Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Shroob]

Oh I think the website didn’t update again on smashbros

Now I’m almost positive we will get new stuff when the direct comes

Monday is probably a new stage or unique number 2

It's already Monday in Japan.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I never played it any Mass Effect, but I heard about the backlash ME3 got. But I feel liked it pale in comparison to Andromeda, yikes. But not as yikes their faces in Andromeda.

There’s thankfully a fan made mod that fixes a LOT of the things wrong with Andromeda

 

[Chrono.]

We can't say for certain it's due to Smash.

It could very easily be due to the XB2 DLC.

He means Isaac the tropical storm.

 

[John Dylan Smith]

Yes!!! Finally.. .

Dude! It's a troll post! In which case! I have this to say!

Mod Edit: Don't dodge the censors.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

???

The Layton series had a new game last year and an HD remake this year. Plus Level-5 confirmed a new game in the works last year that will most probably be revealed at next month Level-5 Vision.

The Layton series is still very alive and kicking.

Did it really? I heard nothing about them at all. I keep up to date on Nintendo releases and the gaming scene and I actually didn't know that. Layton is a large series, but it's kinda difficult to find that out.

There’s thankfully a fan made mod that fixes a LOT of the things wrong with Andromeda

It's sad when fans have to do what the actual developers of the game should've done though.

 

[SquashiniKun]

God, i just want the new date of the direct to be announced already to get this thread back to normal.

 

[Chandeelure]

Well guys, the Nintendo Direct thirst is just too strong.

This is the end for me.

Please, remember me.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So this is random but I was talking with a friend of mine about Isaac and asked what he thought his chances were. This was his response.
"Hmmm... Isaac... I don't know... there are too many Fire Emblem characters"

You heard it here first guys every anime swordsman is now considered a Fire Emblem character...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The only reason to delay the direct a bit longer is that it's not just simply being on 9/11 itself. Yeah, there's no reason to delay it anymore since it's been a very very long time since that horrible event(I remember it well, growing up in the US). However, they recently had a disastrous event, so it would make to put it at a different date only this time due to a unique situation. If they don't, they don't.

 

[Dee Dude]

Small random thought: Since can cover fighters and assist trophies in Ink (which is one of my favorite features so far and it’s annoys me that most players barely ink in the demos |:V)

Do you think bosses and enemies can be inked too?

 

[Iridium]

Marth but:

1. He has his Melee grab distance
2. His sword now has the range of Cloud's sword
3. There's an extended tipper on the first third of the blade
4. He's got his Ultimate changes (faster dancing blade)
5. Dancing blade's recovery properties from Melee
6. There's no frame lag on any moves
7. He has slightly faster movement speed and is more difficult to KO
8. Shield breaker kills instantly if it breaks your shield
9. Shield breaker propels Marth forward, but still has full power
10. Dolphin slash has double the vertical recovery
11. Down-air always either meteor smashes or spikes

Seriously though, why did Dancing Blade's third hit have to spike in Melee/Brawl?

Edit: I know it looks cool, but still.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

That one Raichu fan; "You know ... Now with echoes, and Pichu being back, wouldn't it be cool if Rai--"

Everyone; "NO! GET LOST RAICHU."

*Raichu never spoke again*

Best line of the whole dialogue

So this is random but I was talking with a friend of mine about Isaac and asked what he thought his chances were. This was his response.
"Hmmm... Isaac... I don't know... there are too many Fire Emblem characters"

You heard it here first guys every anime swordsman is now considered a Fire Emblem character...

Then I suppose that are Fire Emblem characters too?

Link and Cloud for Ranger confirmed

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well guys, the Nintendo Direct thirst is just too strong.

This is the end for me.

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Please, remember me.

I will burn a Bandanna Dee plushie when you evaporate to celebrate the end.

 

[ZephyrZ]

If Captain Falcon ever hits you Raptor Boost, he triggers a cutscene in which he forces you to sit down on a random chair to think about how you got hit for the rest of the game.

