Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Waluigi is not getting in]

So I found this, not sure if this has been posted here yet

/s

 

[Untouch]

Here's something.

Why don't people try to tell me their best guess for the next (smash) direct. The date, the time (include time zone), the intro "surprise", the outro "surprise", and the meat of the direct in the order you expect it.

If enough people guess someone's bound to get something right

August 8th
Open with a character trailer, Ken and Incineroar, showcasing a new stage, Ultra Space.
After that he'll explain Ken and Incineroar, then Ultra Space and the ultra beast stage hazards that can show up.
That'll segue into explaining the remaining 4 stages he hasn't shown off, for whatever reason.
He'll explain the rest of the assist trophies and items in the game as well.
From that, he'll go over Spirits mode and how it functions, this'll be the bulk of the direct.
Then he'll explain the online functionality and remaining single player stuff.
Then he'll end with a TestSmash announcement for the 16th, maybe a Spirits mode trailer at the very end.

My theory that new series don't end the direct has been 3 for 3 so far, they usually come with stages and Sakurai has been explaining them, that's why I don't think we're getting a character trailer at the end this time, unless Incineroar is at the end and they start with a new series. I do not Incineroar is getting a new stage though since the Ultra Beasts who are the focal point of SM's story are strangely absent so far.

 

[FallofBrawl]

How companies do leak bait, so I heard, is to throw a bunch of names out there, some true and some fake. They reel in untrustworthy sources with some real leaks, and then throw a curveball, this is to help root out the leakers whom are closer to the project once they grab onto the bait leak.

 

[KMDP]

The fishing rod seems like it could be useful for saving your teammate in Doubles.

"Being able to save teammates in Doubles" is just one of the many reasons I want Tails in Smash.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Highly unlikely because:

- They can disable comments.
- It's Sunday.
- It's a third party who hosted the video.

This smells of panic.

Almost positive it IS panic.

 

[Snorkel the dolphin]

When Kirby inhales Banjo he should get yellow shorts and a blue backpack just like all the Banjo transformations

 

[Iridium]

Here's something.

Why don't people try to tell me their best guess for the next (smash) direct. The date, the time (include time zone), the intro "surprise", the outro "surprise", and the meat of the direct in the order you expect it.

If enough people guess someone's bound to get something right

For the date, November 10th, at 6 P.M. (EST), and the intro "surprise" is the reveal of Isaac, while Banjo & Kazooie make for the outro "surprise", which Sakurai will acknowledge himself.

In between that, the new mode will be introduced, the stage builder (improved) is revealed, the online availabilities are explained, and then the announcement of future DLC for a later date is stated. The remaining "leaked" characters get revealed out of nowhere in addition.

But really though, if the last part happens somehow...and I'm team neutral here.

 

[Pyra]

August 8th
Open with a character trailer, Ken and Incineroar, showcasing a new stage, Ultra Space.
After that he'll explain Ken and Incineroar, then Ultra Space and the ultra beast stage hazards that can show up.
That'll segue into explaining the remaining 4 stages he hasn't shown off, for whatever reason.
He'll explain the rest of the assist trophies and items in the game as well.
From that, he'll go over Spirits mode and how it functions, this'll be the bulk of the direct.
Then he'll explain the online functionality and remaining single player stuff.
Then he'll end with a TestSmash announcement for the 16th, maybe a Spirits mode trailer at the very end.

My theory that new series don't end the direct has been 3 for 3 so far, they usually come with stages and Sakurai has been explaining them, that's why I don't think we're getting a character trailer at the end this time, unless Incineroar is at the end and they start with a new series. I do not Incineroar is getting a new stage though since the Ultra Beasts who are the focal point of SM's story are strangely absent so far.

Interesting

I also personally expect some kind of news about a demo or "Test Smash" during the next major direct.
Ultra Space would be really cool too. So far the only Gen 7 representation have been a handful of Pokeballs.

 

[Graizen]

GAME:

List a DLC character for each month of 2019

1 - Agumon
2 - Crash
3 - Elma
4 - Rex
5 - Bandana Dee
6 - Doomguy
7 - Crono
8 - Octoling
9 - Kyo
10 - Travis
11 - Gen 7 Pokémon
12 - Gen 8 Pokémon

 

[Kuon]

August 8th
Open with a character trailer, Ken and Incineroar, showcasing a new stage, Ultra Space.
After that he'll explain Ken and Incineroar, then Ultra Space and the ultra beast stage hazards that can show up.
That'll segue into explaining the remaining 4 stages he hasn't shown off, for whatever reason.
He'll explain the rest of the assist trophies and items in the game as well.
From that, he'll go over Spirits mode and how it functions, this'll be the bulk of the direct.
Then he'll explain the online functionality and remaining single player stuff.
Then he'll end with a TestSmash announcement for the 16th, maybe a Spirits mode trailer at the very end.

