Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Paperchampion23]

Everyone see this? This is the right attitude to have about getting a character you're rooting for as an echo instead of unique. You really are a champion of paper I guess

Haha, my username comes from a song by a defunct band called Oceansize. Just a fun fact.

 

[KMDP]

I'm sure Wolf took less effort than these.

That's the fun, Osby!

I listed more than one Side and Down B for Geno because I wasn't sure which of the Mario Brothers he should echo (I suggest Dr. Mario).

Geno being a Dr. Mario echo would explain why the Doc isn't a Mario echo.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

But I wonder if fans will be ok with him as an echo seeing some don't want dixie to be an echo of diddy.

Dixie would be a weird Diddy Kong echo. It would be more suited (moveset wise) if she would happen to be a Chrom-esque clone. 95% Diddy with DK's grabs and Up-B would do the trick imo.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Swatting two games at once:

Monster Hunter
Agumon
Skull Kid
Tetra
Elma
Rayman
Octoling
Funky Kong
Kumatora
Ninten
Excite Biker
Eevee
Spyro

Spent way too much time thinking about characters that could go under E.

 

[Enchess]

Geno

Neutral B: Samus' Charge Shot​

Side B: Cape [Mario/Dr. Mario Echo]; Geno Missile [Luigi Echo]​

Up B: R.O.B.'s Robo Burner ()​

Down B: F.L.U.D.D [Mario Echo], Tornado [Dr. Mario/Luigi Echo]​

Bandana Dee (Kirby Echo)

All punch attacks have a Spear added, it increases BWD's range but also has a sweetspot.​

Neutral B: Marth's Shield Breaker​

Side B: Hammer​

Up B: Peach's Parasol​

Down B: Counter​

It can be done, with a little finagling.

I can see this for BD:

All non-specials same as Kirby
Wag arms instead of puff up for multi-jumps
Neutral-B replaced with shield breaker
Side/up specials functionally the same but with spear in place of hammer/cutter
Down-B is basically the same functionally (visually it's him quick falling with spear pointing down), but without the delay afterwards for transforming back

Seems like less work, but seems to me like it would adequately represent BD still

 

[Shroob]

23 and a half hours until we can either bury the 6th leak, or we have direct confirmation.

I wonder if we don't get any direct news if all those 'insiders' on twitter will have egg on their face.

 

[osby]

That's the fun, Osby!

I listed more than one Side and Down B for Geno because I wasn't sure which of the Mario Brothers he should echo (I suggest Dr. Mario).

Geno being a Dr. Mario echo would explain why the Doc isn't a Mario echo.

Then I'll try, too:

Persona 3 Hero=
Normals, from Marth
Up B, from Robin but with fire (Agi)
Side B, from Shulk (Bash)
Neutral B, from Zelda down B (summons Thanatos)
Down B from Wii Fit Trainer (Heat Riser and/or Dia)


Sounds easy.

 

[KMDP]

I can see this for BD:

All non-specials same as Kirby
Wag arms instead of puff up for multi-jumps
Neutral-B replaced with shield breaker
Side/up specials functionally the same but with spear in place of hammer/cutter
Down-B is basically the same functionally (visually it's him quick falling with spear pointing down), but without the delay afterwards for transforming back

Seems like less work, but seems to me like it would adequately represent BD still

Just as good!

I hadn't considering the dropping aspect of Kirby's Stone ability, I was more focused on the actual stone bit.

(I still think BWD's up special should be Parasol, though. )

Then I'll try, too:

Persona 3 Hero=
Normals, from Marth
Up B, from Robin but with fire (Agi)
Side B, from Shulk (Bash)
Neutral B, from Zelda down B (summons Thanatos)
Down B from Wii Fit Trainer (Heat Riser and/or Dia)

Sounds easy.

So I guess he's a Marth echo then. XD

How far can you stretch the Echo designation until it becomes meaningless?

 

[osby]

Just as good!

I hadn't considering the dropping aspect of Kirby's Stone ability, I was more focused on the actual stone bit.

(I still think BWD's up special should be Parasol, though. )

So I guess he's a Marth echo then. XD

How far can you stretch the Echo designation until it becomes meaningless?

I thought about making him Ike's echo but he's way too slim for it. Lucina might fit better but she's already an echo.

Streching the definition? Eh, Chrom kinda does that. Maybe when all specials are different?

 

[Blargg888]

N
3
O
N

uhhh... nah.

Hang on, let's see:
Navi
3 more Fire Emblem Characters
Orbulon
Nobody else

Sounds good to me.

 

[Aaron1997]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Mimique has spoke again

 

[Idon]

How far can you stretch the Echo designation until it becomes meaningless?

