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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Ramen Tengoku

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1064528519068377088
Something to note. Apparently Cloud was THE last veteran to add to the roster. Square Enix is known to be stingy, but this is interesting to note.
Also if you look through Stealths tweets, 700 Spirits is the total and there are No Square Enix Spirits out of the 500 known.

And before some goes 'But GENO!!!' They were shown as a battle icon for online NOT a Spirit.

Things are getting interesting.
Square is still being Square huh?
 

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And Codec's arent? HMMMM INTERESTING! GEE I WONDER WHAT INFLUENCED THAT DECISION?!
Assuming that the Japanese voice actors weren't the issue, it's probably the fact that they could carry over most Guidance recordings from Smash 4, but let's go ahead and blame Sakubias anyway.
 

osby

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1064528519068377088
Something to note. Apparently Cloud was THE last veteran to add to the roster. Square Enix is known to be stingy, but this is interesting to note.
Also if you look through Stealths tweets, 700 Spirits is the total and there are No Square Enix Spirits out of the 500 known.

And before some goes 'But GENO!!!' They were shown as a battle icon for online NOT a Spirit.

Things are getting interesting.
"Just" 700 Spirits?
 

ThatOneAnon

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1064528519068377088
Something to note. Apparently Cloud was THE last veteran to add to the roster. Square Enix is known to be stingy, but this is interesting to note.
Also if you look through Stealths tweets, 700 Spirits is the total and there are No Square Enix Spirits out of the 500 known.

And before some goes 'But GENO!!!' They were shown as a battle icon for online NOT a Spirit.

Things are getting interesting.
Yeaaaah...Vergeben was wrong. We ain’t getting a new SE rep.
 

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1064528519068377088
Something to note. Apparently Cloud was THE last veteran to add to the roster. Square Enix is known to be stingy, but this is interesting to note.
Also if you look through Stealths tweets, 700 Spirits is the total and there are No Square Enix Spirits out of the 500 known.

And before some goes 'But GENO!!!' They were shown as a battle icon for online NOT a Spirit.

Things are getting interesting.
Argue me why they would only make him an online icon for online mode specifically and not a spirit.

 

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She's specifically a Fighter Spirit.

We've seen alternate versions of the playable cast as equipable Spirits, but no straight up "this character who is also playable can be equipped as a spirit".
how much money do you wanna put on this
:denzel: Because you'd be losing a lot
 

Wiziliz

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We still don't know all the Classic Modes and all of World of Light.
Hell, we don't even know all the new guidances.
I know, but I was looking forward to the wonderful surprise of seeing Palutena's Guidance return when I went to the stage and tried it.
 

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Assuming that the Japanese voice actors weren't the issue, it's probably the fact that they could carry over most Guidance recordings from Smash 4, but let's go ahead and blame Sakubias anyway.
I missed my exam because of Sakubias. If only there was less FE/KI/Kirby/whatever is hip to hate these days in Ultimate.
 
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1064528519068377088
Something to note. Apparently Cloud was THE last veteran to add to the roster. Square Enix is known to be stingy, but this is interesting to note.
Also if you look through Stealths tweets, 700 Spirits is the total and there are No Square Enix Spirits out of the 500 known.

And before some goes 'But GENO!!!' They were shown as a battle icon for online NOT a Spirit.

Things are getting interesting.
Is there really any difference between Geno being a battle icon and a Spirit? Nintendo had to get permission either way.

Yeaaaah...Vergeben was wrong. We ain’t getting a new SE rep.
With SE, who knows at this point. Watch us barely get another SE character with one stage and two tracks.
 
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...the colonel's voice actor being dead?
I think Colonel's Japanese VA is still around, but even then, Ultimate is a universal build and not like how Brawl was segmented for other countries, so I see Colonel's English VA not around anymore being the biggest problem for Codecs.

I mean, you can't really get mad, but it does suck all around. :/
 

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Anyway are we all pretty much in agreement that a Fire Emblem rep is pretty much a given?

