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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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If you want to troll Mario players, just get good with Kirby and use him (it's very hard, he's low tier).
Especially his Final Cutter, I trolled so many Marios trying to use the cape on my cutter except that if I hit them directly with the blade it has no effect.
At least in Smash 4.

After falling back to 35% of win rate, I grinded back to 50% and then I stopped playing because it's too frustrating; though in the last week I improved a lot and I even managed to defeat some Clouds and Bayonettas. (I ended with about 70% win rate in the last 100 matches).

At first I was completely helpless against some characters (such as Donkey Kong, Pacman and Megaman), but I eventually learned how to fight them. Except Megaman because he has so much variety of long range attacks that even if you play better than him, he still damages you a lot and it will most likely KO you before you manage to KO him. Corrin/Shulk/Link/Toon Link are also very strong against Kirby, especially Toon Link, but Toon Link can be killed at relatively low % at least; I remember Corrin and Shulk being easier to defeat, probably they became harder to defeat after the several patches.
Anyway, in most cases it depends on the player, but I think that Mario was one of the characters I had least problems with, along with maybe Cpt Falcon.
On a side note, fighting against Ganondorf is a torture.... you can win easily if you are careful enough, but just 1 error and he can kill you in 3 moves (playing as Kirby); King Dedede and Bowser are similar cases, King Dedede being harder because of the bigger range and Gordo spam, but it's also likely that the player will mess up things or get a Gordo reflected in the face, making the fight a bit easier occasionally.
The most fair battles were against the Marths (and derivates, Roy, Lucina); copying Marth's and Lucina's ability is very helpful.
Ohh, I almost forgot, a good Robin is untouchable against Kirby... you have literally no way to even get close to him... or at least, I have never been able to. I only won once against a Robin but the player was a noob.

lastly, inhaling a Bayonetta while she's trying to ram at you to start the combo of doom is priceless.

That's just my personal experience.
I’ll try that then.
 

Flyboy

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I'm really really happy there's a Kyle Hyde spirit in Smash and I can use .EXE as an icon.
You and me both. I never even considered that Kyle Hyde would make it in Smash until he popped up during the direct. Same with Ashley Robbins. So great to see those classic series' represented. Just wish EXE's costume was still in.
 

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If you want to troll Mario players, just get good with Kirby and use him (it's very hard, he's low tier).
Especially his Final Cutter, I trolled so many Marios trying to use the cape on my cutter except that if I hit them directly with the blade it has no effect.
At least in Smash 4.

After falling back to 35% of win rate, I grinded back to 50% and then I stopped playing because it's too frustrating; though in the last week I improved a lot and I even managed to defeat some Clouds and Bayonettas. (I ended with about 70% win rate in the last 100 matches).

At first I was completely helpless against some characters (such as Donkey Kong, Pacman and Megaman), but I eventually learned how to fight them. Except Megaman because he has so much variety of long range attacks that even if you play better than him, he still damages you a lot and it will most likely KO you before you manage to KO him. Corrin/Shulk/Link/Toon Link are also very strong against Kirby, especially Toon Link, but Toon Link can be killed at relatively low % at least; I remember Corrin and Shulk being easier to defeat, probably they became harder to defeat after the several patches.
Anyway, in most cases it depends on the player, but I think that Mario was one of the characters I had least problems with, along with maybe Cpt Falcon.
On a side note, fighting against Ganondorf is a torture.... you can win easily if you are careful enough, but just 1 error and he can kill you in 3 moves (playing as Kirby); King Dedede and Bowser are similar cases, King Dedede being harder because of the bigger range and Gordo spam, but it's also likely that the player will mess up things or get a Gordo reflected in the face, making the fight a bit easier occasionally.
The most fair battles were against the Marths (and derivates, Roy, Lucina); copying Marth's and Lucina's ability is very helpful.
Ohh, I almost forgot, a good Robin is untouchable against Kirby... you have literally no way to even get close to him... or at least, I have never been able to. I only won once against a Robin but the player was a noob.

lastly, inhaling a Bayonetta while she's trying to ram at you to start the combo of doom is priceless.

That's just my personal experience.
I love seeing people's utter confusion when they go up against someone who's good with a low-tier.
 

Cosmic77

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Was anyone else kind of hoping that there would be more alt costumes then there ended up being? I was kind of hoping for stuff like a James McCloud alt and a Captain K. Rool. Also a little upset they got rid of the fireflower mario.
Well, the number of alt costumes is a lot better than past Smash games. I sure wasn't expecting Builder Mario/Wedding Mario, Hero of the Wild Link, Female Pikachu/Pikachu Libre, Female PT, Villagers of color, and Meta Ridley.

