Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CaptainAmerica]

Gonna miss these Ridley alts.

Too bad they were placeholders.

Too bad we can't just get more alts. I'm gonna miss Fire Mario as well. Not to mention that there are loads of possible Link/Zelda/Dorf ones using their previous looks.

DLC costumes when?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

> Million Arthur in Smash

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We finally hit the bottom of the barrel, huh?

To be fair, she showed up in SNK Heroines, so unlike Katalina she has SOME Western exposure…

As far as mobile characters go though.

Spoiler

What if we actually get Cooking Mama in the end? Her most recent games are on mobile phones, it's been a bit since she's been on a Ninty console.

 

[R O F L]

I haven't read every page so it might've already been posted, but past just Zero's impressions, this chart amalgamates his with Nairo's, Abadango's, Marcbri's, and Dabuz'.

As someone who has one character in average, two in strong, and then five in the top two, I'd be all smiles with this.

My boy olimar is at the top, yay.

But my boys little mac, kirby and Jr. are at the bottom,

 

[Mogisthelioma]

The only change I've seen that legitimately pissed me off is that his down air no longer breaks shields. That's not enough to write him off entirely

Heck, dair shield melt was barely a major aspect to begin with. If anything, Yoshi may be better since you can reverse his down B, which leads to some interesting crossups and setups.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Super Castlevania IV
Order of Eccesia
Castlevania Chronicles
Symphony of the Night
Portrait of Ruin

Top 5 Castlevanias for me.

Cant do it as a top five but...

Favorite Metroidvanias- Symphony of the Night and Aria of Sorrow

Favorite 3d-vania- Lament of Innocence (havent played curse of darkness yet)

Favorite Classicvanias- Super Castlevania 4, Rondo of Blood, and Castlevania II



no not that one
This one:

 

[Bee Card]

Why's Rondo of Blood so good?

The gameplay is great, the levels too, the dramatisation, the gameplay, the anime style, the graphics, the bestiary, the gameplay, the gameplay, the gameplay and it came on the greatest console ever made : the PC-Engine.

 

[Noipoi]

If my boi ends up being high or even top tier this time around, will you acknowledge that all those high profile players were wrong about him?

I'm not involved in competitive play at all, so you're not getting anything outta me

Gonna miss these Ridley alts.

Too bad they were placeholders.

Aww, I kinda like White/Green Ridley...

 

[Zinith]

Heck, dair shield melt was barely a major aspect to begin with. If anything, Yoshi may be better since you can reverse his down B, which leads to some interesting crossups and setups.

Shield pressure was a great tool for my boi. At least Down B can still do that...

 

[Mogisthelioma]

I really wish people would stop sleeping on Dedede. He's been buffed in literally every way, there's no way he won't be at least D or C tier.

 

[RyuhoFox]

I remember that! It's almost as if GameFreak is encouraging it...

I mean this pokemon creates harems of males and tmk was inferred to be able to and willing to with human males as well so it's more than possible.

On the topic I stop at actual animals as well. Gotta be humonoid. Though I hold exceptions for some pokemon as while some are obvious analogues for animals others are humonoid or intelligent enough to be considered more than animals imo

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

who do I have to assult and kill to get Muramasa on switch?

 

[KMDP]

Too bad we can't just get more alts. I'm gonna miss Fire Mario as well. Not to mention that there are loads of possible Link/Zelda/Dorf ones using their previous looks.

DLC costumes when?

Nintendo provide all the Super Mario Odyssey Mario costumes and all the Yarn Yoshi costumes to Mario and Yoshi as paid DLC.

It prints money!

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Oh my god, I just thought of the worst scenario possible

The fact that Granblue was put on the table might mean that Nintendo is looking for a Gacha rep to appeal to the mobile game market. But what if that Gacha rep is the one and the same as the new Square rep and we're getting a character from the ****ing Million Arthur series

I'd rather stick with Katalina, as she's already kinda grown on me

Gonna miss these Ridley alts.

Too bad they were placeholders.

Quite a shame too... I would have loved the one on the right, as it would've made me feel like I was playing as a Xenomorph

 

[Zinith]

I'm not involved in competitive play at all, so you're not getting anything outta me

Well you were excited to see Pikachu and Inkling on top in that tier list, so you care a little bit

 

[Noipoi]

Well you were excited to see Pikachu and Inkling on top in that tier list, so you care a little bit

I do care a bit, but it's more like "hey, my character is good. now I can wreck my friend" as opposed too "hey, my character is good. now I can win a tournament"

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Yeah I saw that tier list thing. It reinforces the hearsay that Junior has gotten worse, although I've seen a reddit post detailing how he had improved in a lot of areas and the notion he was overall nerfed is an exaggeration. I certainly hope so.

I don't particularly desire a powerful fighter to use because any victories I acquire (all two that I'll probably get) are due to me using something "OP" (as someone who voted for Bayo in the Smash ballot and thus intends to play her frequently, I'm weary of that reaction). But I also don't want to be using a fighter that makes playing an uphill battle when I'm not exactly skilled enough to compensate so I get frustrated.

According to that list, Incineroar is average, which is a happy medium between those two outcomes so I'd be happy with that.

Interestingly Squirtle and Ivysaur are strong, with the Trainer overall ranked as strong. So good but not overbearingly so, which is also highly acceptable. Charizard is average, weaker than the others, pretty ironic. No way I wouldn't use all three playing Trainer though.

 

[DraginHikari]

Well you were excited to see Pikachu and Inkling on top in that tier list, so you care a little bit

Well, at the most the Tier list does influence which characters will be seen in tournaments from a spectator view I suppose.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

who do I have to assult and kill to get Muramasa on switch?

