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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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That's just going to start flaming. How about favourite Smash characters? :)
My mains :ultsheik::ultcorrin::ultlucina:

Secondary :ultpit::ultcloud::ultpalutena::ultfox::ultpikachu::ultlucario::ultsonic::ultroy::ultbayonetta:

Sheik was my favorite character from since Melee, even before I knew what a Tier list was. I just liked how Ninjaesque she was.

I like Swordfighters and Dragons so Corrin, and Lucina are no brainers, overall I just like fast, nimble, agile characters (with very slight exceptions)
 

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Alright. Who were your mains in previous Smash games? Who do you think you'll main in Smash Ultimate?

Smash 64: :kirby64::pikachu64:
Melee: :younglinkmelee::kirbymelee::pikachumelee:
Brawl: :lucario::kirby2::squirtle::rob:
Smash Wii U: :4lucario::4littlemac::4cloud2::4rob::4villager::4kirby:
Smash Ultimate: :ultlucario::ultyounglink::ultdaisy::ultisabelle::ultcloud::ultlittlemac::ultinkling::ultpokemontrainer::ultrob::ultkirby::ultpikachu:

I can't drop Kirby I guess.

Guess I'll throw in my choices too. Though really, "mains" for any game where you only use 1 character at a time should probably be 3 max.

Melee: :mariomelee::samusmelee::luigimelee::foxmelee::ganondorfmelee:
Brawl: :mario2::samus2::fox::ike::ganondorf:
Smash 4: :4megaman::4ryu::4littlemac::4myfriends::4mario::4samus::4ganondorf:
Smash Ultimate: :ultmegaman::ultridley::ultryu::ultsimon::ultsamus::ultdarksamus::ultganondorf:

There's others I use fairly often, but I wouldn't call them main material yet. Like ZSS, Rosalina, Sheik, DeDeDe or Pac-Man.
 

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Alright. Who were your mains in previous Smash games? Who do you think you'll main in Smash Ultimate?

Smash 64: :kirby64::pikachu64:
Melee: :younglinkmelee::kirbymelee::pikachumelee:
Brawl: :lucario::kirby2::squirtle::rob:
Smash Wii U: :4lucario::4littlemac::4cloud2::4rob::4villager::4kirby:
Smash Ultimate: :ultlucario::ultyounglink::ultdaisy::ultisabelle::ultcloud::ultlittlemac::ultinkling::ultpokemontrainer::ultrob::ultkirby::ultpikachu:

I can't drop Kirby I guess.
Smash 64: I didn't play that one, but I probably would've mained :pikachu64::kirby64::mario64:
Melee: I also didn't play that one, but I probably would've mained :pikachumelee::mewtwomelee::bowsermelee:
Brawl: I didn't play that one either, but I definitely would've mained :pikachu2::squirtle::ivysaur::charizard::wario::toonlink:
Smash Wii U: This one I did play! I mained :4corrinf::4charizard::4villager:
Smash Ultimate: :ultinkling::ultpokemontrainer::ultisabelle::ultridley::ultdaisy::ultpikachu::ultkrool::ultsnake::ulticeclimbers:
 

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Man what a time that was. I still have a verrrrrrry loose interest in that game (even though I know absolutely nothing about SMT), but it just looks like a big WTF still. And also Lucina didn't make it in despite appearing in the teaser smh
I bought it used to complete my Wii U collection, but haven't actually tried it yet. It's on my Wii U bucket list, along with Paper Mario Color Splash, Shantae Half-Genie Hero and Devil's Third.

I intend to squeeze every last drop out of that console before it eventually gets replaced in my living room.
 
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So.... I hate to potentially light the house on fire but...

Is Tansut on ResetEra someone in the know or something?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...y-the-music-died.73893/page-124#post-13862616

He claims there's been a legit leak that's "ruffled some feathers recently", but isn't sure which one? Kinda weird but whatever.
The only guess I have is that someone would DM Nintendo of America that Ken got leaked or something. Other than that, possibly the dev team finding out there are people in the know.
 