This would actually end up making a lot of people much better at the game. I fully support this change 100%.

Actually, let's do this with every bad move bad players like to throw out haphazardly. Zard's Flare Blitz, Jigglypuff's Rollout, Little Mac's neutral B, ect.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Small random thought: Since can cover fighters and assist trophies in Ink (which is one of my favorite features so far and it’s annoys me that most players barely ink in the demos |:V)

Do you think bosses and enemies can be inked too?

Probably...

 

[smileMasky]

-Capcom: Mons

A Little Game for you all to pass some time:

Choose ONE Character to join Smash from each company!

-Capcom
-Namco Bandai
-Square Enix
-Blizzard
-Riot Games
-Ubisoft
-Atlus
-SEGA
-Nintendo
-Valve
-Sony
-Microsoft
-Atari
-SNK
-Arc System Works
-BioWare
-NetherRealm
-Monolith Soft
-Platinum Games
-From Software
-Bethesda
-Rockstar
-Marvelous
-Naughty Dog
-Vicarious Visions
-Activision

-Capcom: Monster Hunter
-Namco Bandai: Klonoa
-Square Enix: Bub/Bob (Bubble Bobble)
-Blizzard: nope
-Riot Games: Nope
-Ubisoft: Rayman
-Atlus: Yu Narukami (Persona 4)
-SEGA: Beat (Jet Set Radio)
-Nintendo: Bandana Dee
-Valve: nope
-Sony: nope
-Microsoft: nope
-Atari: none
-SNK: Marco Rossi (Metal Slug)
-Arc System Works: Ragna the Blood Edge (BlazBlue)
-BioWare: none
-NetherRealm: none
-Monolith Soft: Elma
-Platinum Games: 2B (Nier Automata)
-From Software: none
-Bethesda: none
-Rockstar: Nope
-Marvelous: Asuka (Senran Kagura)
-Naughty Dog: none
-Vicarious Visions: none
-Activision: none

added bonus
-Konami: Django (Boktai)
-NIS America: Hero Prinny (Disgaea)

 

[Curious Villager]

Did it really? I heard nothing about them at all. I keep up to date on Nintendo releases and the gaming scene and I actually didn't know that. Layton is a large series, but it's kinda difficult to find that out.

Layton's Mystery Journey had quite a large coverage as it came out during the series 10th anniversary and was the first title to feature a new protagonist. Curious Village HD has been out in Japan for a few month's now. But the English release has just been announced so that's a bit more understandable.

An anime for the Layton series has also been released this year, though that one hasn't had an official localization yet, but most likely will be announced soon too.

 

[Sharkarat]

A Little Game for you all to pass some time:

Choose ONE Character to join Smash from each company!

-Capcom:
-Namco Bandai:
-Square Enix:
-Blizzard:
-Riot Games:
-Ubisoft:
-Atlus:
-SEGA:
-Nintendo:
-Valve:
-Sony:
-Microsoft:
-Atari:
-SNK
-Arc System Works
-BioWare
-NetherRealm
-Monolith Soft
-Platinum Games
-From Software
-Bethesda
-Rockstar
-Marvelous
-Naughty Dog
-Vicarious Visions
-Activision

-Capcom: Nemesis (Resident Evil)
-Namco Bandai: Agumon (Digimon) or Nemesis
-Square Enix: Bub/Bob (Bubble Bobble)
-Blizzard: Tracer (Overwatch)
-Riot Games: Azir (LoL)
-Ubisoft: Sandro (Heroes of Might & Magic)
-Atlus: Jack Frost
-SEGA: Shadow or Something
-Nintendo: Isaac (Golden Sun)
-Valve: TF2 Character
-Sony: Ratchet & Clank
-Microsoft: Banjo & Kazooie
-Atari: Yar (Yar's Revenge)

