Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[IntelliHeath1]

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[Tree Gelbman]

I wish Sakurai and Pokemon company would get more adventurous with Pokemon reps.

Let's see weird **** like Detective Pikachu.

Or adding Team Rocket.

Or Pokemon Ranger content.

A random out there Pokemon that isn't a starter but has a ton of potential.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Banjo fans "grieving" would just remind me of that one tweet. Replace Ashley with Banjo and Castlevania with Minecraft or hopefully Halo.

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This is funny to me. Castlevania is almost objectively more important to gaming than WarioWare, and WarioWare actually has a character, two stages, a bunch of music, an assist trophy, etc.

 

[KiBom]

Also I wish Sakurai and Pokemon company would get more adventurous with Pokemon reps.

Let's see weird **** like Detective Pikachu.

Or adding Team Rocket.

Or Pokemon Ranger content.

A random out there Pokemon that isn't a starter but has a ton of potential.

I mean Jigglypuff was almost Meowth in 64.

 

[Will]

That's the level of salt every popcorn should strive for.

It only gets worse from that point on. He literally said he'll kill Sakurai for not putting Ashley in.

 

[Kholdstare]

Who would win:

- some singing girl
- the guy who killed Dracula, the Scion of Darkness

 

[ClaTheBae]

The Pokemon Let's Go games are a prime example of this. In the hardcore gamers' circles, it seemed like Let's Go would flop. But then it released and copies are sold out everywhere because, lo and behold, there are other people in the world.

Our community is a smaller piece of the pie than we often believe.

As much as i dislike the game, I'm not the audience for it and neither are any other more "hardcore" gamers.
I do see many design choice of the game as an insult to my intelligence but I get that they want to capitalize off of children and the casual crowd

 

[Deleted member]

Banjo fans "grieving" would just remind me of that one tweet. Replace Ashley with Banjo and Castlevania with Minecraft or hopefully Halo.

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Wow. The stupidity in this post is amazing.

It only gets worse from that point on. He literally said he'll kill Sakurai for not putting Ashley in.

Ah, and he's a pyschopath! Wonderful. Truly.

 

[kirbsmash]

I wish Sakurai and Pokemon company would get more adventurous with Pokemon reps.

Let's see weird **** like Detective Pikachu.

Or adding Team Rocket.

Or Pokemon Ranger content.

A random out there Pokemon that isn't a starter but has a ton of potential.

No...bigger.....an HUMAN from Pokemon.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Sounds like that's someone else's job to represent.

A job he may never get now, unless Sakurai is completely dedicated to keeping the playstyles of echos as close to what they started. Why would you waste time promoting an assist trophy when you have a fighter who already can just be the Mario spin-off rep?

 

[Iridium]

Banjo fans "grieving" would just remind me of that one tweet. Replace Ashley with Banjo and Castlevania with Minecraft or hopefully Halo.

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Gonna have to disregard anyone who thinks Castlevania is dead. Literally just had to look at the first line.

I really couldn't resist.

 

[Dee Dude]

Banjo fans "grieving" would just remind me of that one tweet. Replace Ashley with Banjo and Castlevania with Minecraft or hopefully Halo.

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Atleast Banjo-Kazooie is it’s own series.

Ashely was literally a side character of a side character’s spin-off series branch of the main one.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Banjo fans "grieving" would just remind me of that one tweet. Replace Ashley with Banjo and Castlevania with Minecraft or hopefully Halo.

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It's not even a dead franchise, making that bit heavily wrong. It's been active for a while now, having its own animated show. Could be better with new regular games, though. Never mind being an iconic series.

I want Ashley in too, but jeez. -_-

 

[osby]

It only gets worse from that point on. He literally said he'll kill Sakurai for not putting Ashley in.

I wish I was suprised.

No...bigger.....an HUMAN from Pokemon.

You have Pokemon Trainer

 

[Gentlepanda]

I've been saying it for some time, and since we're talking DLC now, I'll say it again:

One of the Fighters Pass characters will be from a Nintendo-published game we don't know exists yet.

