Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[TheCJBrine]

What...huh?

Ok ok let me illustrate what is more likely because you're confusing me here. I'll go with box theory, even though I have an inkling we will get 1-2 more than that. So 18 characters over 7 weeks.

Week of Oct 22:
Week of Oct 29: and let's just say direct this week so Friday is Incineroar
Week of Nov 5: Monday is Ken,
Week of Nov 12:
Week of Nov 19: (shorter week because Thanks Giving??? Idk)
Week of Nov 26:
Week of Release:

So strictly following Box (which I'm only using as an example) we can have 4 weeks of 3 and 3 of 2. That's more realistic to what we've received especially recently.

Sorry for that, but I hope that makes it look more realistic than crazy patterns lol


There are a lot of combinations. There is no way to predict remaining characters using blog updates.

However you can look and see that box theory fits a realistic idea of updating all characters before release.

I just did more calculations in my head before seeing this, so that could happen as well, along with one more solution, yes.

Yep - also, I edited my post as I forgot to include Bayonetta, so it's two weeks of three. If we get more than two weeks of three, a week of one, or more than one week of four, Box Theory can't rely on the blogs at least.

edit: technically, after doing more calculations, we could get one week of one, and no weeks of four, if we get only one week of two and five of three, or three weeks of two and four of three. So, actually, this is hard and confusing.

So I'm back at square-one.

edit: and just saw that you saw that :S

 

[Luigi The President]

We could just speed up after the final Direct...
3/4 more characters being showed off beyond Keniroar isn't that much of a hassle I'm positive.

 

[Kaeltor]

Has the whole Nintendo live potentially being the release build been discussed on this thread already?

Edit: https://twitter.com/Meshima_/status/1053423832441049089?s=19

 

[alemerltoucanet]

I'm down to like, five characters pretty much.

69. Elma
70. Incineroar
71. Geno

38E. Shadow
60E. Ken

This list doesn't really relate to any question or topic. I'm just throwing it out there.

I'm going the same, but I'm thinking maybe no Elma but instead a Microsoft rep or Shantae (no hate towards Elma fans though, I think she's very likely, just not sure if she'd be base roster).

 

[Jchrono95]

Anything of any importance I miss today or has it been a typical day?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Anything of any importance I miss today or has it been a typical day?

We might be getting something November 3-4 from the Nintendo Live.

 

[Pyra]

Has the whole Nintendo live potentially being the release build been discussed on this thread already?

Of course, but it's not really a closed case (of course) so bringing it back up for more scrutinizing is always good

 

[TheCJBrine]

So, I'm just relying on the next direct announcing more than two characters, or at least announcing Geno as DLC. The Box is a headache.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

We might be getting something

The last six months in a nutshell.

 

[Pyra]

The last six months in a nutshell.

Presumably also the next six months if DLC has anything to say about it.

 

[Jchrono95]

We might be getting something November 3-4 from the Nintendo Live.

That's about what I've expected, but what exactly suggests that?

 

[Kaeltor]

We might be getting something November 3-4 from the Nintendo Live.

Wouldn't that technically be Nov 2-3 for people on the other half of the globe?

 

[SuperSceptile15]

Okay so let’s say hypothetically there’s 2 unique newcomers and 3 echoes left to show off in a final direct.

Who do you think they’ll be?

Elma and Decidueye for newcomers.
Shadow, Ken, and Dixie for echoes.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

That's about what I've expected, but what exactly suggests that?

Sakurai retweeted it. Doesn’t necessarily mean anything is guaranteed to happen but it is something to keep in mind.

 

[Pyra]

Sakurai retweeted it. Doesn’t necessarily mean anything is guaranteed to happen but it is something to keep in mind.

Well to be a bit more precise, he didn't just retweet it, he's encouraging people to show up too.

Not that it means anything for sure, but hey.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I'll pitch in.

Hoping:

69: Nightmare
70: Elma
71: Banjo-Kazooie
13e: Black Shadow
54e: Medusa

Expecting:

69: Incineroar
70: Geno or Steve?
36e: Dixie Kong
38e: Shadow
60e: Ken

 

[shinhed-echi]

Okay so let’s say hypothetically there’s 2 unique newcomers and 3 echoes left to show off in a final direct.

Who do you think they’ll be?

I'm going to go with

Isaac
Geno

Shadow
Ken
Medusa

 

[TheCJBrine]

Okay so let’s say hypothetically there’s 2 unique newcomers and 3 echoes left to show off in a final direct.

Who do you think they’ll be?

Incineroar
Geno

Ken
Shadow
Dixie

 

[Robertman2]

Incineroar
Sora
Steve?

Shadow
Ken
Dixie Kong

 

[Noipoi]

Incineroar
Geno
Steve/Elma/Chorus Kids
Ken
Shadow
Possibly Dixie or Impa?

These are the most likely remaining characters for the base roster, in my opinion.

 

[PeridotGX]

Okay so let’s say hypothetically there’s 2 unique newcomers and 3 echoes left to show off in a final direct.