Okay this one actually was kinda hard, Atari really doesn't have many characters. Kinda want to try making a moveset for this. (would be like Pac-man and take inspiration from more than his own game).​

-SNK: King of Dinosaurs (KOF)
-Arc System Works Arakune (Blazblue)
-BioWare: Commander Shepard
-NetherRealm: Scorpion (mortal Kombat)
-Monolith Soft: Elma
-Platinum Games: ?
-From Software: Solaire (Dark Souls)
-Bethesda: Doom Slayer
-Rockstar: ?
-Marvelous: Harvest Moon Char
-Naughty Dog: Crash Bandicoot
-Vicarious Visions: SpongeBob
-Activision: Spyro

 

[Iridium]

Small random thought: Since can cover fighters and assist trophies in Ink (which is one of my favorite features so far and it’s annoys me that most players barely ink in the demos |:V)

Do you think bosses and enemies can be inked too?

Not sure, but inking Dracula sure would look silly! And definitely Rathalos.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Yeah. Not all Nintendo fans are American.

Just not all Nintendo fans have the name of Riley
Or not all of the Nintendo fans are hearing
Or not all of the Nintendo fans like Smash Bros Don't hate me I'm sure there are some in the world that does

You were saying?


At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up on Tuesday. But I do question how Famitsu will leak certain information out before Nintendo does if it comes to new information.

 

[MBRedboy31]

Small random thought: Since can cover fighters and assist trophies in Ink (which is one of my favorite features so far and it’s annoys me that most players barely ink in the demos |:V)

Do you think bosses and enemies can be inked too?

Well, it depends on what kind of entity the game considers the boss to be. Since Rathalos is both an AT and a boss, are both uses of it the same kind of entity? Are all of the bosses the same kind of entity, too?
On another note in the ink’s favor, it isn’t completely unheard of for bosses to be affected by negative status; you can use Witch Time on Master Hand / ect. in Smash 4.

 

[Iridium]

I still need to see that Smash Bros. anime happen. Anything that gives the characters even more personality (they definitely already show more compared to SSB4). Not to say they don't show any.

 

[Dee Dude]

Also, since most Final Smashes are cinematic/straightforward now, what if ’s new Final Smash became a cutscene where she forces her opponents into a tea party and them drinking the tea she made was revolting KOing them out of disgust?

‘s will be probably be like and /‘s while keeps his dragon mode but turns it into a cutesy version of ‘s or alternatively a simple beam attack.

 

[Abha]

Well, it depends on what kind of entity the game considers the boss to be. Since Rathalos is both an AT and a boss, are both uses of it the same kind of entity? Are all of the bosses the same kind of entity, too?
On another note in the ink’s favor, it isn’t completely unheard of for bosses to be affected by negative status; you can use Witch Time on Master Hand / ect. in Smash 4.

Inkling confirmed for the DPS of Smash Ultimate boss raids

 

[Idon]

Actually, in terms of "iconic game characters that represent an entire genre" I'd say Capcom in general has a large amount of icons. By far the closest amount to Nintendo's amount

Platformer: Megaman
Fighting Game: Ryu
Beat 'Em Up: Cody from Final Fight
Horror: Chris Redfield from Resident Evil/Biohazard
Visual Novel: Saber from Fate/Stay, but that has porn in it so the next guy's Phoenix Wright from Ace Attorney
Hunting: Monster Hunter
And of course,
Action RPG:

 

[Blargg888]

This thread right now:

Marth but:

1. He has his Melee grab distance
2. His sword now has the range of Cloud's sword
3. There's an extended tipper on the first third of the blade
4. He's got his Ultimate changes (faster dancing blade)
5. Dancing blade's recovery properties from Melee
6. There's no frame lag on any moves
7. He has slightly faster movement speed and is more difficult to KO
8. Shield breaker kills instantly if it breaks your shield
9. Shield breaker propels Marth forward, but still has full power
10. Dolphin slash has double the vertical recovery
11. Down-air always either meteor smashes or spikes

I feel like I just had a terrible nightmare.