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Anything on 4chan or GameFAQs posted lately that seems to line up with what that ResetERA guy said?
 

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The strategies will be better as you'll have three different fighters to choose for any given situation. That's why I love that Pokemon Trainer's back. I give up one move, for several. It's subjective, but Pokemon Trainer is better than Charizard in a variety of ways, and I was really disappointed when it was just Charizard in 4 (I loved rock smash, but it's a sacrifice I'm down for).
Being "better" doesn't matter. It's still being forced to use Pokemon you don't want to use.

And losing a move people actually want to use.

Solo Charizard is something people prefer. That's not a feasible option with Pokemon Trainer as is. They aren't looking for better here. They are looking for playing as one character. Which is impossible in Ultimate. Because I don't see a solo Pokemon option being available(especially since they'd have to make new Final Smashes and Down B's for all of them. Though I would be up for a clone of Charizard only using his 4 moveset. Would please a lot of people).

People are actually ignoring the argument they're making. Tiers are meaningless here. They want solo and only solo. It's that simple. Stamina was hardly the issue in the first place and that along with type effectiveness were just weaknesses of the Brawl design, not the only thing that made PT something people weren't interested in. They just want to separately play as each character, without transformations(especially forced) and not missing any moves.
 

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You guys want a leak? I just found one, but it doesn't have any new characters in it. Leaked gameplay of ROB VS Greninja.

It clearly shows that ROB's neutral B has been buffed and Greninja was literally nerfed.
 

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Alright. Who were your mains in previous Smash games? Who do you think you'll main in Smash Ultimate?

Smash 64: :kirby64::pikachu64:
Melee: :younglinkmelee::kirbymelee::pikachumelee:
Brawl: :lucario::kirby2::squirtle::rob:
Smash Wii U: :4lucario::4littlemac::4cloud2::4rob::4villager::4kirby:
Smash Ultimate: :ultlucario::ultyounglink::ultdaisy::ultisabelle::ultcloud::ultlittlemac::ultinkling::ultpokemontrainer::ultrob::ultkirby::ultpikachu:

I can't drop Kirby I guess.
Melee: :falconmelee::jigglypuffmelee::samusmelee:

Brawl: :metaknight::warioc::falcon:

Project M: :ivysaur::samus2::metaknight:

Smash 4: :4jigglypuff::4metaknight::4lucina:

Ultimate: :ultridley::ultmetaknight::ultjigglypuff:

Never really played 64 to any great extend, so put PM instead. Kept it to three per game, I feel like the word 'main' kinda loses meaning if I put every character I like to play on there, but I also think it'd be a bit boring to just put the characters I have below my avatar on there.
 
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Alright. Who were your mains in previous Smash games? Who do you think you'll main in Smash Ultimate?

Smash 64: :kirby64::pikachu64:
Melee: :younglinkmelee::kirbymelee::pikachumelee:
Brawl: :lucario::kirby2::squirtle::rob:
Smash Wii U: :4lucario::4littlemac::4cloud2::4rob::4villager::4kirby:
Smash Ultimate: :ultlucario::ultyounglink::ultdaisy::ultisabelle::ultcloud::ultlittlemac::ultinkling::ultpokemontrainer::ultrob::ultkirby::ultpikachu:

I can't drop Kirby I guess.
Smash 64: :mario64::falcon64:
Melee: :ganondorfmelee::mariomelee::falconmelee::peachmelee:
Brawl: :ganondorf::mario2::falcon::peach::zerosuitsamus:
Smash Wii U: :4ganondorf::4mario::4falcon::4zss::4peach::4palutena:
Smash Ultimate: :ultganondorf::ultmario::ultfalcon::ultzss::ultkrool::ultdaisy::ultridley: (add Medusa and Isaac to this)

Basically Mario, Captain Falcon, Zero Suit Samus, and Ganon are my go to characters.
 

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Yeah, his song is supposed to go with anything. Can't really do that with Ken's.
Ken's Theme is still pretty rad tbh
Even if it's not 100% original
So.... I hate to potentially light the house on fire but...