In the Switch's lifetime, Nintendo has made an effort to not show off some of their biggest winter releases until the E3 prior. If this trend continues, that means that there's some big blockbuster coming this E3 of which we're unaware. Since DLC work has only just begun, and a game releasing next winter is certainly entering its final phase of development, the timing is ripe for Nintendo to put a newcomer from this unknown game into Ultimate as promotion. Imagine, say, a new franchise like Splatoon being announced at E3, only to be followed up with a Smash trailer starring that same brand new character.

EDIT: Oh hey, 2600 posts on the nose. Neat.

Honestly--and maybe I'll be wrong in a year's time--I think this is very unlikely, if you're referring to a brand new IP. It took Inklings three years after their debut to get in, and all Splatoon got in Smash 4 was a Mii costume and a trophy. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a new IP would get a similar kind of representation, but if the reaction Corrin (coming from an already-established franchise in Smash) was a precedent (and we know for certain that there are limited DLC 'slots' this time), then people would lash out and despise them. Plus, including someone from something that might not even pan out to be a critical or commercial success would just be a bizarre business strategy, even from the advertising angle.

 

[Will]

A job he may never get now, unless Sakurai is completely dedicated to keeping the playstyles of echos as close to what they started. Why would you waste time promoting an assist trophy when you have a fighter who already can just be the Mario spin-off rep?

Because Echoes are easy to develop, ergo why Waluigi can't be plopped in for ease of development.

Also, Dark Samus arguably has it worse. The only Echo that's fine as is is Richter because that's literally his moveset.

 

[Grunky Peep]

I mean Jigglypuff was almost Meowth in 64.

There's actually no evidence to prove that Meowth was ever planned for 64. It's just a rumor.

 

[staindgrey]

Banjo fans "grieving" would just remind me of that one tweet. Replace Ashley with Banjo and Castlevania with Minecraft or hopefully Halo.

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The funny thing is, in all this long-winded debate of Banjo versus Steve over the past few months, I think I've convinced myself into wanting Halo instead.

I don't care about Steve, and Banjo & Kazooie was a game I liked as a kid. But Halo is a game I spent many weekend nights huddled around multiple TVs propped up on an old pool table to play capture the flag before passing out four Mountain Dews later to the looping Halo 2 theme song because none of us could be bothered to turn off the Xbox on the far side of the table. Halo 5 may have sucked and the series may be overstaying its welcome in a post-Bungie world, but it's a ****ing pillar of gaming and I'm suddenly all in on having Mario, Mega Man, Cloud Strife and Master ****ing Chief in the same game.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Let's see weird **** like Detective Pikachu.

I don't think people would like Pikachu having TWO clones who are joke characters. Remember, Detective Pikachu can't attack. The only way he would work if he's like Villager/Isabelle or WFT and most of his attacks don't look like attacks.

 

[ClaTheBae]

No...bigger.....an HUMAN from Pokemon.

even bigger, an ANIMAL from Pokemon. Thats right...

I'm talking about Bird on Weepinbell Card

 

[Grunky Peep]

It only gets worse from that point on. He literally said he'll kill Sakurai for not putting Ashley in.

I feel bad for Ashley fans. This piece of **** destroyed their entire reputation.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

The thing is that WarioWare doesn't hold a candle to Castlevania in terms of overall popularity and Castlevania is a much bigger icon. I love WarioWare but its the truth.

 

[Will]

The funny thing is, in all this long-winded debate of Banjo versus Steve over the past few months, I think I've convinced myself into wanting Halo instead.

I don't care about Steve, and Banjo & Kazooie was a game I liked as a kid. But Halo is a game I spent many weekend nights huddled around multiple TVs propped up on an old pool table to play capture the flag before passing out four Mountain Dews later to the looping Halo 2 theme song because none of us could be bothered to turn off the Xbox on the far side of the table. Halo 5 may have sucked and the series may be overstaying its welcome in a post-Bungie world, but it's a ****ing pillar of gaming and I'm suddenly all in on having Mario, Mega Man, Cloud Strife and Master ****ing Chief in the same game.

Welcome to the Chad #TeamHalo

 

[Deleted member]

Who would win:

- some singing girl
- the guy who killed Dracula, the Scion of Darkness

Black Canary.

 

[kirbsmash]

do halo got bara dudes?

 

[Will]

I feel bad for Ashley fans. This piece of **** destroyed their entire reputation.