 

[Zippo]

Not sure why this person is expecting this, because corocoro barely covers Smash, but for some reason, they're expecting Smash info to leak from the latest issue soon.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

This would actually end up making a lot of people much better at the game. I fully support this change 100%.

Actually, let's do this with every bad move bad players like to throw out haphazardly. Zard's Flare Blitz, Jigglypuff's Rollout, Little Mac's neutral B, ect.

Raptor Boost is fast and can hit reasonably so.

Now if you want a move nobody should be getting hit with(and I don't mean Warlock Punch), but Volcano Kick. Like, it's easier to telegraph than most moves in the game(if not all), and is slow and easy to block.

 

[BluePikmin11]

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Not sure why this person is expecting this, because corocoro barely covers Smash, but for some reason, they're expecting Smash info to leak from the latest issue soon.

Maybe the Pokemon newcomer is being revealed on that magazine maybe?

 

[Iridium]

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Not sure why this person is expecting this, because corocoro barely covers Smash, but for some reason, someone is expecting Smash info to lesk from the latest issue soon.

Kurogane Hammer? You can ask him right here about this, whenever he shows up.

If Pokémon content is focused on, then this would make sense.

 

[Idon]

This thread right now:
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I feel like I just had a terrible nightmare.

I'm kidding, we Danganronpa bros for life.

 

[Shroob]

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Not sure why this person is expecting this, because corocoro barely covers Smash, but for some reason, they're expecting Smash info to leak from the latest issue soon.

If the newcomer was a Pokemon, would they cover it? CoroCoro is primarily the "Pokemon" book.

 

[Crap-Zapper]

A Little Game for you all to pass some time:

Choose ONE Character to join Smash from each company!

-Capcom
-Namco Bandai
-Square Enix
-Blizzard
-Riot Games
-Ubisoft
-Atlus
-SEGA
-Nintendo
-Valve
-Sony
-Microsoft
-Atari
-SNK
-Arc System Works
-BioWare
-NetherRealm
-Monolith Soft
-Platinum Games
-From Software
-Bethesda
-Rockstar
-Marvelous
-Naughty Dog
-Vicarious Visions
-Activision

Alright, I don't know if I know all of them well enough, but let's try;

Capcom = Morrigan Aensland. It was a real hard choice ...
Namco Bandai = Heihachi Mishima would be the perfect suit.
Square Enix = Geno boii.
Blizzard = Lich King? I don't know **** about any of their properties.
Riot Games = Jinx. I literally had to search up who they were.
Ubisoft = Rayman is the one I'd go for.
Atlus = Joker or Jack Frost. Can't decide, but a Persona it is.
SEGA = NiGHTS. I rather want Beat or Eggman, but NiGHTS is creative.
Nintendo = King K. Oh wait ... Uhm. Lip.
Valve = Gordon Freeman I guess.
Sony = Hard one, but I'll say Kratos-
Microsoft = Banjo & Kazooie, yes. I'd still pick Rare.
Atari = Centepide. I really had to search long for anything here.
SNK = Haohmaru from Samurai Shodown.
Arc System Works = Ragna the Bloodedge.
BioWare = Commander Shepard I guess.
NetherRealm = Scorpion. Sub-Zero could be an echo? Idk.
Monolith Soft = Elma, nuff said.
Platinum Games = JACK CAYMAN OH YEAH.
From Software = Solaire, I guess.
Bethesda = Dovahkiin.
Rockstar = While GTA is important VG vise, I think John Marston wins this one.
Marvelous = Yumi from Senran Kagura. Seriously I had no clue, I went through their wiki page and picked a random game, and I somehow picked a hentai game it looks like. Wow.
Naughty Dog = Nathan Drake I guess.
Vicarious Visions = Robot on the game "Mixed Messages", like seriously, did they ever create something of their own? I feel like all they have done is work on titles belonging to Activision. (which is a choice of another company)
Activision = Crash Bandicoot no doubt. Next biggest icon not yet in Smash (fight me)

Some of these were really hard to pick, or even figure out what to go for ... I even learned a thing or two by Googling.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

A Little Game for you all to pass some time:

Choose ONE Character to join Smash from each company!