Is Tansut on ResetEra someone in the know or something?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...y-the-music-died.73893/page-124#post-13862616

He claims there's been a legit leak that's "ruffled some feathers recently", but isn't sure which one? Kinda weird but whatever.
Could it be that one leak with Celica?
the one that also predicted the August Direct and Ashley being an Assist?
 
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So here's an off-topic question loosely related to hype:

What're the games you were the most hyped for ever?

I wonder how many people here will answer with a Smash game.
Since this is off-topic I don't want to acknowledge this post too much as a mod, but for MvC3 I ended up drawing a mural of Mike Haggar on the ceiling of High School Japanese classroom. Recent graduates I've met while at work confirmed to me that it's still there. :shades:

Incineroar is my least favorite of the Sun/Moon starters among other negative things, but I won't deny that it could offer some interesting options and have a lot of personality as a fighter. Like Pac-Man and the Miis, I think many will warm up to it upon reveal. Pokemon fans aren't hard to please from my experience anyway. lol
 
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Guile sucks.

He doesn't have eyebrows, and that is a sin.

*Note*: i need to practice my english
 
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So here's an off-topic question loosely related to hype:

What're the games you were the most hyped for ever?

I wonder how many people here will answer with a Smash game.
- New Super Mario Bros. Wii (DS would probably have been so even more if I had any sort of online presence at the time)
- Super Mario 3D World
- Super Mario Odyssey
- Pokémon Sun/Moon
- Super Smash Bros. 4

I think my eventual impression of X/Y vs. S/M and Brawl vs. 4 (Wii U) should really serve as a cautionary precedent against getting myself overhyped, but alas, here I am again.

At the least, hopefully I'm not setting myself up for my worst case single-player expectations for Ultimate to somehow get dashed as hard as they were for Wii U.
 

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Alright. Who were your mains in previous Smash games? Who do you think you'll main in Smash Ultimate?

Smash 64: :kirby64::pikachu64:
Melee: :younglinkmelee::kirbymelee::pikachumelee:
Brawl: :lucario::kirby2::squirtle::rob:
Smash Wii U: :4lucario::4littlemac::4cloud2::4rob::4villager::4kirby:
Smash Ultimate: :ultlucario::ultyounglink::ultdaisy::ultisabelle::ultcloud::ultlittlemac::ultinkling::ultpokemontrainer::ultrob::ultkirby::ultpikachu:

I can't drop Kirby I guess.
64: :link64::fox64:
Melee: :linkmelee::younglinkmelee::sheikmelee:
Brawl: :zerosuitsamus::link2::zelda:
For: :4lucina::4robinf::4zelda::4mewtwo:
Ultimate: :ultdaisy::ultyounglink::ultrobin:ultzelda::ultlucina::ultcorrin::ultinkling::ultisabelle::ultmewtwo:

I miss Brawl ZSS...
 

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What would your thoughts be if Sakurai realizing he'd gone a little crazy with front loaded reveals kept the rest of the roster secret for surprises to unlock now?
You mean for leakers to leak?

That goes against what he's trying to do now.
 
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- New Super Mario Bros. Wii (DS would probably have been so even more if I had any sort of online presence at the time)
- Super Mario 3D World
- Super Mario Odyssey
- Pokémon Sun/Moon
- Super Smash Bros. 4

I think my eventual impression of X/Y vs. S/M and Brawl vs. 4 (Wii U) should really serve as a cautionary precedent against getting myself overhyped, but alas, here I am again.

At the least, hopefully I'm not setting myself up for my worst case single-player expectations for Ultimate to somehow get dashed as hard as they were for Wii U.
-Crash N Sane Trilogy
-Smash 4
-Metroid Samus Returns
-Metroid Prime 4
-Spyro Reignited Trilogy
-Spider-Man PS4
-Megaman 11
-Kirby Planet Robobot
 

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ZSS's jet boots are still the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Why Sakurai. For what reason. Might as well give Zelda a gun.
 
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