My theory that new series don't end the direct has been 3 for 3 so far, they usually come with stages and Sakurai has been explaining them, that's why I don't think we're getting a character trailer at the end this time, unless Incineroar is at the end and they start with a new series. I do not Incineroar is getting a new stage though since the Ultra Beasts who are the focal point of SM's story are strangely absent so far.

You mean November 8th, right? I guessed November 8th as well

 

[MasterOfKnees]

If ACP-PLV really are the ones who requested the video to be taken down, then that's a massive red flag, and really as close to a confirmation as we're going to get before an actual Direct. The mere notion that they'd be acknowledging the leak, but not shooting it down like Marina did, would heavily imply that it's the real deal and that they're just frantically trying to soften the situation.

We can't say for certain that's what happened though, even if it's likely, for all we know it might be because the uploader (which from what I can gather is a separate company of some sort) didn't want to be associated with the controversy of a potential leak. I'll still wait and see before definitively taking a side, because I don't take the insiders' words lightly either, but it's a notable development regardless.

And no, it wasn't removed because of the comment section, that's such a paper thin excuse tbh.

 

[Dee Dude]

How many copies do you guys think Smash will sell in the first six months of release?

10 million, calling it now.

This game will sell like hot cakes, it’ll be one of the best selling Nintendo games of all time mark my words.

 

[Untouch]

You mean November 8th, right? I guessed November 8th as well

Oops, yeah, I don't want to edit incase I actually end up right, then I won't be able to brag.

 

[Pyra]

For the date, November 10th, at 6 P.M. (EST), and the intro "surprise" is the reveal of Isaac, while Banjo & Kazooie make for the outro "surprise", which Sakurai will acknowledge himself.

In between that, the new mode will be introduced, the stage builder (improved) is revealed, the online availabilities are explained, and then the announcement of future DLC for a later date is stated.

The stage builder.

I wonder if they're actually going to improve that.

Imagine it taking inspiration from Super Mario Maker.

 

[Fred Herbert]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but Banjo instead of Steve for a Microsoft rep makes perfect sense.

Think about it, Smash is all about video game history, and introducing that history to it's players, young and old.

These characters spark interest into these fans. Making Smash somewhat of an advertisement as well. Hell, I've never played a Mother game in my life, as well as many others until Ness was included in Smash 64.

Smash boosts interest in characters that will probably never get their time to shine again. Just look at Ice Climbers, G&W, R.O.B., Duck Hunt, and Mach Rider. These unique characters get people talking, and learning more about their history in the gaming world.

Banjo was a big hit back in the 64 days, considerably one of Rare's biggest IPs, but hasn't really seen too many stellar appearances in video games lately. Same goes for Mega Man, who was neglected by Capcom until he was given his massive revival in Sm4sh.

While Steve would be popular with the kids, adding Banjo would get the younger generation talking. Probably even wanting their parents to dig up their old N64 carts. High interest in Banjo could even get Microsoft to return him to his old 3D platforming roots. (Banjo Threeie?) Seeing as how Mega Man 11 was an amazing game considering how recently it was made.

All in all, I'm still holding out for this leak, as there is so much potential for each of these characters. I'd still be happy with Sakurai's decisions nonetheless, as this game is already shattering expectations.

 

[Kuon]

GAME:

List a DLC character for each month of 2019

1 - Agumon
2 - Crash
3 - Elma
4 - Rex
5 - Bandana Dee
6 - Doomguy
7 - Crono
8 - Octoling
9 - Kyo
10 - Travis
11 - Gen 7 Pokémon
12 - Gen 8 Pokémon

What about FE Three Houses? I feel like that's almost guaranteed

 

[CosmicQuark]

When Kirby inhales Banjo he should get yellow shorts and a blue backpack just like all the Banjo transformations

I mean... this... but Kirby. Perfect.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

- Joker
- Segata
- NiGHTS
- Akira
- AiAi
no Vyse?

Or even Arle or Kazuma Kiryu, for that matter.

 

[Kuon]

The stage builder.

I wonder if they're actually going to improve that.

Imagine it taking inspiration from Super Mario Maker.