-Capcom
-Namco Bandai
-Square Enix
-Blizzard
-Riot Games
-Ubisoft
-Atlus
-SEGA
-Nintendo
-Valve
-Sony
-Microsoft
-Atari
-SNK
-Arc System Works
-BioWare
-NetherRealm
-Monolith Soft
-Platinum Games
-From Software
-Bethesda
-Rockstar
-Marvelous
-Naughty Dog
-Vicarious Visions
-Activision

Mine

-Capcom Phoenix Wright
-Namco Bandai Agumon
-Square Enix Lara Croft
-Blizzard Warcraftian
-Riot Games Any LoL Character
-Ubisoft Jade
-Atlus Cubivore
-SEGA Segata Sanshiro
-Nintendo Any Rhythm Heaven Rep
-Valve Gordon Freeman
-Sony Q*Bert
-Microsoft Master Chief
-Atari Pong Paddles
-SNK Any KoF Character
-Arc System Works ????
-BioWare Commander Shepard
-NetherRealm Scorpion
-Monolith Soft Elma
-Platinum Games Wonder Red
-From Software Solaire
-Bethesda Dragonborn
-Rockstar Big Smoke
-Marvelous Harvest Moon Farmer
-Naughty Dog Crash
-Vicarious Visions ???
-Activision Crash

 

[MojoRobo]

If Captain Falcon ever hits you with Raptor Boost, he triggers a cutscene in which he forces you to sit down on a random chair to think about how you got hit for the rest of the game. If you are offstage, you die 5 seconds later instead.

Bruh have you ever seen or fought good Falcon players? I swear their signature move is killing you with Raptor Boost when you least expect it. One of the top 5 players in my region is a Falcon and he's done it to everybody in the scene at least once.

 

[MBRedboy31]

Raptor Boost is fast and can hit reasonably so.

Now if you want a move nobody should be getting hit with(and I don't mean Warlock Punch), but Volcano Kick. Like, it's easier to telegraph than most moves in the game(if not all), and is slow and easy to block.

Random thing, but I wonder what the slowest startup move in the Smash series will be when you take the overcharged smash attacks in Ultimate into account? It’s not quite the same thing of course since you can release the charge earlier, but I’m still curious (and excited to see people get hit by them in compilation videos, ahaha)

 

[Iridium]

Bruh have you ever seen or fought good Falcon players? I swear their signature move is killing you with Raptor Boost when you least expect it. One of the top 5 players in my region is a Falcon and he's done it to everybody in the scene at least once.

I have destroyed many online, and they just don't get me. I have seen good reads though.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Raptor Boost is fast and can hit reasonably so.

Now if you want a move nobody should be getting hit with(and I don't mean Warlock Punch), but Volcano Kick. Like, it's easier to telegraph than most moves in the game(if not all), and is slow and easy to block.

I've successfully used it to edgeguard a few times. Outside of reading/predictable recoveries, that's the only time I've landed it in 1v1s. After a shield break would be another use but really, what move isn't easy to land after a shield break?

 

[MojoRobo]

I have destroyed many online, and they just don't get me. I have seen good reads though.

Online is the worst place you could use to judge how easy or hard it is to get hit by a move lmao. Go to actual tournaments.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I've successfully used it to edgeguard a few times. Outside of reading/predictable recoveries, that's the only time I've landed it in 1v1s. After a shield break would be another use but really, what move isn't easy to land after a shield break?

Well, that's why I said should. I've hit with it too. XD

But yeah, the one thing I like is that moves like this can still work under the right conditions, they're just not optimal for trying to use often.