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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Noipoi

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Yeah, yeah, there is. It's not a small game. It's still pretty big. If they've shown "most", then that means there's still clearly a lot left.
I dunno, it looks like it was specifically designed to be small.

When I think big games I think Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey. Pikachu and Eevee are certainly not that big, and they were designed that way.

The games are intentionally simplified and lacking content so as to not overwhelm little kids and GO players, that seems like the opposite of big to me.
 
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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
 
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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. HOWEVER, that fighter is now for real IRL and you are best friends with them.

Whomst do you remove?
:ultcorrin:

The one no one asked for.
 

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Oh, I know, it was just a thought that popped in my head and I thought it'd be better to edit my post rather than make a new one. It was just speculation on my part, wasn't directing anything at you. :)
Speaking of that, I could see them announcing a Smash direct at the end of it, not unlike EVO. But I doubt we'd get anything beyond that, if even that.

I dunno, it looks like it was specifically designed to be small.

When I think big games I think Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey. Pikachu and Eevee are certainly not that big, and they were designed that way.

The games are intentionally simplified and lacking content so as to not overwhelm little kids and GO players, that seems like the opposite of big to me.
They're not "small" games regardless. They don't lack a lot of content and are still rather big overall.

Comparing it to severely huge games won't change that. Like, games like BOTW are way bigger than some would be used to anyway. There's so much content that some Final Fantasy games are put to shame by its size. And that was before the DLC made it even huger.
 

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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. HOWEVER, that fighter is now for real IRL and you are best friends with them.

Whomst do you remove?
Mario seems like he'd be a great friend.

He's always down for a party, I've known him since I was a kid, he'll rescue you from a dragon turtle.

Mario's cool.
 

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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
I feel like that's a question that's tailored specifically to me :yoshi:
 
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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. HOWEVER, that fighter is now for real IRL and you are best friends with them.

Whomst do you remove?
Hmm...

Luigi is the broest of bros and would probably be my first pick, on the other hand, Inklings are adorable and could teach me the ultimate secrets of being fresh.

I have reached a dilemma. :dizzy:
 

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Pokemon Direct is unlikely, as they usually include game announcements. To announce Gen8 for next year right after LGPE content showcase, I feel it would damper LGPE right before release
 

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We're gonna get quick little trailers every week for the next month and a half until the games out. nothing Smash related is gonna come out of Pikachu and Eevee. I know this because Smash is good, and nothing good comes out of Pikachu and Eevee.
yet i'm still buying it.
Me too I see it as a cute demo (That I'm shelling out a lot of money for) in support for all good quality of life things it has in it
 

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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
Probably Bayonetta to finally shut down the salt mine, but because nobody can see umbra witches shed end up being an IMAGINARY friend.
 

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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
Id wanna hang with Falcon or Little Mac most compared to everyone else but I want to play as both of them too so this is hard
 

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They're not "small" games regardless. They don't lack a lot of content and are still rather big overall.

Comparing it to severely huge games won't change that. Like, games like BOTW are way bigger than some would be used to anyway. There's so much content that some Final Fantasy games are put to shame by its size. And that was before the DLC made it even huger.
They seem pretty small, mate. At least smaller than other recent Pokemon games in everything except scale. Comparing it to BOTW was a little unfair i'll admit, but can you honestly tell me these games look like they'll be huge? Kanto is the exact same it's been for 20 years, the only difference is the fact that it's in 3D. Even the human models are smaller than Sun and Moon's. I guarantee you there will be no post-game content aside from Mewtwo. These are games you play once and then put them away, and to me that's a small game.

And what do you mean they're not lacking a lot of content? Abilities, held items, breeding, wild battles, any Pokemon after the first 151. That's content that isn't in the game, meaning it's lacking content.
 

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1. Mortal Kombat
2. SoulCalibur
3. ARMs (does this count?)
4. Killer Instinct
5. Tekken
6. King of Fighters
7. Darkstalkers
8. Clayfighters
9. Samurai Showdown
10. Primal Rage

Going from most wanted to, lol’worthy
Oh, I was gone for a while. Yeah, ARMS counts.

