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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Michael the Spikester

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Rex, Spring Man (With maybe Ribbon Girl as an echo) and Octoling are probably the only guarantees at this point that'll be DLC.

Geno too if he's not in Base.
 
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That will be epic.
If his side b was sf3 parry. People would have to remake that epic sf3 video.

I love his inclusion.
According to that one leak, he has his Street Fighter 3 design, does he not?
It's definitely possible...
Also, for those interested in what data mining could unearth, there is the possibility DLC could be spoiled depending on how careless devs are.

It's how Kirby's entire DLC lifespan got spoiled, and tons of down the road stuff for Splatoon 2 leaked this way. We all had a hunch playable Octolings were coming since last year thanks to data mines. Model data was found for a male and female Octoling in player data pretty near launch, so most people knew it was most likely coming. So yeah, DLC is not gonna ever be safe. All we can hope is that Smash's devs are more careful than Splatoon's and Kirby's.
Pretty sure they learned their lesson after Ryu and Roy. All DLC characters after that were just listed as "Mario" in the files.
 
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Also, for those interested in what data mining could unearth, there is the possibility DLC could be spoiled depending on how careless devs are.

It's how Kirby's entire DLC lifespan got spoiled, and tons of down the road stuff for Splatoon 2 leaked this way. We all had a hunch playable Octolings were coming since last year thanks to data mines. Model data was found for a male and female Octolings in player data pretty near launch, so most people knew it was most likely coming. So yeah, DLC is not gonna ever be safe. All we can hope is that Smash's devs are more careful than Splatoon's and Kirby's.
Well. That is programmers for you. Variables of x and temp drive us nuts. Has to be meaningful and specific.
It is in our blood to suck at secrets.
 
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Also, for those interested in what data mining could unearth, there is the possibility DLC could be spoiled depending on how careless devs are.

It's how Kirby's entire DLC lifespan got spoiled, and tons of down the road stuff for Splatoon 2 leaked this way. We all had a hunch playable Octolings were coming since last year thanks to data mines. Model data was found for a male and female Octoling in player data pretty near launch, so most people knew it was most likely coming. So yeah, DLC is not gonna ever be safe. All we can hope is that Smash's devs are more careful than Splatoon's and Kirby's.
That honestly depends on how far ahead DLC is planned this time around. If they're reckless enough to put them in already, then yeah it's definitely possible.
 

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Be careful. Wasn't Wolf considered a guarantee in Smash 4 because we had three vets and Star Fox Zero was getting released soon?
Maybe with Spring Man, Octoling and Geno but considering how much Sakurai loves Xenoblade Chronicles 2 I don't see him passing out on Rex.
 

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Also, for those interested in what data mining could unearth, there is the possibility DLC could be spoiled depending on how careless devs are.

It's how Kirby's entire DLC lifespan got spoiled, and tons of down the road stuff for Splatoon 2 leaked this way. We all had a hunch playable Octolings were coming since last year thanks to data mines. Model data was found for male and female Octolings in player data pretty near launch, so most people knew it was most likely coming. So yeah, DLC is not gonna ever be safe. All we can hope is that Smash's devs are more careful than Splatoon's and Kirby's.
A bit unrelated but I gonna vent a bit here.
I will never like a leaker.
I like the surprise and they tend ruin it for no real reason.
The Ryu for Sm4sh announcement would be really cool, but it really lost a lot of the surprise cause of the spoiler.
And for what, for some guy on the internet to bask in his internet points and his 5 minutes of fame?
 

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I know some people are disappointed to see Galacta Knight as an alt, but I'm just happy Kirby Super Star Ultra specifically is getting some Smash recognition. It's my favorite game of all time, after all. Now maybe we could get everybody's favorite demented, ambiguously communist grape-jester as a boss...
 

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Well. That is programmers for you. Variables of x and temp drive us nuts. Has to be meaningful and specific.
It is in our blood to suck at secrets.
In the meantime us beginner programmers, like myself, spend half an hour figuring out why we have a compile error until we realize we're just missing a semicolon.
 
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That honestly depends on how far ahead DLC is planned this time around. If they're reckless enough to put them in already, then yeah it's definitely possible.
With how game development works, I would be floored if they're not already beginning work on it. Especially with how long Sakurai has stated making and balancing a unique fighter takes, it would not surprise me at all if planning stages for DLC are already going underway or already have been settled on.
 

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Just an aside, i love classic megaman. I would have preferred a second one. Which ones would you guys have chosen?

I would have liked megaman trigger. (Legends)

That game is nostalgia magic for me. I loved it growing up. Still in my top 10.

I would also open the discussion to side characters.

Like, roll echo please.
 

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In the meantime us beginner programmers, like myself, spend half an hour figuring out why we have a compile error until we realize we're just missing a semicolon.
Dont get me started on dependency hell. It is a real thing. And i hate it.

[I hate java]

Goodluck by the way. It is super fun.
 

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Rex, Spring Man (With maybe Ribbon Girl as an echo) and Octoling are probably the only guarantees at this point that'll be DLC.