Who do you think they’ll be?

Lycanroc
Incineroar

Ken, Shadow, and either Dixie or Impa.

 

[CosmicQuark]

What...huh?

Ok ok let me illustrate what is more likely because you're confusing me here. I'll go with box theory, even though I have an inkling we will get 1-2 more than that. So 18 characters over 7 weeks.

Week of Oct 22:
Week of Oct 29: and let's just say direct this week so Friday is Incineroar
Week of Nov 5: Monday is Ken,
Week of Nov 12:
Week of Nov 19: (shorter week because Thanks Giving??? Idk)
Week of Nov 26:
Week of Release:

So strictly following Box (which I'm only using as an example) we can have 4 weeks of 3 and 3 of 2. That's more realistic to what we've received especially recently.

Sorry for that, but I hope that makes it look more realistic than crazy patterns lol


There are a lot of combinations. There is no way to predict remaining characters using blog updates.

However you can look and see that box theory fits a realistic idea of updating all characters before release.

I'll give it a shot with the characters I think are most likely--however it's already stuffed, so I can't see any more characters than this (also it should be noted some weeks have had 4 characters, but this evens things out nicely as a hypothetical, since I'm not at all confident in my veteran date choices. Also like August 8, unique characters revealed in the Direct are on the same day, echoes following).

Week of Oct 22:
Week of Oct 29:

Week of Nov 5:

Week of Nov 12:
Week of Nov 19:
Week of Nov 26:
Week of Dec 3:

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...ding_to_a_japanese_smash_researcher_nintendo/

First day November 3rd

We are in the end game now (if true)

 

[Splotim]

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...ding_to_a_japanese_smash_researcher_nintendo/

The end game is coming (if true)

What the hell is a smash researcher and how do I become one?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

The end game is coming (if true)

I'll phase that better for you.

 

[CrunchyCHEEZIT]

Lycanroc
Incineroar

Ken, Shadow, and either Dixie or Impa.

>two pokemon reps.

I'd ****ing throw myself out of a window.

 

[CosmicQuark]

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...ding_to_a_japanese_smash_researcher_nintendo/

The end game is coming (if true)

We've talked about it some, I think it was U Untouch who mentioned that it's more accurate to say Let's Go had "trial" version, which they haven't been doing for Ultimate.

EDIT: But we are in the end game now... we are

 

[Michael the Spikester]

>two pokemon reps.

I'd ****ing throw myself out of a window.

If we do get another Pokemon rep it'll likely be through DLC as promotion for Gen 8. I can't see us getting two in Base game though.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

>two pokemon reps.

I'd ****ing throw myself out of a window.

It could maybe happen. Pokemon is the highest-grossing media franchise in the world with hundreds of unique monsters and other characters. It can get as many reps as it damn pleases.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I heard rumors that incineroar might have Ben bait for leaked as well

 

[Luigi The President]

I heard rumors that incineroar might have Ben bait for leaked as well

I heard rumors that people are just in denial that Incineroar's in

 

[PeridotGX]

>two pokemon reps.

I'd ****ing throw myself out of a window.

That's a mistake. I meant one of Lycanroc/Incineroar and also Geno.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

It could maybe happen. Pokemon is the highest-grossing media franchise in the world with hundreds of unique monsters and other characters. It can get as many reps as it damn pleases.

As said most likely scenario is a Gen 8 Pokemon through DLC as means of promotion.

 

[Wiziliz]

If Geno is in he'll officially be the second worst-kept Smash secret, only losing to Palutena.

I'd put Incineroar above him. He's the only character where I think leaks have given him away. As for Ken, I'm confident he'll be in, and I have been since Echo Fighters were highlighted.

 

[Deleted member]

>two pokemon reps.

I'd ****ing throw myself out of a window.

Pokemon is cool though.

 

[CosmicQuark]

If we do get another Pokemon rep it'll likely be through DLC as promotion for Gen 8. I can't see us getting two in Base game though.

If there is going to be two Pokemon in the base, which would at the very least be a nice surprise to lessen the blow of Incineroar, I'd want Sceptile so that all three of the elemental trio get solo representation, Gen 3 gets a character, and it was at least a character slightly popular in the polls in 2015.

 

[Idon]

It could maybe happen. Pokemon is the highest-grossing media franchise in the world with hundreds of unique monsters and other characters. It can get as many reps as it damn pleases.

If we were to hand out character based proportionally on how many sales a game franchise gets, then we might as well cut the rest of the characters, stop calling it Smash Bros and start calling it Pokemon: Haha We Sell More.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Super Mario Bros. maybe Nintendo's most iconic and recognizable franchise but when it comes down to popularity. Pokemon no doubt takes that...

 

[AugustusB]

So with this new information of a potential release version of Ultimate being shown Nov 3rd. What are people feeling a direct will be shown?

I could see them doing it either the day before the event or to start the event with the dierct as a kickoff to it all.

But I think/hope they will do a direct before that. My guess next week around the 24th sounds good.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

I will continue to doubt Steve until Sakurai shows him to me.