1. Pretty much as the same as Smash 4 Link.
2. Not sure.
3. Didn’t get to check his alt stock icons...I really like tunic of wild.
4.The only times I used arrows was to snipe my brother when he was off the stage so...I dunno.
5. Didn’t really check. I was in the middle of battle, and was pretty concentrated.
That's fine. Is there anything you found personally interesting about him though?
 

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So if there's barely going to be much Smash showcasing, and PLG will supposedly just have trickles of info, then what the heck will they show for the next two months? Dead air?

The lack of Mario Party content is really weird to me.
There's like 4 Mario Kart stages but no other spinoffs.

If we were to get a stage it'd be hard to pick but I think either the Peach Cake level from MP1
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or the final level from MP3.
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I suspect they ran into licensing issues in regards to the fact that most earlier titles were made by Hudson Soft. Now that they're assimilated into Konami, there shouldn't be much to stop any of it to get into Smash now, in theory.
 
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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
this is pretty damn easy
:ultpichu:
Useless and pretty pointless in smash but a pet pichu would be lit
 
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It is probably fair to say the Let's Go games aren't too huge a deal compared to a brand new Pokemon gen. They aren't quite spin-offs, yes, but they're not mainlines either. They exist in the weird Pokemon game limbo I like to call "For the love of all that is good, please stop revisiting Kanto every 5 seconds and do something new PLEASE Game Freak WHY" games.

They'll probably still be fun, though. :p
 

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Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
Huh, that's actually a pretty interesting question. Honestly, I'd have to pick Rosalina, especially since she seems to have an appreciation for music and is already an excellent storyteller. The fact that she can play the guitar is a plus in my book. :)

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Why do I always have to see this in literally any corner of the internet? It's getting tiresome.

I did. Let me enjoy Corrin in peace

Man I hope we get two more Fire Emblem characters and one DLC
I still hold on the unpopular opinion that male Corrin is better than female Corrin, and I don't regret anything.
 

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They seem pretty small, mate. At least smaller than other recent Pokemon games in everything except scale. Comparing it to BOTW was a little unfair i'll admit, but can you honestly tell me these games look like they'll be huge? Kanto is the exact same it's been for 20 years, the only difference is the fact that it's in 3D. Even the human models are smaller than Sun and Moon's. I guarantee you there will be no post-game content aside from Mewtwo. These are games you play once and then put them away, and to me that's a small game.

And what do you mean they're not lacking a lot of content? Abilities, held items, breeding, wild battles, any Pokemon after the first 151. That's content that isn't in the game, meaning it's lacking content.
Kanto isn't a small region by any means, so...

Yeah, I'd still call it big. Every region has been reasonably big. It's a region. Not a town.
 

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Stop by and rest a little.


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Kanto isn't a small region by any means, so...

Yeah, I'd still call it big. Every region has been reasonably big. It's a region. Not a town.
Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby were remakes too and didn't get a Direct, did they? I honestly can't remember. If they did, then maybe these ones will.
 

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Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby were remakes too and didn't get a Direct, did they? I honestly can't remember. If they did, then maybe these ones will.
Hmm, good point. Though they're conventional remakes, so who knows. I'm not expecting one, but I doubt in the "lack of content" factor.
 

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Kanto isn't a small region by any means, so...

Yeah, I'd still call it big. Every region has been reasonably big. It's a region. Not a town.
I dunno. I'm sure they'll be fine, and I don't even hate these games really. I just get frustrated because whenever I tell someone i'm not exactly excited I get crapped on like i'm not a real Pokemon fan because I don't like ONE game. I shouldn't have started an argument with you, i'm sorry.
 

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If I could bring any fighter into real life from Ultimate...?

Uh...probably Pichu; Pikachu is my favorite Pokemon, and I like Pichu and Raichu as well, so it'd be really cool :)

or maybe female Corrin
 
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Honestly, the only Fire Emblem we're ever gonna get after Chrom I feel is gonna be Edelgard from the newest Fire Emblem. It's been a bit of a tradition to add in a character from the newest Fire Emblem games, so I expect her to be revealed as DLC after Ultimate comes out.
 
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I dunno. I'm sure they'll be fine, and I don't even hate these games really. I just get frustrated because whenever I tell someone i'm not exactly excited I get crapped on like i'm not a real Pokemon fan because I don't like ONE game. I shouldn't have started an argument with you, i'm sorry.
Honestly, no reason you should like them.

