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) (8 Votes)
• Goomba (7 Votes)
• Raichu (7 Votes)
• Doraemon (7 Votes)
• Poo (6 Votes)
• Metroid (6 Votes)
• Foreman Spike (6 Votes)
• Mallow (5 Votes)
• Geno (5 Votes)
• Marill (5 Votes)
• Bulbasaur (5 Votes)
• Togepi (5 Votes)
• Slippy Toad (5 Votes)
• Donbe & Hikari (Shin Onigashima) (5 Votes)
• Dion, Max, or Jack (Marvelous: Another Treasure Island) (5 Votes)
• Bomberman (4 Votes)
• Paula (4 Votes)
• Seliph (4 Votes)
• Samurai Goroh (4 Votes)
• Balloon Fighter (4 Votes)
• Crash Bandicoot (4 Votes)
• Baby Mario (3 Votes)
• Waddle Dee (3 Votes)
• Starman (3 Votes)
• Jeff Andonuts (3 Votes)
• Darunia (2 Votes)
• Peppy Hare (2 Votes)
• Gigurd (2 Votes)
• Leif (2 Votes)
• J-Bomb (2 Votes)
• Alec Trevelyan (2 Votes)

Ogma managing to get as many votes as he did makes me smile every time I remember this ballot.

Could you imagine a universe where Ogma got in over Ike in Brawl?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Just, what?

Spoiler

This isn't fake, either.

Chilé getting the good stuff.

0:00-0:01

Your making us wait for a month after registering but yet some people get the plant for the snap of their fingers

Why?

 

[T3Z3R1]

So guys


I'm trying to figure out some good team names right now

- Lean, Mean, Green Machines
- Kings of Brawl
- ???
- The Beautiful Athletes
- ???
- dWo (Dogs World Order)
- ???
- ???


Any good names that would be wicked for those with ???

- The Beauitful Mistre/ss/ don't hurt me pls, I saw some lewd fantart of Palutena and pit.
- Dong Expander
- The Murderer and His Commie Secretary
- Beautiful Anime Bois
- THOT SLAYER
- Borbs
- A Master Pokemon Team
- Two people that Samus hates in her life so much.
- SURPRISE BELMONT INQUISITION

 

[ChronoBound]

Maybe they love Lip more? I'm not really sure

Because third-parties were still considered a pipe dream at the time. I imagine Japanese Smash Bros. fans must have thought that Nintendo had the gaming rights to James Bond due to them publishing Goldeneye.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Let me just say that I am sorely disappointed with Game Freak's contribution to the daily countdown to Smash. Never have I seen something so rushed and lazily put together :L

Even Nomura's minimalistic traditional, cartoony-take on Mario, Link, Kirby, and Cloud was a cute replication of the characters, but Game Freak didn't bother providing original art of any kind. Fire Emblem is kind of in a similar spot, but Castle Siege at least looks drawn for their promotional art.

 

[Bionichute]

i can't believe ganon and k rool have both won smash ballots

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Because third-parties were still considered a pipe dream at the time. I imagine Japanese Smash Bros. fans must have thought that Nintendo had the gaming rights to James Bond due to them publishing Goldeneye.

I Love how the top two voted third parties are Doraemon and a Chocobo. Like, LOL, the third party reps are SO different now.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I can give you at least a few:

Spoiler: Unlocks

Marth is unlocked when you beat him in WoL. He’s at the beginning where you choose between Sheik, Villager, and Marth.

Bowser and Zelda are unlocked through playing vs matches. The order of unlocks for that is, evidently, Ness, Zelda, Bowser. So after you play a bit and have unlocked the first two, play a round of vs.

I believe Pit is actually after Bowser.

Wolf, if I remember correctly, is unlocked through Classic. You can unlock Falcon with Fox, Falco with Falcon, Peach and Daisy with Falco, and then Wolf with Peach. That’s the only way I know of unlocking him

No the correct character(s) for classic mode is what he’s asking for.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

i can't believe ganon and k rool have both won smash ballots

Technically he was 5th place and lumped together with Ganondorf.