Smashboards:
"WHAT IF WE MADE A CHARACTER THAT WAS AN ECHO OF EVERY CHARACTER IN THE CAST."
Me:

 

[Shroob]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Mimique has spoke again

Getting 'real' hard to consider Mimique 'not' a leaker when everything they say they try to word it as 'just a guess'.

 

[osby]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Mimique has spoke again

Newcomers:1> 2 (+1)> 5> 7
Makes sense.

 

[MainJPW]

Here's a new silly idea of a character thread:

Try spelling your username with the first letter of potential newcomers, like the following:

Felix
Isaac
Neku Sakuraba
Agnès Oblige
Lin Lee Koo

Sylux
Malos
Amaterasu
Shantae
Henry Cooldown

Geno
Anthony Higgs
Mike Jones
Elma
Rex

Miles "Tails" Prower
Ayumi Tachibana
Isaac
NiGHTS
Jill (Drill Dozer)
Prince of Sablé
Wonder Red

 

[Zinith]

I'm in the process of making my tier list as we type

 

[Shroob]

I know this is conspiracy-levels of thinking...


But Mimique REALLY is suspicious to me, to be brutally honest. Especially now that they're more or less backing Verg 100%, it feels like something is just 'off' about them, but I'm not sure what.


I think it's the way they try really hard to make what they say come off as 'just a guess', when it's kind of obvious they know more than the norm.

 

[StormC]

Here's a new silly idea of a character thread:

Try spelling your username with the first letter of potential newcomers, like the following:

Felix
Isaac
Neku Sakuraba
Agnès Oblige
Lin Lee Koo

Sylux
Malos
Amaterasu
Shantae
Henry Cooldown

Geno
Anthony Higgs
Mike Jones
Elma
Rex

Using this as a reference...

Starfy
Tails
Octoling
Raiden
Mega Man X
Cranky Kong

Hope you guys like third parties.

 

[1FC0]

Venus of the Desert Bloom requested that I posted this here apparently because he does appreciate fine art. This is my fanfic story and it is pretty good.

Also at his request I have removed all harsh descriptions from my story. Though the original posts contained no threats, it did contain some harse descriptions which sensitive people might consider threatening, and therefore I removed it. This censored version will be better suited to the sensitive public that is the people of Smashboards.

So please enjoy the nonthreatening enjoyment that only my stories can bring!

Sakurai thought: "Geno is so popular, let's make the fans happy by including him in the game!" So the next E3 he revealed Geno as Assist Trophy. After the reveal he went to his home happily believing himself to be a blessing to the fans. But when he got home he saw that his house had been hugged to the ground by angry fans. Then Sakurai learned that Assist Trophy reveals are not ok. THE END

 

[Zinith]

So, um...

How do you upload those tier lists?

Edit: Nevermind. Ignore this

 

[PSIGuy]

To be honest, if a character is popular enough to be included but not as a playable character, I feel like they'll take special care to try soften the blow this time around. After the reactions to things like the K. Rool costume in 4 they must know these things can be misinterpreted easily. If Skull Kid's just dropped in our laps as a boss fight there'll be questions like "why not an Echo? why did Chrom get in and not him?", and when fans feel attacked then you've obviously failed at giving them fanservice.

 

[StormC]

Are we just posting games again?

Here's a game: List your most wanted newcomers you wanted when each SSB was announced; bold the ones that made it in that game.

Melee: Pit, King Dedede, Diddy, Wario, Banjo-Kazooie, Joanna Dark (damn...)

Brawl: Pit, Lucario, Wolf, King K. Rool, Diddy Kong, King Dedede

4: Wolf, Dark Samus, King K. Rool

Ultimate: Any given Sun/Moon Pokemon, Rex & Pyra, King K. Rool, Dark Samus, Dixie Kong

Didn't really get into Smash speculation until Brawl, so...

Brawl: Diddy Kong, King Dedede, Ridley, Mega Man, Samurai Goroh

4: K. Rool, Mega Man, Ridley, Palutena, Dixie Kong

Ultimate: K. Rool, Banjo-Kazooie, Ridley, Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee

Not counting returning veterans I wanted like Snake and Wolf... for Ultimate I'm winning pretty hardcore so far.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

【きょうのステージ】終点
ステージギミックや浮いた足場のないシンプルなステージですが、背景は今作向けの新しい演出となっています。美しい背景に気を取られて撃墜されないように！#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/6GQwmy3Znq

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) September 5, 2018

is this the first time we got a full view of FD

 

[Icedragonadam]

Holy **** it's the end of the world!

 

[Shroob]

To be honest, if a character is popular enough to be included but not as a playable character, I feel like they'll take special care to try soften the blow this time around. After the reactions to things like the K. Rool costume in 4 they must know these things can be misinterpreted easily. If Skull Kid's just dropped in our laps as a boss fight there'll be questions like "why not an Echo? why did Chrom get in and not him?", and when fans feel attacked then you've obviously failed at giving them fanservice.