Who here is an Edelgard main?

The plus side of making this post is that if I'm right, I'm right, and if I'm wrong, then I get my preferred timeline. Not that Edelgard wouldn't be nice.
 
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You know, I don't think being a Spirit makes it impossible for a character to be DLC. They can always just remove the spirit after adding the new character. If it is a World of Light spirit, they can just replace the spot where you got the spirit with a spot where you can fight the actual character. And since there are hundreds upon hundreds of Spirits, losing one doesn't make a major difference to the game overall.

So I don't think being a spirit deconfirms a character's DLC potential, but I do think that people should temper their expectations.

I think if we have a franchise represented by spirits, but not a fighter, and there is a major character from that franchise not represented as a spirit in the game, such characters are the most likely DLC candidates. For example, we've seen several rabbids as spirits - has anyone seen Rayman?

If Rayman is not in the game as a spirit, I think he'd be very likely as DLC.
 

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>Taking Stealth__ Seriously in our year of lord and saviour Ridley of 2018

What else? We claim that the chairs are real and that LoZ had a private demo with Skull Kid playable?
 

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1064528519068377088
Something to note. Apparently Cloud was THE last veteran to add to the roster. Square Enix is known to be stingy, but this is interesting to note.
Also if you look through Stealths tweets, 700 Spirits is the total and there are No Square Enix Spirits out of the 500 known.

And before some goes 'But GENO!!!' They were shown as a battle icon for online NOT a Spirit.

Things are getting interesting.
this i like.
 

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It's hard to miss these kind of things. It's like when you search up a show that you're watching, and the search engine tells you a character death.
In my opinion, knowing they're here doesn't spoil them. As long as I don't know the actual contents it's fine.
 

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Doubted Verge twice before and was he was proven right so I'm gonna believe him until he gets something wrong.
But I'm kinda starting to think there was a miscommunication and his square rep is just Cloud
 

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Anyway are we all pretty much in agreement that a Fire Emblem rep is pretty much a given?

Who here is an Edelgard main?

The plus side of making this post is that if I'm right, I'm right, and if I'm wrong, then I get my preferred timeline. Not that Edelgard wouldn't be nice.
I don't think we'll get a Fire Emblem newcomer as DLC, but if we do get Edelgard... I hope we'll get Byleth as a Marth clone.

plus one more FE stage
 

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Didn’t Stealth admit to shilling for Nintendo in a desperate attempt to get hired by them?
I’m sorry, but the evidence is piling up at this point.


I'm sorry what? That's bull**** there, if he was successful, and then he would be insider that tried to leak some things but will get fired shortly from nintendo when he was caught leaking some private informations related to future games.
 

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I think Colonel's Japanese VA is still around, but even then, Ultimate is a universal build and not like how Brawl was segmented for other countries, so I see Colonel's English VA not around anymore being the biggest problem for Codecs.

I mean, you can't really get mad, but it does suck all around. :/
Paul Eiding is still alive, the Japanese one is the one that died.
 
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You know what?
Why the **** does Square still own Geno?
Nintendo is an infinitely bigger company. It wouldn't cost too much just to buy rights to A FEW ****ING CHARACTERS. Oh, especially those that ARE ONLY IN A ****ING MARIO GAME.
 

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In my opinion, knowing they're here doesn't spoil them. As long as I don't know the actual contents it's fine.
Fair enough. I think the little things add to the game quite a bit though, and I like finding those little things myself.
 

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Do you guys realize that thinking that there no Square-Enix rep makes no sense in the timeline since the information about a second Rep was after Smash Ultimate reveals around august right?
 

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Argue me why they would only make him an online icon for online mode specifically and not a spirit.

This is no fight friend. I am not gonna rule it out that he could be a Spirit.
Until we see him equipped onto the Mii Gunner with the Geno Costume on shooting rainbows out of his mouth, it is technically still up in the air.

Also I am just happy to know that Geno could be the ONLY Square Spirit.
 
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