 

[Bionichute]

Technically he was 5th place and lumped together with Ganondorf.

they are the same character

 

[R O F L]

Random question, but do any of y'all know what new features Ultimate's training mode has? Or is it just the new stage and knockback lines? I can't seem to find any info on it.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

I can give you at least a few:

Spoiler: Unlocks

Marth is unlocked when you beat him in WoL. He’s at the beginning where you choose between Sheik, Villager, and Marth.

Bowser and Zelda are unlocked through playing vs matches. The order of unlocks for that is, evidently, Ness, Zelda, Bowser. So after you play a bit and have unlocked the first two, play a round of vs.

I believe Pit is actually after Bowser.

Wolf, if I remember correctly, is unlocked through Classic. You can unlock Falcon with Fox, Falco with Falcon, Peach and Daisy with Falco, and then Wolf with Peach. That’s the only way I know of unlocking him

Pardon the dumb question but I must know: will unlocking a character in World of Light also unlock them in the main game?

 

[Bionichute]

Pardon the dumb question but I must know: will unlocking a character in World of Light also unlock them in the main game?

yes they will be unlocked as soon as you exit world of light

 

[Deleted member]

Those 2 games were developed by completely different companies. The only thing they really have in common is the Dragon Ball IP.
That's not the case with Smash.

True, but if you want a more accurate example I can still think of one.

If you played Pokemon X/Y postgame and went to all the hotels, you'd find a hiker who hinted at a new region and gave you a tiki head totem to hint at it. In other words, Gamefreak was already working on Sun & Moon by the end of X/Y.

The same can be said of just about every Final Fantasy. Heck, FF XIII, FFXV, and some other one (a mobile one I think?) were all being developed simultaneously by Square.

I don't think it's uncommon for companies to be looking forward to the next game in its entirety soon after finishing the previous.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

yes they will be unlocked as soon as you exit world of light

That settles it. I'm doing World of Light first, then every classic mode. Should last me a solid week and a half between classes

 

[Bionichute]

That settles it. I'm doing World of Light first, then every classic mode. Should last me a solid week and a half between classes

you unlock characters until the absolute end of world of light, as in a character is right next to the final boss on the map

that week and a half could probably just be spent on world of light alone

 

[Zinith]

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[SnakeFighter64]

you unlock characters until the absolute end of world of light, as in a character is right next to the final boss on the map

that week and a half could probably just be spent on world of light alone

It's really THAT long! I figured it was going to be like at most 12 hours.

Any idea of how hard it is. Remember, your talking to a non-competitive player who usually plays against easy cpus.

 

[Luigifan18]

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The day 1 patch can't come soon enough.

 

[Idon]

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Who's ready for 4 more years of more Yoshi not working correctly!

 

[FreeFox]

Trying to think of more digimon music that could be in smash

Not really some outstanding tunes from Digimon Dusk and Dawn although a remix could help

Havent played cyber sleuth yet but im certain theres plenty of good tracks there

Here are a couple I like from that game:

 

[Nekoo]

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That's funny but at least it hit somewhere and somehow, still wish it gets fixed.
Lucina and Marth still haves their dumb blindspots hitbox where it visually hit hard the Characters but does nothing on B-air and and Up-airs

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair tmk outside of Azura Corrin isn't actually related to any of them. The kids thing really depends honestly because the whole point of age of consent isn't the number itself but being considered mature enough to fully understand sexual relations and its consequences which is why it's not a consistent thing from place to place.

I don't know all the ages of the characters that can be married though so not sure to begin with.

I mean if they think that those people are their siblings and they still **** the "siblings" then they're still performing what they assume to be incest aren't they. And ****ing your cousin is still incest

And age of consent is typically when a person is considered mature enough to understand what they are consenting to, and by that I mean when their brains have matured enough. The reason why you can't have sex with children is because, physically, their brains are not mature. The frontal lobe just straight up hasn't fully developed yet past the point of "maybe I shouldn't do this". Just because someone is a child soldier (I'm assuming bc you said that they're part of a war) doesn't change that fact, does it?

 

[FreeFox]

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Since the game isnt out yet and there is a patch on the way, I wouldnt take this as final.

 

[praline]

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Yep, that’s definitely never gonna be patched ever in Ultimate. Might as well not main Yoshi now.

 

[DraginHikari]

Could anybody tell me, without bias, why Corrin is a bad character? Anybody.