How about PS4 first of all, the port is consigned to the forsaken Vita.

Nintendo provide all the Super Mario Odyssey Mario costumes and all the Yarn Yoshi costumes to Mario and Yoshi as paid DLC.

It prints money!

Sakurai faints upon seeing the design plans.

 

[Zinith]

I do care a bit, but it's more like "hey, my character is good. now I can wreck my friend" as opposed too "hey, my character is good. now I can win a tournament"

I'm not a competitive player either, but I care enough about it as it either validates my boi being respected or crushes it...

 

[Noipoi]

I'm not a competitive player either, but I care enough about it as it either validates my boi being respected or crushes it...

I suppose so.
It would be nice to see a Yoshi or a Wario or a Dedede at a tournament. As opposed to Bayo and Diddy again.

 

[SmashChu]

Kos-Mos appears in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 along with t-Elos, so she's possible.

Problem is that if they are going to pick a Xeno character, they could either go with Rex or Elma who are both owned by Nintendo and are probably more popular nowadays. Plus, if Nintendo is picking it, they will probably prioritize their own characters.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't really get into competitive Smash that much, so tier lists mean nothing to me.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I do care a bit, but it's more like "hey, my character is good. now I can wreck my friend" as opposed too "hey, my character is good. now I can win a tournament"

I'd be lucky if my friend can care for the Switch beyond Pokémon Gen 8.

Otherwise, I wouldn't mind sparring with you guys.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

Y'all talking about your mains being top tier and I'm over here like
"Oh my boy is bottom??? Can't wait to kick all my friend's butts anyway and feel accomplished"

 

[Bee Card]

I suppose so.
It would be nice to see a Yoshi or a Wario or a Dedede at a tournament. As opposed to Bayo and Diddy again.

We need our top tier Pichu

 

[Noipoi]

We need our top tier Pichu

He's with Team Skull now, there's no way he can lose.

 

[Deleted member]

We need our top tier Pichu

What we need is our goddamn top tier Samus. 19 years!

 

[PsySmasher]

I haven't read every page so it might've already been posted, but past just Zero's impressions, this chart amalgamates his with Nairo's, Abadango's, Marcbri's, and Dabuz'.

As someone who has one character in average, two in strong, and then five in the top two, I'd be all smiles with this.

Let's see where all of the characters in my signature are. (bolded & colored refers to the ones I'm seriously planning to main/second)
- 1 is extremely strong (Lucina)
- 4 are very strong (Lucario, Mewtwo, Sonic, King K. Rool)
- 5 are strong (Corrin, Zelda, Wolf, Meta Knight, Inkling)
- 5 are average (Ridley, Ganondorf, Greninja, Pichu, Rosalina & Luma)
- 2 are weak (Jigglypuff, Pac-Man)
- 4 are very weak (Bowser Jr., Bowser, Palutena, Dark Samus)
- 1 is unknown (Piranha Plant)

Looks like my past mains aren't doing too well... fantastic. A lot of the characters that I second/play on occasion are looking really good
Lucario, Ganondorf, and Pichu are WAY higher than I though they would, especially Lucario (who was my tied for my Brawl 3rd along w/ Wolf).
Rosalina seemed to really drop off from Smash 4.
Overall, my mains/seconds are all over the place. This'll be interesting...

 

[Knight Dude]

Yeah, no one wants their character to outright trash. Here's to hoping Mega Man's still mid-tier at least. Though he seems to have some buffs anyway.

 

[TheCJBrine]

inb4 Pichu wins EVO.

 

[FirestormNeos]

How long have you been in a coma?

Long enough to not have been paying attention to K. Rool's moveset, apparently!

 

[Noipoi]

inb4 Pichu wins EVO.

Best possible timeline.

 

[KMDP]

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I mean this pokemon creates harems of males and tmk was inferred to be able to and willing to with human males as well so it's more than possible.

On the topic I stop at actual animals as well. Gotta be humonoid. Though I hold exceptions for some pokemon as while some are obvious analogues for animals others are humonoid or intelligent enough to be considered more than animals imo

*puts on Grammar Nazi costume* You mean "implied", "inferring" is something you do in response to implication. *takes off Grammar Nazi costume*

Salazzle and Tsareena are... interesting choices in design. Certainly more on the nose than Gardevoir was.

We need our top tier Pichu

The best timeline.

 

[Zinith]

Y'all know what my best timeline is...

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Best possible timeline.

No, that would be EVO ending with a mirror.

 

[Noipoi]

*puts on Grammar Nazi costume* You mean "implied", "inferring" is something you do in response to implication. *takes off Grammar Nazi costume*

Salazzle and Tsareena are... interesting choices in design. Certainly more on the nose than Gardevoir was.

Tsareena's weird, but I love it. I used one in my first playthrough and it kicked butt, it's earned a special place in my heart ever since.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Y'all talking about your mains being top tier and I'm over here like
"Oh my boy is bottom??? Can't wait to kick all my friend's butts anyway and feel accomplished"

If Pokemon Trainer is high tier like people expect, I'm really going to miss all of the positive attention I received for maining Zard.

I'm still really excited to see Zard be viable but I won't have that underdog status that I used to. Maybe I'll pick up a low tier as a secondary.

 

[Knight Dude]

Y'all know what my best timeline is...

I agree, Mega Man winning EVO. Let's go.

 

[Zinith]

I agree, Mega Man winning EVO. Let's go.

You say that as a joke, but Mega Man is like my 4th favorite character in Smash

 

[Noipoi]

You say that as a joke, but Mega Man is like my 4th favorite character in Smash

I wonder who the first is...