Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pristine]

I wonder why nobody comes to ever really think of Sephiroth's sword simply being shrinked in the same manner that Ridley was. That way his sword isn't as omnipresent as Melee Marth's grab.

 

[Luigi The President]

I've always liked the idea of Doc Louis as a Little Mac echo. Yeah, the proportions dont make sense at all, but he IS the guy that trains Little Mac and it would be funny to see him be a slower, stronger and a better air fighter than Mac himself. Oh, and his final smash could be him dropping his chocolate, unleashing the legendary golden leopard shirt and pummeling opponents with no mercy.

HOL UP...

HAVE WE SEEN LIL MACS VICTORY ANIMATION

 

[AreJay25]

HOL UP...

HAVE WE SEEN LIL MACS VICTORY ANIMATION

Yes, Doc is still in them.

 

[MainJPW]

HOL UP...

HAVE WE SEEN LIL MACS VICTORY ANIMATION

Yeah.

 

[Luigi The President]

Yes, Doc is still in them.

My day is ruined and my weekend is absolutely wrecked.

 

[Idon]

I wonder why nobody comes to ever really think of Sephiroth's sword simply being shrinked in the same manner that Ridley was. That way his sword isn't as omnipresent as Melee Marth's grab.

Well for one, no one thinks about Sephiroth in general.
For two, it's kind of an iconic part of his character design that he has a ridiculously stupid long katana.

 

[DevaAshera]

I wonder why nobody comes to ever really think of Sephiroth's sword simply being shrinked in the same manner that Ridley was. That way his sword isn't as omnipresent as Melee Marth's grab.

Sephiroth without a long sword just isn't Sephiroth, it's more iconic to him then Ridley being big.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

yeah i just don’t see Sephiroth happening at all

I have a feeling Sakurai just straight up doesn’t like Katanas, which is also why Lyn’s an AT three times in a row — katanas are just too OP for Smash. I’d think, at least

 

[PeridotGX]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

Oh, If I have full control?

Full unique newcomers: Bandana Dee, Marx, Kamek, Maxwell, Decidueye, Heracross, Fawful, Lycanroc

Echoes: Mr.L (Luigi), Blaziken (Falcon), Susie (Bowser. Jr), Ninten (Lucas), Octoling (Inkling), Boshi (Yoshi) Zygarde (Lycanroc), Lily (Maxwell)

Every stage I've made for the stage contest is in. Scribblenauts gets as much love as Castlevania did.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If we do not get Sephiroth as a boss in Spirits mode. I will riot. (at Square Enix)

 

[BlueMagician]

Wait, does the damage buff in 1v1 apply to knockback and throw distance as well?

 

[Noipoi]

If we get King Hippo just throw in Eggplant Wizard too.
We already got Simon.

 

[Deleted member]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

I would add Wonder-Red, Elma, Dixie Kong and Geno as uniques, and Shadow, Ken, Celica, Impa, Black Shadow and Hitmonchan as Echoes. Finally, I'd go to Atlus:
Atlus guy: "We'd love to have a character in Smash, so, who would you want? Persona? Or Shin Megami Tensei?"
Me: "I want that little blonde ***** over there."
Atlus guy: "A-are you sure?"
Me: "Did I stutter?"
Atlus guy: "Do you not think one of those would be more fitting?"
Me: "Fine, I'll take the Persona kid, but the blondie comes with me too."

And then I add the Protector to Smash alongside Yu Narukami

 

[Dixie Kong]

I would love a girl power reveal for Smash, with Dixie, Shantae, Elma, and Kos-Mos all being revealed.

 

[Apollo500]

I would add Wonder-Red, Elma, Dixie Kong and Geno as uniques, and Shadow, Ken, Celica, Impa, Black Shadow and Hitmonchan as Echoes. Finally, I'd go to Atlus:
Atlus guy: "We'd love to have a character in Smash, so, who would you want? Persona? Or Shin Megami Tensei?"
Me: "I want that little blonde ***** over there."
Atlus guy: "A-are you sure?"
Me: "Did I stutter?"
Atlus guy: "Do you not think one of those would be more fitting?"
Me: "Fine, I'll take the Persona kid, but the blondie comes with me too."

And then I add the Protector to Smash alongside Yu Narukami

Protector is great and all, but can we get Princess/Sovereign, too?

 

[praline]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

I’d add as uniques: Isaac, Nightmare, Erdrick and Jill Valentine.
As echoes: Ken(Ryu), Shadow(Sonic), Black Knight(Ike), Black Shadow(Captain Falcon), Isabelle (Villager), Eight(Erdrick) and Claire Redfield(Jill).

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder why nobody comes to ever really think of Sephiroth's sword simply being shrinked in the same manner that Ridley was. That way his sword isn't as omnipresent as Melee Marth's grab.

It's difficult; his sword is just as iconic and part of his character as Cloud's buster sword. The problem, though, is that Cloud hold's his sword upright (and two-handed), so it's not really messing with his character size. Sephiroth holds his in the katana stance style 'Ko Gasumi'; above the head and held outward. You'd have to shrink it pretty significantly for Sephiroth to not have ridiculous range or a crazy hitbox with it.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The only villain Punch Out!! really has is Aran Ryan.