I hope they improve on that. Stage Builder is what keeps me playing for months and years after the game comes out

 

[Majalbatross]

'Twas the night before leakmas
And all through the forum
Not a creature was stirring
Except a crying Steve and Incineroar

 

[Z25]

IF this leak is legit, how do you think people like liam Robertson and other insiders would react? Not picking on them, it's an honest question.

Liam would literally keep his twitter private for months,
Several insiders will say they lied about their thoughts out of respect to nintendo. And some would probably be pretty salty. It be great.

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436781578

ACP-PLV deleted a video of how their environment works and most particually the machines

The fake thinks it’s stop spamming but it would have Ben simpler just to disable the comment section since it’s a YouTube video.

Yeah I’m convinced it’s fully real now. No way would they not just disable comments unless something incriminating and connected to smash could be made from there.

Here's something.

Why don't people try to tell me their best guess for the next (smash) direct. The date, the time (include time zone), the intro "surprise", the outro "surprise", and the meat of the direct in the order you expect it.

If enough people guess someone's bound to get something right

November 1st 5pm est.

Regular Nintendo direct. Opens with the chorus kids followed by a new RH game on switch.

Ends wth Geno and an announcement of the next smash direct.

November 8th: Smash direct at 5pm est

Opens with Issac, then echos segment for ken and shadow.

Mach rider is shown in the middle as Sakurai talks about the past and where the future will take them.

Lastly banjo closes out the direct.

But wait there’s more!

Just like mewtwo, we get confirmation of the first DLC character who is free with your Nintendo online subscription.

Omg we gun get Mother 3 at the beginning and Mother 4 at the end

“Imadethistoaeealeak likes this”

Lmao

 

[Pyra]

I hope they improve on that. Stage Builder is what keeps me playing for months and years after the game comes out

I hope they improve on it too.
Before, it's only really been a novelty to me that I only used a few times. The most used stage I made was basically a cage used for stamina matches.

 

[Deleted member]

Changing Final Smashes? Hmm...That's a little hard to do when we haven't seen all of them yet, and IMO the ones that needed fixing have already been fixed, but if I had to think of at least a few...

: Make it like Falcon's, except instead of being ran over by the Blue Falcon, it's whoever gets caught in it getting ran over by legions of Toads and Toadettes.

: Summons the Meta-Knights for one giant team attack.

: Not a change per se because he's never previously had one, but I'm hoping for Fierce Deity.

: I can't really come up with one on the spot (I haven't played Uprising in ages and can't think of anything specific to reference), but I will say anything is better than her Smash 4 one...

: Pair up with Cordelia.

: Grows to gargantuan size, grabs all of the fighters on-screen, and starts stacking them. After he stacks them, they explode.

: This.

 

[KMDP]

For the date, November 10th, at 6 P.M. (EST), and the intro "surprise" is the reveal of Isaac, while Banjo & Kazooie make for the outro "surprise", which Sakurai will acknowledge himself.

In between that, the new mode will be introduced, the stage builder (improved) is revealed, the online availabilities are explained, and then the announcement of future DLC for a later date is stated. The remaining "leaked" characters get revealed out of nowhere in addition.

I do like the idea of Rareware Characters closing out a Smash Direct twice in a row.

"It's like poetry, they rhyme."

 

[osby]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but Banjo instead of Steve for a Microsoft rep makes perfect sense.

Think about it, Smash is all about video game history, and introducing that history to it's players, young and old.

These characters spark interest into these fans. Making Smash somewhat of an advertisement as well. Hell, I've never played a Mother game in my life, as well as many others until Ness was included in Smash 64.

Smash boosts interest in characters that will probably never get their time to shine again. Just look at Ice Climbers, G&W, R.O.B., Duck Hunt, and Mach Rider. These unique characters get people talking, and learning more about their history in the gaming world.

Banjo was a big hit back in the 64 days, considerably one of Rare's biggest IPs, but hasn't really seen too many stellar appearances in video games lately. Same goes for Mega Man, who was neglected by Capcom until he was given his massive revival in Sm4sh.

While Steve would be popular with the kids, adding Banjo would get the younger generation talking. Probably even wanting their parents to dig up their old N64 carts. High interest in Banjo could even get Microsoft to return him to his old 3D platforming roots. (Banjo Threeie?) Seeing as how Mega Man 11 was an amazing game considering how recently it was made.

All in all, I'm still holding out for this leak, as there is so much potential for each of these characters. I'd still be happy with Sakurai's decisions nonetheless, as this game is already shattering expectations.

I mean, according to that logic, Sakurai should have added NİGHTS instead of Sonic in Brawl.