The only thing we didn't get that I was kind of expecting is Splatoon 2 hairstyles for the Inklings, but I'm satisfied with what we got.
 

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Was anyone else kind of hoping that there would be more alt costumes then there ended up being? I was kind of hoping for stuff like a James McCloud alt and a Captain K. Rool. Also a little upset they got rid of the fireflower mario.
Not really. We still got a decent amount and there's no point of trying to force alt costumes to every character like Project M did.
 
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TMNTSSB4

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Capcom? More like Crapcom.
Oh wait, Mega Man is in Smash now... Uhm, Snake got cut.
Konami? More like ****onami.
Oh, Snake is back and there's a ****ton of Castlevania content now... well, FF only has two songs so...
Square Enix? More like... Stingy Enix! Ha, got em!
What about Sega, indies, and Namco?
We still should've got What I'm Made Of back in Brawl
That also
All that matters is that we've got Escape from the City...
You right
So about the music... I just looked at the full list and noticed that
Princess Peach's Castle (Melee) is missing despite the stage being in the game
and I'm just confused by this decision. Also, I was hoping for a remix of Inside the Castle Walls from Super Mario 64...oh well.
has to be some bull****
 

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If Steve is in will that weird bending over thing become a taunt?

I hope so, so I can spam it and hate myself for doing it.
 
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Just think. 10 days ago, we were 20 days away from Smash.
A year ago, we were 375 days away, even.

Man, linear time is pretty standard.
 
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That was my most wanted stage to return. Well, that and Sector Z since it's much bigger than Corneria
I mostly wanted Brinstar Depths, Super Mario Maker, Saffron City, Pac-Maze and Mute City (Melee) to return.

The only ones that i didn’t get were the last two.
 

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What you guys are playing while waiting for SSBU?

Right now just bought n sane trilogy on a sale, and Im playing that on my switch.

Good game to remember my childhood, i think they did a great job remaking those games.
 

Flyboy

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What you guys are playing while waiting for SSBU?

Right now just bought n sane trilogy on a sale, and Im playing that on my switch.

Good game to remember my childhood, i think they did a great job remaking those games.
Minecraft. That's not a joke, my roommate got me into it and it's been a great way to unwind after work. I also got DK Tropical Freeze among others from the recent eShop sale, and Puyo Puyo Tetris is always in my heavy rotation.
 

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What you guys are playing while waiting for SSBU?

Right now just bought n sane trilogy on a sale, and Im playing that on my switch.

Good game to remember my childhood, i think they did a great job remaking those games.
I am personally playing Spyro Reignited Triology on another console, if that is okay. Great game, I should say.
 

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We'll likely learn who the SE rep is anywhere from January - March
If Square Enix does get another rep I believe it will be a Dragon Quest character. I think it will be Erdrick the Hero from Dragon Quest III. Plus, I'd love to see this troll moment play out.

Sakurai: We have a very special guest to introduce this next character, please introduce yourself.

"Hey there I'm Akira Toriyama, creator of the hit Manga sereis, Dragon Ball. I designed this character and worked extra hard with Sakurai to make him fit in with Smash. Please take a look!" *close up of Erdrick's face that slowly out*
Dq3hero-dqv.jpg


̶G̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶L̶i̶n̶k̶ :4duckhunt:
 
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What you guys are playing while waiting for SSBU?

Right now just bought n sane trilogy on a sale, and Im playing that on my switch.

Good game to remember my childhood, i think they did a great job remaking those games.
Glad that you enjoyed it!

At the moment, i am trying to beat Tropical Freeze, while also playing the Metroid Prime Trilogy+Hunters, Samus Returns’ Fusion Mode, the Platinum relics on the N.Sane Trilogy, Reignited Trilogy and Super Castlevania 4.
 

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I'm still annoyed they brought back Pac-Land over Pac-Maze.
I'm still annoyed people still blaming Pac-Land because of the absence of Pac-Maze.

It was most likely new stage requirements that prevented it from returning. Sonic got two, I doubt they had to choose one of them.
 

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What you guys are playing while waiting for SSBU?

Right now just bought n sane trilogy on a sale, and Im playing that on my switch.

Good game to remember my childhood, i think they did a great job remaking those games.
Dragon Ball Fighterz. It's the other fighting game that I'm trying to get better at.

On the mobile side, I'm playing Fire Emblem Heroes, although I'm holding off playing it too much until Book 3 comes out.
 
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