Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CallMeKnux]

wait **** my mistake sorry. ignore this lol

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

King Bulblin also.

Wait, he was shown as a legit boss? I only saw him in that one image where he's just next to Lumen Sage and Werewolf, and Werewolf is just a regular stage boss.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait, he was shown as a legit boss? I only saw him in that one image where he's just next to Lumen Sage and Werewolf, and Werewolf is just a regular stage boss.

Tbf Werewolf can also appear as a boss in World of Light, we don't know. It's just that it seems odd they'd use these specific characters for the icon. Though Werewolf should be replaced with Dracula

 

[Shroob]

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GODDAMN USELESS *** WEREWOLF I PAY HIM SO MUCH MONEY TO TAKE OUT BELMONT

Wait, what the heck is that thing under King Bulbin?

 

[SuperSceptile15]

Actually, Incineroar is pretty popular in Japan...
Watched some Japanese reactions, with a couple people thanking Sakurai for including Incineroar

I suppose the only logical explanation then is that 5ch users are just a vocal minority of Japanese Smash/Pokemon fans.

 

[Gyrom8]

I have a serious pet peeve with "fantasy=british," especially since the "classical" English accent isn't even as old as the United States. I hope this carries forward into any further Zelda games with voice acting.

I'm guessing your not a fan of "Ancient Rome = automatic British accents" either?

BOTW Zelda was okayish, at least it was better than whatever the hell they were trying to do with Mipha

 

[vaanrose]

You know... I keep looking at Galeem and get a sort Digimon-esque vibe from it.

If people don't get what I mean, there have been some very weird Digimon designs.

Spoiler

Galeem gives me some serious Safer Sephiroth vibes.

 

[Will]

Wasn't werewolf a boss in Rondo of Blood?

Wait, what the heck is that thing under King Bulbin?

I'm assuming you never played TP. That's his mighty steed.

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

Wait, what the heck is that thing under King Bulbin?

His sweet ride.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Galeem gives me some serious Safer Sephiroth vibes.

That is such a JRPG name holy ****. There's nothing SAFER about this dude

 

[PsySmasher]

Good LORD

OOF. RIP Ken.

The big boi has a Ganon spike.

And an almost uncharged FSmash killing Ken around 70 % from the middle of the field.

That USmash looks weird as **** (fitting for K. Rool though).

 

[Shroob]

Wasn't werewolf a boss in Rondo of Blood?


I'm assuming you never played TP. That's his mighty steed.

No, I meant the red and white.


I see now they're the horns but my mind originally went to Dead Hands.

 

[PeridotGX]

We've got Rathalos, Dracula, Galleom, and Galeem so far, right?

I think the total list is..

Rathalos, Dracula, Galleon (confirmed via footage), King Bulbin, Werewolf, Lumen Sage (That banner sidebar thing), Master Hand, Galeem (not confirmed, but too obvious). There's also likely Yellow Devil, Metal Face, and Dark Emporor (easy carryovers from their stage) and Zero from Kirby (Hinted at on website).

 

[NineS]

You are not pointless, and you may have hugs

How dare you call him pointed. That's insulting! He does not have a pointy head...
I'm pointless. And I like it that way.

Galeem gives me some serious Safer Sephiroth vibes.

First thing I thought of when I saw Galeem was Tabuu. Then Sephiroth. Then 02. Then Solaris... And a bit of anti-master core.

 

[CroonerMike]

I think the total list is..

Rathalos, Dracula, Galleon (confirmed via footage), King Bulbin, Werewolf, Lumen Sage (That banner sidebar thing), Master Hand, Galeem (not confirmed, but too obvious). There's also likely Yellow Devil, Metal Face, and Dark Emporor (easy carryovers from their stage) and Zero from Kirby (Hinted at on website).

Zero from Kirby was hinted?

 

[Starbound]

Don't think it's been brought up yet, but Gladion's Battle Theme is confirmed!

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/about/index.html

Scroll down to new music and you'll see it in the background as they scroll through some songs.

 

[Shroob]

Zero from Kirby was hinted?

I think he means the fact that they have to indicate that Zero(Megaman) is a thing, and Pyrosphere is gone, so Zero(Metroid) may be gone as well.

 

[KMDP]

I have a serious pet peeve with "fantasy=british," especially since the "classical" English accent isn't even as old as the United States. I hope this carries forward into any further Zelda games with voice acting.

I seem to remember something I heard that the accent British people spoke with as recently as the Victorian era was closer to an American accent (I can't remember which one specifically) than any accent actual British people have nowadays.

I think it was a Mentalfloss Article.