Geno too if he's not in Base.
I wouldn't say anybody's guaranteed, especially since we don't know how DLC will be handled this time around. That being said, they are the most likely contenders, in the high 90% zone.

Also, watching Nairo streaming Banjo-Kazooie--so much nostalgia. He promised in his Q&A they're coming, so I'm holding him to it. :p
 

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Just an aside, i love classic megaman. I would have preferred a second one. Which ones would you guys have chosen?

I would have liked megaman trigger. (Legends)

That game is nostalgia magic for me. I loved it growing up. Still in my top 10.

I would also open the discussion to side characters.

Like, roll echo please.
Megaman.exe coming with something like codec calls with Lan.
Also some AT of other Netnavis would be cool, with Roll teleporting near someone for an attack, Gutsman working like a reverse Arceus and Protoman working like and Echo AT of Zero
 

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I wouldn't say anybody's guaranteed, especially since we don't know how DLC will be handled this time around. That being said, they are the most likely contenders, in the high 90% zone.

Also, watching Nairo streaming Banjo-Kazooie--so much nostalgia. He promised in his Q&A they're coming, so I'm holding him to it. :p
Maybe I was being a little bold there with what I said but as I said I don't see Sakurai passing on Rex for obvious reasons.
 

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I wouldn't say anybody's guaranteed, especially since we don't know how DLC will be handled this time around. That being said, they are the most likely contenders, in the high 90% zone.

Also, watching Nairo streaming Banjo-Kazooie--so much nostalgia. He promised in his Q&A they're coming, so I'm holding him to it. :p
I hope Microsoft lends banjo. Such a good game.

I bet dlc is already figured out
And i hope it is a season pass. Saves me having to crack open my wallet all the time.

Megaman.exe coming with something like codec calls with Lan.
Also some AT of other Netnavis would be cool, with Roll teleporting near someone for an attack, Gutsman working like a reverse Arceus and Protoman working like and Echo AT of Zero
Is it weird that my most exposure with megaman.exe was onimusha blade warriors?

I really need to go back to those.
 
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A little PSA if you will, this lea
Chorus Kids/Rhythm Heaven supporters had a premature celebration during Smash 4, and what was the end result? The final roster hit them pretty hard.
I'm still crying over this...
And I wasn't even an RH fan then...

Anyways, assuming neither are in base, do you guys think both Steve and Banjo Kazooie will be DLC around the same time?
 
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3DS, WII U, and Switch era characters are pretty safe bets I'd say. Nintendo most likely wants DLC characters to be things they know will sell, so I'd say DLC will probably feature a lot of recent characters. At the very least, I personally am 100% convinced Spring Man and Ribbon Girl will be among the first. I wanna say Octolings will be pretty high up there as well, but I honestly don't know.
 

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I just realized we are near 5500 posts. Nice.

Given we are near the middle of october, are we expecting 1 more direct or 2?

Feela like 1 unless we get an announcement next week
I'm kinda expecting one big one in late October, with maybe something announced at the Game Awards, probably DLC if anything.
 

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Also, for those interested in what data mining could unearth, there is the possibility DLC could be spoiled depending on how careless devs are.

It's how Kirby's entire DLC lifespan got spoiled, and tons of down the road stuff for Splatoon 2 leaked this way. We all had a hunch playable Octolings were coming since last year thanks to data mines. Model data was found for male and female Octolings in player data pretty near launch, so most people knew it was most likely coming. So yeah, DLC is not gonna ever be safe. All we can hope is that Smash's devs are more careful than Splatoon's and Kirby's.
I mean, that's how we found Ryu and Roy before they were revealed. :V

I'm sure Sakurai would have remembered that going into Ultimate.
 

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I hope Microsoft lends banjo. Such a good game.

I bet dlc is already figured out
And i hope it is a season pass. Saves me having to crack open my wallet all the time.



Is it weird that my most exposure with megaman.exe was onimusha blade warriors?

I really need to go back to those.
Microsoft's rumored to be on board with Smash, which is the highest chance we've ever had. And as I've mentioned, I find it hard to believe Microsoft/Rare would go back to the N64 design for their anniversary merch this year--more like a Sakurai decision to go with their Nintendo designs. We'll have to wait and see. :upsidedown:
 

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I just want the final news to drop so everyone will stop fighting. Talking about what you’re excited for is much more fun than trying to defend your opinion or restate facts that others overlook, at least in my opinion. I can feel the underlying hostility and lack of satisfaction from a good chunk of this board, even from a few people I’ve grown to really appreciate over the past few months.

Sakurai, deliver us from evil. Reveal the final characters so the fighting can stop, so the tired arguments can be put to rest, and the fandoms can at least be certain on the fate of their characters.
 

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I'm curious because I wanted to know y'all's take on it, but have y'all covered the recent Raiden and Zach leak that's in like the same style of the Ken leak?
Woah woah woah, what? First we had that super-credible Noipoi image leak from earlier today, but now I'm in the game to? Is all of Smashboards going to be playable?