 

[Kuon]

Oops, yeah, I don't want to edit incase I actually end up right, then I won't be able to brag.

Ah yes, very true. August 8th seems pretty likely

 

[doomedtacox]

GAME:

List a DLC character for each month of 2019

1 - Agumon
2 - Crash
3 - Elma
4 - Rex
5 - Bandana Dee
6 - Doomguy
7 - Crono
8 - Octoling
9 - Kyo
10 - Travis
11 - Gen 7 Pokémon
12 - Gen 8 Pokémon

Be completely honest, do you think Agumon seriously has anything more than a 0% chance of getting into this game?

 

[Deleted member]

So someone on 4chan made this handy little image:

The video takedown, and confirmation that Bamco spreads fake leaks are both very interesting to note.

 

[KingofKoopas]

'Twas the night before leakmas
And all through the forum
Not a creature was stirring
Except a crying Steve and Incineroar

I want to hit like on this, but you rhymed Forum with Incineroar... hmmm..

 

[Kuon]

I hope they improve on it too.
Before, it's only really been a novelty to me that I only used a few times. The most used stage I made was basically a cage used for stamina matches.

That's what I did as well, a cage stage, except not for stamina matches, because I'm evil and like seeing the characters bounce around like ping pong balls

 

[The_Naraotor]

People speaking of DLC well then I am resharing this

 

[Phyr]

On the other hand, do they have a reason to keep it up?

The question should be: Do they have any reason to delete in a Sunday evening? Was it that urgent? (They deleted it around 18:00 in our timezne (I'm spanish, but France has the same time zone than us)

 

[amazonevan19]

It's almost time...

If this plays during his reveal trailer I will ****ing lose it.

And I've never even played SMRPG.

 

[ButterGeek]

Here's something.

Why don't people try to tell me their best guess for the next (smash) direct. The date, the time (include time zone), the intro "surprise", the outro "surprise", and the meat of the direct in the order you expect it.

If enough people guess someone's bound to get something right

Novemember 7th Midnight CET
AND the big thing is, it's not a Direct, it's a new 50 Fact Extravaganza.
I won't list 50 things, but here are examples of stuff they could reveal:
Opening (so facts 1 & 2):
INCINEROAR brings others to heel!
KEN joins the fight!
They are in as the last base game fighters
The 32 player tourney
A lot of stuff about the Spirits mode (it's basically Subspace 2)
New item, Beast Ball, works like Pokeball but summons Ultra Beasts (Poipole, Naganadel, Buzzwole, Pheromosa, Xurkitree, Guzzlord, Stakataka, Blacephalon)
Some other new items, including the Paper Mario sprout
Some new ATs, including the second Indie assist, SANS
Some details about the buffs and nerfs
That and some more would make for 50, then, when we think it's over, we get
#51: About DLC
then we get a cinematic trailer for the first batch of DLC (Q1 2019):
BANJO & KAZZOIE make a rare appearance! (got the caption from a fanmade splash card)
SORA has the key to victory!
STEVE joins the game (itsaminecraftreference)

BONUS: I don't think Dante's getting in any time soon, but if he ever does his splash card should be "DANTE from the Devil May Cry series is featured!"

 

[KMDP]

I hope they improve on it too.
Before, it's only really been a novelty to me that I only used a few times. The most used stage I made was basically a cage used for stamina matches.

Stamina Cage Matches are the best. XD

Pair up with Cordelia.

It would be Sumia and you know it.
(Poor Cordelia)

 

[Hinata]

If this leak is true, and assuming the characters in it are the only ones left for base roster, that would give us 16 newcomers in Ultimate's base roster. That would be:

• 5 less than Smash 4 had when DLC was finished
• 1 less than Smash 4 had in its base roster
• 2 less than Brawl
• and 5 more than Melee

 

[Confirmation]

It's amazing that this already ridiculously strange leak somehow manages to become more and more confusing over time.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So, if the leak is real... What music do you guys want to see from the following franchises?
(Links, please, I want to keep our mobile users in good condition)
Super Mario RPG
Banjo Kazooie
Golden Sun
Rhythm Heaven


Here's Mine
Fight Against Monsters (Super Mario RPG)
Freezeezy Peak (Banjo Kazooie)
Isaac's Battle Them (Golden Sun)
Remix 4 (Rhythm Heaven Fever)

 

[Majalbatross]

I want to hit like on this, but you rhymed Forum with Incineroar... hmmm..

I'm garbage at poetry, gimme a break here fam.

 

[Dcas]

So anything new on the leak?