Galeem gives me some serious Safer Sephiroth vibes.

Ah... so it's the arrival of JENOVA to the World of Smash, I see.

 

[PeridotGX]

Zero from Kirby was hinted?

Sorta. The AT for Zero from Mega Man X is referred to as "Zero (Megaman)". There wouldn't be a point to the distinction if there was only one Zero present, so that means another Zero in the game, likely the Kirby one.

 

[Luigifan18]

That is such a JRPG name holy ****. There's nothing SAFER about this dude

It's likely a mistranslation. It's probably supposed to be "Seraph" or something like that.

 

[Shroob]

There's also the fact that Zero2 and Galeem are pretty damn similar(Both angelic bols)

And the mode's name in reverse Japanese is literally Kirby of the Stars.


Zero being the final boss in some sort of crazy Sakurai-written fanfic kind of makes sense.

 

[Kuon]

How dare you call him pointed. That's insulting! He does not have a pointy head...
I'm pointless. And I like it that way.

First thing I thought of when I saw Galeem was Tabuu. Then Sephiroth. Then 02. Then Solaris... And a bit of anti-master core.

lol okay, okay, you got me there

 

[Plumstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5aU5zdWTW8
Look at the top left of the screen when the match starts, it clearly shows CROWNED meaning Sakurai DOES listen to us about this

This is great news, Sakurai acknowledging more modern Kirby music . This is what I wanted since unfortunately we didn't get a Kirby stage for base game. I hope we get Moonstruck Blossom and Star Dream as well, imagine having that while playing in the Fountain of Dreams.

 

[Will]

There's also the fact that Zero2 and Galeem are pretty damn similar(Both angelic bols)

And the mode's name in reverse Japanese is literally Kirby of the Stars.


Zero being the final boss in some sort of crazy Sakurai-written fanfic kind of makes sense.

And then it turns out to be Tabuu again and all of your tinfoil was wasted.

 

[Starbound]

Galeem is totally Piranha Plant and that's why it didn't get destroyed Thanos'd.

 

[Shroob]

And then it turns out to be Tabuu again and all of your tinfoil was wasted.

But what if Tabuu........was also Zero.

 

[Will]

But what if Tabuu........was also Zero.

Then Dark Matter would have to be a secret fighter

 

[NineS]

But what if Tabuu........was also Zero.

I'll do you one better.

Galeem is actually a secret unlockable character that you can't get until you unlock every other character and beat him on the hardest difficulty with every character at least 1.
Doing so will unlock a secret character.

 

[monadoboy]

Don't think it's been brought up yet, but Gladion's Battle Theme is confirmed!

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/about/index.html

Scroll down to new music and you'll see it in the background as they scroll through some songs.

Gladion's theme is hype but

Kass's Theme?? oof

 

[KMDP]

That is such a JRPG name holy ****. There's nothing SAFER about this dude

Well...

It's likely a mistranslation. It's probably supposed to be "Seraph" or something like that.

****, 'd.

*actually looks it up*

No, it's not a mistranslation, it's actually a misspelling.

Sepher (סֶפֶר) is Hebrew for "book".

Səphīrōth (סְפִירוֹת, medieval Hebrew form of Sephirot; also spelled Sefirot), is a plural noun in Hebrew; the singular is Sephirah (also spelled Sefira). The Sephiroth are described in the Kabbalah as the manifestations of God that allow him to manifest in the physical and metaphysical universes. Sephiroth also means "counting" (of numbers).

The boss's name as written in Japanese is "セーファ・セフィロス", or "Sēfa Sefirosu"; "safer" can also be transliterated as "sefer", "sapher", and "sepher". Thus, Safer Sephiroth (Sefer Sfirot) translates to "Book of Numerations" likely referring to the 10 Kabbalistic Sefirot, the ten aspects of creation according to Jewish Mysticism.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Guys if anything Galeem is Waluigi since he wants revenge for not being chosen.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

This is exactly why I go into lockdown mode whenever a big new game comes out. Don't read anything, don't watch anything, don't look it up. Just play the game and see for yourself.

unless you're like me and love looking up spoilers pff

 

[Gyrom8]

There's also the fact that Zero2 and Galeem are pretty damn similar(Both angelic bols)

And the mode's name in reverse Japanese is literally Kirby of the Stars.


Zero being the final boss in some sort of crazy Sakurai-written fanfic kind of makes sense.

I hope not: for an ultimate crossover it wouldn't be great if the big bad was specific to one series. Giga Bowser was cool and all, but Tabuu at least didn't feel like he was giving one series special favour.