Is Zinith finally going to be our second Yoshi rep?
 
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3DS, WII U, and Switch era characters are pretty safe bets I'd say. Nintendo most likely wants DLC characters to be things they know will sell, so I'd say DLC will probably feature a lot of recent characters. At the very least, I personally am 100% convinced Spring Man and Ribbon Girl will be among the first. I wanna say Octolings will be pretty high up there as well, but I honestly don't know.
I want Ryu (not :ultryu:)! Seriously, we need a third ninja to complete the trio with :ultgreninja: and :ultsheik:, and swords couldn't hurt to see. And there's always the sweet music and stages that come with Ninja Gaiden content.

I'll wait for DLC, if it's the only way.
 

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Microsoft's rumored to be on board with Smash, which is the highest chance we've ever had. And as I've mentioned, I find it hard to believe Microsoft/Rare would go back to the N64 design for their anniversary merch this year--more like a Sakurai decision to go with their Nintendo designs. We'll have to wait and see. :upsidedown:
Please please please please be dlc.
Spiral mountain stage.
Remix tracks.
Mumbo at.
Gruntilda spirits boss.

Worth 10 bucks.
 
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I mean, that's how we found Ryu and Roy before they were revealed. :V

I'm sure Sakurai would have remembered that going into Ultimate.
Hopefully. I would hate to see things slip through the cracks again.

Also, on the topic of Steve, I think DLC is a strong possibility. Banjo and Kazooie are tough. On one hand, I could see it happening, yeah. On the other hand, it really depends on if it's between it or Minecraft.
 

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3DS, WII U, and Switch era characters are pretty safe bets I'd say. Nintendo most likely wants DLC characters to be things they know will sell, so I'd say DLC will probably feature a lot of recent characters. At the very least, I personally am 100% convinced Spring Man and Ribbon Girl will be among the first. I wanna say Octolings will be pretty high up there as well, but I honestly don't know.
If that's the case I personally expect a Gen 8 Pokemon then.

50/50 with an TH FE rep because I remember Corrin caused quite some backlash.
 

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I want Ryu (not :ultryu:)! Seriously, we need a third ninja to complete the trio with :ultgreninja: and :ultsheik:, and swords couldn't hurt to see. And there's always the sweet music and stages that come with Ninja Gaiden content.

I'll wait for DLC, if it's the only way.
How about breath of fire ryu? All 5 of them can be seperate costumes. Throw teepo in for good measue.
 

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Just an aside, i love classic megaman. I would have preferred a second one. Which ones would you guys have chosen?

I would have liked megaman trigger. (Legends)

That game is nostalgia magic for me. I loved it growing up. Still in my top 10.

I would also open the discussion to side characters.

Like, roll echo please.
I would have to pick X if I only had one choice. Mega Man X remains as one of my favorite platformers to this day, and I had just as much fun replaying it through the MMX Legacy Collection as I did years ago. That bangin' Central Highway remix from the 8.8 Direct really brought out the nostalgia for me, and it would be amazing to have a Central Highway stage in Smash.

I'd love Tron Bonne as a Legends rep though, I've always had a soft spot for her. Plus, she was one of my mains in both MvC2 and MvC3, she was so much fun to use and I love her personality. The Servbots would be really great in Smash too, I can just imagine how happy they would be out on the battlefield.

Volnutt would make for an interesting choice as well, and if it meant Roll Casket could make it in, I'd be all for it. :)
 

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I hope Microsoft lends banjo. Such a good game.

I bet dlc is already figured out
And i hope it is a season pass. Saves me having to crack open my wallet all the time.



Is it weird that my most exposure with megaman.exe was onimusha blade warriors?

I really need to go back to those.
I crazy recomend the Battle Network games if you like Action RPGs
But trust me, the first game is pointy on the edges, making you bleed and die of tetanus.
Just take care if you are annoyed by high encounter rates.
 

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How about breath of fire ryu? All 5 of them can be seperate costumes. Throw teepo in for good measue.
I forgot about the many Ryus we have overall. Oh, imagine Xander Mobus recording their names over and over again.

As for Hayabusa, maybe he can get the :ultlink::ultike::ultcloud: treatment, and get two different types of costumes, being the original and later design.
 

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3DS, WII U, and Switch era characters are pretty safe bets I'd say. Nintendo most likely wants DLC characters to be things they know will sell, so I'd say DLC will probably feature a lot of recent characters. At the very least, I personally am 100% convinced Spring Man and Ribbon Girl will be among the first. I wanna say Octolings will be pretty high up there as well, but I honestly don't know.
If we're going all the way back to the Wii U for DLC, we need some Wonderful 101 love. I haven't played the game, and even I know that would have awesome moveset possibilities.

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If that's the case I personally expect a Gen 8 Pokemon then.

50/50 with an TH FE rep because I remember Corrin caused quite some backlash.
Fire Emblem always causes backlash, and Sakurai doesn't care--even explaining his decisions on FE being strategic. I'd say Edelgard (?) is in the high 90% in terms of possibility.
 
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