The thing is, I don't think the idea behind Corrin's character is bad in concept, a prince who is kidnapped at a young age and is befriended and adopted by the children of his kidnappers as a sibling only to be caught up in a war between two nations he has a connection to.

The problem is the execution, Corrin suffers for many of the same reasons that many characters in Fates have issues. Too much attention is put specifically on Corrin to the point where it doesn't seem like he has grown or do all that much throughout the story. He's more of a plot device then he is an actual person and his mistakes rarely ever come back to bite him. He's basically an official fan fiction self-insert character in quite a few ways.

To Corrin defense though, almost every major character in Fates suffers from similar development problems. Character behavior in their supports contradicts what they do in the main story, the split into multiple stories leaves massive holes in every plot, and without some of the downloadable content certain things fail to make sense. Fates story suffers a lot from 'Good ideas but lousy execution’.

The thing is I enjoy Fates as Fire Emblem game, I just don't know if I could say I enjoyed Fates as a Fire Emblem story.

 

[PsySmasher]

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Well... RIP Yoshi mains. There's a good 70% chance that will never be patched.
I know what's it's like to main a broken character... trust me on that one.

 

[Yonder]

The day 1 patch can't come soon enough.

I don't think it's gonna be caught at this point in the day 1 patch, if identified this late in.

 

[Deleted member]

Yep, that’s definitely never gonna be patched ever in Ultimate. Might as well not main Yoshi now.

Who would win?

A game made by a dev team that puts so much love and care into every single one of it's 74 fighters and 103 stages?

VS

One example of a hitbox of one specific move from one specific character not connecting against another specific character in pirated footage of a non-final build of that game?

 

[Paperchampion23]

The day 1 patch can't come soon enough.

Yeah, too bad Day -3 ruined the game. The nerve on Sakurai

 

[GhostYB]

remember pre patch smash 4? you guys are too quick to judge smh

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

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THATS WHAT THE LEAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT!

“Trust me it will be glitchy at launch”

I smell upcoming modes and bosses for patch udpates

 

[TheCJBrine]

I mean if they think that those people are they're siblings and they still **** the "siblings" then they're still performing what they assume to be incest aren't they. And ****ing your cousin is still incest

And age of consent is typically when a person is considered mature enough to understand what they are consenting to, and by that I mean when their brains have matured enough. The reason why you can't have sex with children is because, physically, their brains are not mature. The frontal lobe just straight up hasn't fully developed yet past the point of "maybe I shouldn't do this". Just because someone is a child soldier (I'm assuming bc you said that they're part of a war) doesn't change that fact, does it?

woah woah woah I thought Fire Emblem was a Nintendo game

corrin is still best smash bros. gal

 

[Deleted member]

So what's this I heard about Yuri Lowell?

Can someone explain the context?

 

[DraginHikari]

woah woah woah I thought Fire Emblem was a Nintendo game

It's also a game made in a country with different view on consent laws compared to many western countries from my understanding.

So what's this I heard about Yuri Lowell?

Can someone explain the context?

Insiders are claiming Lloyd Irving and Yuri Lowell have come up in conversations related to DLC but there is nothing to confirm anything absolutely.

 

[Deleted member]

woah woah woah I thought Fire Emblem was a Nintendo game

corrin is still best smash bros. gal

Bayonetta 2 was a Nintendo exclusive, nothing is off the table at this point

weird way to spell alttp zelda but go off i guess

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

remember pre patch smash 4? you guys are too quick to judge smh

What, you mean Sonic killing Bowser with back throw at 40% wasn't balanced? C'monnnnn

 

[Paperchampion23]

So what's this I heard about Yuri Lowell?

Can someone explain the context?

Lloyd and Yuri are allegedly competing for a Tales of spot for Bamco. Use the word "competing" loosely, as one would obviously be chosen this late into the process if true.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

So what's this I heard about Yuri Lowell?

Can someone explain the context?

Look at the post linked in my signature.

 

[Idon]

So what's this I heard about Yuri Lowell?

Can someone explain the context?

TL;DR
Rumors/Leaks of a DLC character being a
"Shill pick"
Tales of Vespiria remaster coming out on multiple platforms soon.
That "Isn't that bad"
Lowell already has a big fan following
And starts with "Y"
Yuri Lowell