Though if Galeem looks like something out of Kirby that could be cool.

 

[DraginHikari]

Kept away for a few days while I let the salt kind of dissolve away. After seeing about 10 pages or so of mostly salt, decided I didn't need to read 100+ pages of it. So, guess it’s time for me to throw out some thoughts.

Roster: So, the Box theory ended up being the case. Frankly, I was staying fairly neutral about the whole leak situation because frankly I can't find devote the energy to let myself get stressed out when I'm busy fretting over work. I think I'm just at a stage of my life where it hard to devote energy to stuff like this. During Brawl and Smash 4 I did but here I just couldn't bring myself to do so. Probably why my speculation has been calmer for me this time around. I just don't care like I once did about it.

Ken and Incineroar: To be honest neither of them particular interest me but they seem well implemented all things considered. However, in general the first half of the announcements definitely hit home more so then what we've seen in this latter half.

Spirits: Honestly, I'm fine with the system and probably will find myself playing around with it some. I wasn't attached that much to the trophy system to really be upset that they are being excluded this time around. Seems like a fusion of the trophy system, sticker system, and the event match system. I am kind of amused how they take a character and try to create a fight similar to that character using the existing assets they have. It's a fun little concept that can be ignored and embraced depending on what you like to do.

Online: I don't entirely understand the issue behind it other the fact that you can't be guaranteed to gate off certain content at times. I think in general I believe the idea appears to be to limit the downtime between matches by removing some of the walls which split the community in two. In general, there will probably be enough people playing most of the time initially that it won't be that bad in general. Otherwise there's also the Arenas that make for a nice compromise. I have issues with the Nintendo Online App, but that's more of a general problem then something Smash specific. The reality is, Voice Chat is not currently possible unless Nintendo greatly changes their Switch Operating System which is not an easy task to accomplish so I'm not counting it against Smash itself.

Assist Trophy: Yeah it was kind of rough to see Isaac back in the Assist Trophy slot but after Brawl and Smash 4, I've kind of accepted at this point that Isaac was a bit of a long shot at this point. I don't have much of an opinion on most of the others.

DLC: This was kind of expected and I wasn't really shocked by their plans. It's at least an improvement over Smash 4 DLC process that broke the DLC down far too much and made some of it difficult to follow.

Mii Fighter Costumes: Sad as it was to see Rex there, I'm not sure I'm ready to assume that someone appearing in Spirits or as Mii Fighter costumes are a guarantee they will not appear in other forms. If it is the case, oh well, I'll live.

Piranha Plant: This was such a Sakuari thing to do and I was laughing like hell when it happened. I loved it for the same reason I remember loving the Wii Fit Trainer trailer during Smash 4. It's just such a level of complete absurdity that I could help but love the whole thing.

World of Light: I'm very interested to see where this goes, I don't have much else to say since they didn't reveal that much as it looks like an extension of the Spirits system with a story element behind it. I loved the lyrical song that played in the trailer.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Huh?

Where did this come from?

Were people talking about Bowsette?

You know... I keep looking at Galeem and get a sort Digimon-esque vibe from it.

If people don't get what I mean, there have been some very weird Digimon designs.

Spoiler

Yeah someone was talking about how they freaked out over the Bowsette fad

 

[Starbound]

Gladion's theme is hype but

Kass's Theme?? oof

Yeah I don't know how to feel about that one.

French bistro music would fit better on Smashville than any of the Zelda stages imo.

 

[Deleted member]

I think the total list is..

Rathalos, Dracula, Galleon (confirmed via footage), King Bulbin, Werewolf, Lumen Sage (That banner sidebar thing), Master Hand, Galeem (not confirmed, but too obvious). There's also likely Yellow Devil, Metal Face, and Dark Emporor (easy carryovers from their stage) and Zero from Kirby (Hinted at on website).

I heard somewhere about Rayquaza too.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Don't think it's been brought up yet, but Gladion's Battle Theme is confirmed!

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/about/index.html

Scroll down to new music and you'll see it in the background as they scroll through some songs.

You mean this theme?
It's really good. It makes sense that it's in Smash

 

[Nethermoosen]

It's likely a mistranslation. It's probably supposed to be "Seraph" or something like that.

It’s a misspelling of Sefer, which is from Jewish kabbalah as is the word “Sephirot” from which he is named.

It’s roughly translated as “Original Blueprint of God”

So he’s like the original holy lifeform version of himself or something like that.
It’s all a play on Judaism. Like Jenova is similar to Jehova.

 

[Robertman2]

Anyone have an article about Disney being on board if Sakurai wanted Sora in Smash?