Deconfirmation is basically Raiden's berserk mode in MGS:R but for literally any fanbase.

They just go like a beyblade and let 'er rip.

do halo got bara dudes?

John is technically bara

 

[Deleted member]

The funny thing is, in all this long-winded debate of Banjo versus Steve over the past few months, I think I've convinced myself into wanting Halo instead.

I don't care about Steve, and Banjo & Kazooie was a game I liked as a kid. But Halo is a game I spent many weekend nights huddled around multiple TVs propped up on an old pool table to play capture the flag before passing out four Mountain Dews later to the looping Halo 2 theme song because none of us could be bothered to turn off the Xbox on the far side of the table. Halo 5 may have sucked and the series may be overstaying its welcome in a post-Bungie world, but it's a ****ing pillar of gaming and I'm suddenly all in on having Mario, Mega Man, Cloud Strife and Master ****ing Chief in the same game.

If i get cool music with Master Chief, i would be fine.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I wish Sakurai and Pokemon company would get more adventurous with Pokemon reps.

Let's see weird **** like Detective Pikachu.

That'd be fun promotion for the movie... just add some Detective Pikachu alts with Ryan Reynold voice clips and sell them as DLC (I don't care that it'd basically be impossible due to Hollywood actor costs, but I can dream)

 

[Chandeelure]

even bigger, an ANIMAL from Pokemon. Thats right...

I'm talking about Bird on Weepinbell Card

That was one of my favorite cards, it's pretty.

 

[Dee Dude]

I feel bad for Ashley fans. This piece of **** destroyed their entire reputation.

What about Waluigi fans? Two trolls that Sakurai simply blocked destroyed their rep all over the internet.

 

[Guynamednelson]

That'd be fun promotion for the movie... just add some Detective Pikachu alts with Ryan Reynold voice clips and sell them as DLC (I don't care that it'd basically be impossible due to Hollywood actor costs, but I can dream)

Sure, a DP alt could work. He just wouldn't work as a separate fighter. (Yes, I know he said "I will electrocute you!" in the trailer, but the movie was mostly made when the crew couldn't play the game.)

 

[Deleted member]

I feel bad for Ashley fans. This piece of **** destroyed their entire reputation.

The same can be said for Waluigi fans.

Two people made ******** and edgy posts to Sakurai, and now a lot of people feel like they should live like witches on the Middle Age.

I’m not a Waluigi fan, but i know a lot of them online who are way better persons than the ones “defending” Sakurai by attacking them.

 

[Deleted member]

Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to thing Ashley has a better chance/deserves to be in more than Simon? You'd have to be game journalist levels of stupid to think that.

The funny thing is, in all this long-winded debate of Banjo versus Steve over the past few months, I think I've convinced myself into wanting Halo instead.

I don't care about Steve, and Banjo & Kazooie was a game I liked as a kid. But Halo is a game I spent many weekend nights huddled around multiple TVs propped up on an old pool table to play capture the flag before passing out four Mountain Dews later to the looping Halo 2 theme song because none of us could be bothered to turn off the Xbox on the far side of the table. Halo 5 may have sucked and the series may be overstaying its welcome in a post-Bungie world, but it's a ****ing pillar of gaming and I'm suddenly all in on having Mario, Mega Man, Cloud Strife and Master ****ing Chief in the same game.

If by the thinnest of margins we get the Chief in Smash, I hope he'll come with more than two music tracks. *looks at Cloud*

 

[ClaTheBae]

That was one of my favorite cards, it's pretty.

the inclusion of an actual animal confused me so much

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Master Chief vs Dovahkiin, mom’s gonna freak.

 

[Grunky Peep]

What about Waluigi fans? Two trolls that Sakurai simply blocked destroyed their rep all over the internet.

It only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.

 

[Will]

If i get cool music with Master Chief, i would be fine.

If I literally just had this I'd be fine with it.

 

[kirbsmash]

Well then, team Halo.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It only gets worse from that point on. He literally said he'll kill Sakurai for not putting Ashley in.

So First waluigi fans and now Ashley fans.

 

[Deleted member]

Master Chief vs Dovahkiin, mom’s gonna freak.

If we get Dragonborn, the reactions should better be close or more intense than this.