Well for starters, who the hell would Skull Kid be an echo of?

Chrom makes perfect sense since Sakurai did him dirty in 4; there's literally no character from the Zelda series that would fight akin to Skull Kid.

Honestly, I know I'm going to get huge flak for this, but Skull Kid is the epitome of a bandwagon character this game.

He was popular, but it wasn't until the last Direct where his popularity SOARED, and Loz18 going around proclaiming "HE'S IN" didn't help the matter either.

 

[Danpal65]

【きょうのステージ】終点
ステージギミックや浮いた足場のないシンプルなステージですが、背景は今作向けの新しい演出となっています。美しい背景に気を取られて撃墜されないように！#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/6GQwmy3Znq

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) September 5, 2018

is this the first time we got a full view of FD

Don't believe so, but boy does that background look amazing!

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

I mean it's been on the official site since the last direct:

Spoiler: Final Destination

 

[Darkraid]

Decidueye
Agnes
Ray Man
Ken
Rex
Amaterasu
Incineroar
Dixie

 

[Shroob]

Holy **** it's the end of the world!

"So this is how the world ends, not with a bang, but a SMASH."

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I present to everyone here. The Ultimate roster made with Ultimate in mind for the Ultimate Smash Bros. This is my most Ultimate Roster.

While the leaks that have came out somewhat influenced because of “hey, that would be cool”, I tried to base the expanded roster based on Ultimate. It has your iconic characters, your requested characters, new characters, old characters, and even a few oddballs that I personally want. It is Ultimate.

I’ll elaborate on my choices in a later post.
Thoughts on this roster?

 

[Zinith]

So, here it is...

What'd ya think?

 

[StormC]

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So, here it is...

What'd ya think?

What did Mewtwo ever do to you?

 

[KMDP]

Smashboards:
"WHAT IF WE MADE A CHARACTER THAT WAS AN ECHO OF EVERY CHARACTER IN THE CAST."
Me:
View attachment 161975

What's that I hear?

Sounds like an Inferno.

I present to everyone here. The Ultimate roster made with Ultimate in mind for the Ultimate Smash Bros. This is my most Ultimate Roster.

While the leaks that have came out somewhat influenced because of “hey, that would be cool”, I tried to base the expanded roster based on Ultimate. It has your iconic characters, your requested characters, new characters, old characters, and even a few oddballs that I personally want. It is Ultimate.

Truly, the Ultimate Smash Bros., it is very Special.

 

[ganondorf_22]

Oh boy here’s my list

Gerudo
All the Single Ladies
Nintendog
Olimar’s cousin Walter
NAFTA
Dere is nobody else
Ohhhhhhhhh there still is nobody else
Regis Philbin
Felix the Cat
_.__._
2 better characters than what I’ve said so far.
2 more.

As for the other game,

Red tier - Simon, Dork Samus
Orange tier - Ryu
Yellow tier - Pichu, Ice Climbers
Green tier - Shulk
Blue tier - Kirby, Peach
Purple tier - Everybody not in any of the other tiers.
Pink tier - Sheik, Cloud, Zero Suit Samus, Lucario, Mario

 

[Bestmand902]

What if
Ridley got a speaking voice
and it was Mark Hamill
(Edit; **** I posted this in the totally wrong thread)

 

[Noipoi]

What if
Ridley got a speaking voice
and it was Mark Hamill
(Edit; **** I posted this in the totally wrong thread)

No my friend, you most certainly posted in the right thread.

 

[Over9000BPM]

What if
Ridley got a speaking voice
and it was Mark Hamill
(Edit; **** I posted this in the totally wrong thread)

I’d be down for that!

 

[UberMadman]

Here's a new silly idea of a character thread:

Try spelling your username with the first letter of potential newcomers

Sounds pretty hard in my case, but I'll give it a shot.

Urbosa
Bandana Waddle Dee
Elma
Rex & Pyra
Medusa
Amaterasu
Dixie Kong
Magolor
Akuma
Ninten

Do you know how hard it was to come up with a "U" fighter that could stand any kind of chance of making the roster whatsoever? I had to eventually open up the roster maker and search for characters that began with "U". Urbosa is legitimately the "U" character with the best chance of making the roster.

 

[osby]

What if
Ridley got a speaking voice
and it was Mark Hamill
(Edit; **** I posted this in the totally wrong thread)

Alternative: Now that Marth has an English dub, Hikaru Midorikawa can voice K.Rool in all regions.

 

[Black Magician]

Plot twist: Sega, Square, Camelot etc start posting 'leaks' on their official Twitter.

Each one has a different combination of Smash leakers on their roster.