It's up to you to like something. But whether you like something or not doesn't really affect whether it'll get a direct or not.
 

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Honestly, the only Fire Emblem we're ever gonna get after Chrom I feel is gonna be Edelgard from the newest Fire Emblem. It's been a bit of a tradition to add in a character from the newest Fire Emblem games, so I expect her to be revealed as DLC after Ultimate comes out.
Meanwhile, the twins from FE Warriors will remain in obscurity, alone and unloved. I wonder if they're stuck in a similar situation to Geno and must require Koei Tecmo's approval before being used.
 

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Honestly, the only Fire Emblem we're ever gonna get after Chrom I feel is gonna be Edelgard from the newest Fire Emblem. It's been a bit of a tradition to add in a character from the newest Fire Emblem games, so I expect her to be revealed as DLC after Ultimate comes out.
I don't think FE will get another unique newcomer. There is already to many FE characters and unlike Corrin Edelgard isn't unique enough to justify her inclusion.
 

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I don't think FE will get another unique newcomer. There is already to many FE characters and unlike Corrin Edelgard isn't unique enough to justify her inclusion.
Well some people say no more Fire Emblem characters and these same people are requesting for Elegard from Three houses, i'd say we may get another FE character
 

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I don't think FE will get another unique newcomer. There is already to many FE characters and unlike Corrin Edelgard isn't unique enough to justify her inclusion.
>Unlike Corrin this character who we know almost nothing about isn't unique enough
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Corrin never got in because he was "unique enough". He's an ad slot, promoting that hot garbage new game of Fates.
 
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Well some people say no more Fire Emblem characters and these same people are requesting for Elegard from Three houses, i'd say we may get another FE character
They can add any other character in gaming I'd rather them not. Other series like Zelda and Kirby should be getting newcomers over it.

>Unlike Corrin this character who we know almost nothing about isn't unique enough
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Corrin never got in because he was "unique enough". He's an ad slot, promoting that hot garbage new game of Fates.
He did get in because he is unique. Sakurai thought there were too many FE character BEFORE CORRIN but because of his unique dragon powers he was chosen to be the advertisement. Elgard is just a boring axe user who wouldn't be all that different to Ike.
 

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>Unlike Corrin this character who we know almost nothing about isn't unique enough
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Corrin never got in because he was "unique enough". He's an ad slot, promoting that hot garbage new game of Fates.
Yes he was. That is why Sakurai added him in the first place. If it wasn’t for his shapeshifting or Intelligent Systems showing Corrin to him in the first place, he most likely would’ve added Elma.
 
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Huh, that's actually a pretty interesting question. Honestly, I'd have to pick Rosalina, especially since she seems to have an appreciation for music and is already an excellent storyteller. The fact that she can play the guitar is a plus in my book. :)

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I rename her Rosaleen the Space Pyre Queen

Since I ain't got time for no Pokemon You Wanna Go, Tough Guy? Let's Go, here's an idea:

You are forced to remove one character from the ultimate roster. However, that fighter is now for real (that's right, IRL) and you are best friends with them.

Assume they retain their personalities and abilities.

Whomst do you remove?
Mewtwo’s gone. I’ve done without him in Brawl and when Four launched. It sucks and he’ll be missed, but there now would be an amoral psychic monster that considers me a friend.
 
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I don't think FE will get another unique newcomer. There is already to many FE characters and unlike Corrin Edelgard isn't unique enough to justify her inclusion.
Just wait and see, because she'll be promoted as new DLC character before her game comes out. this will be same case with Roy and Corrin, mark my word on this one.
 

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He did get in because he is unique. Sakurai thought there were too many FE character BEFORE CORRIN but because of his unique dragon powers he was chosen to be the advertisement. Elgard is just a boring axe user who wouldn't be all that different to Ike.
I can just hear those unsubstantiated claims. Smells like no sources.
You didn't even bother to spell her name right to call her out despite knowing nothing about her. You just ****ing Chrom'd her, dude, no mercy.
 
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Just wait and see, because she'll be promoted as new DLC character before her game comes out. this will be same case with Roy and Corrin, mark my word on this one.
Elgard isn't even the main character of her game though.
 
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