Everyone else is a jerk at most.

 

[Will]

He was one of the Villains in 'Captain N: Game Master', so as far as Nintendo is concerned, he is a villain.

>a non-canon american cartoon counts for the entirety of a character's character
boi

 

[Idon]

Smash ultimate charecters what would you do?

Well, I'm ****ing insane, selfish, and competitive, so I'd funnel any and all game development resources into more characters, revamping old characters, remixing unfun stages into legal stage variants, and making a functional online with proper rankings a big priority.

As for the single-player content:

 

[Deleted member]

Protector is great and all, but can we get Princess/Sovereign, too?

I like you. For that reason, the Sovereign will also be added as an unique newcomer, and Geno will be cut to make space for them.

>a non-canon american cartoon counts for the entirety of a character's character
boi

I mean, people call Mewtwo a villain because of the movie too tho

 

[Deleted member]

>a non-canon american cartoon counts for the entirety of a character's character
boi

That was an American cartoon? Oh, my bad. Thought it was early anime lol.

 

[Will]

There's really nobody in Punch-Out!! that acts as a straight-out villain. Swamp Sensei is right about Aran Ryan being really the most bad of a bad guy in the series, but nobody's going out to hunt down Little Mac.

The Super Punch-Out!! final boss was a pretty chill guy.

I mean he doesn't look like one but he at least admits his defeat in the end.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Not much new but here's some more demo gameplay

 

[Noipoi]

Other than the fact that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their opinion is better when as far as I can tell everyone agrees, none of the current discussions have anything for me, So I wanted to ask, If you had 100% control over Smash ultimate charecters what would you do? Most notably, I would add Octoling skins for Inkling, while un-standardizing the amount of charecter skins, (some need more than 8 some don't), and addin Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Monika, and Cuphead as full charecters. Because I am a madman. I would also buff Wii Fit trainer to be the best charecter in the game, see previous statement.

Waluigi would not only be in, he would be so top tier you'd need a new tier just for him.
Ashley, Poipole, Noivern, Dunsparce, Callie and Marie (think Ice Climbers) are all in.
I'd put in Geno too because i'm a benevolent God.
Bayonetta would be nerfed to hell and back, but Waluigi would be so threatening no one would care.
Eggman is a boss, an assist trophy, and a character.
Super Show Mario is Mario's echo fighter, his Final Smash is "DO THE MARIO"

New subspace emissary, fully voice acted cutscenes but the voice actors are trash.
You can play as Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu but they're all bottom tier.

 

[Will]

I mean, people call Mewtwo a villain because of the movie too tho

The Pokemon anime is at least attempting to be accurate to the series.
Captain N is just

Let's not talk about it.

 

[Apollo500]

I like you. For that reason, the Sovereign will also be added as an unique newcomer, and Geno will be cut to make space for them.

While we're at it, let's have EO stages, too. Lost Shinjuku as a regular multiplayer stage, with Waterfall Wood in the (probable) story mode with Narmer as a boss!

 

[Deleted member]

The Pokemon anime is at least attempting to be accurate to the series.
Captain N is just

Let's not talk about it.

Can we get that as a Simon Belmont alt? Don't tell me it wouldn't be absolutely hilarious.

 

[Idon]

people call Mewtwo a villain because of the movie too tho

While Mewtwo isn't evil per se, I'd say he's definitely the largest antagonistic force next to Champion Blue.

He is the strongest Pokemon you face, the last one you need to complete the Pokedex, the hardest Pokemon to capture, and can only be accessed by defeating Blue. I'd say he perfectly represents the "catch 'em all" difficulty of Pokemon. Or something.

 

[Will]

While Mewtwo isn't evil per se, I'd say he's definitely the largest antagonistic force next to Champion Blue.

He is the strongest Pokemon you face, the last one you need to complete the Pokedex, the hardest Pokemon to capture, and can only be accessed by defeating Blue. I'd say he perfectly represents the "catch 'em all" difficulty of Pokemon. Or something.

And then you gotta go cut down a ****ing truck

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

The only villain Punch Out!! really has is Aran Ryan.

Everyone else is a jerk at most.

This level of 'jerkiness' could be considered villainy

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

yeah i just don’t see Sephiroth happening at all

I have a feeling Sakurai just straight up doesn’t like Katanas, which is also why Lyn’s an AT three times in a row — katanas are just too OP for Smash. I’d think, at least

also takamaru, rip bro

 

[Noipoi]

And then you gotta go cut down a ****ing truck

Or spend 50$ on a pokeball plus .

 

[Will]

Or spend 50$ on a pokeball plus .

please god dont tell me thats how you actually get mew in that game
i was disappointed before but this is just next level

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Or spend 50$ on a pokeball plus .

EA kicks themselves for not thinking of it first.

 

[Apollo500]

also takamaru, rip bro

Takamaru was initially my hope for the 'obligatory retro rep'. Alas.

 

[Noipoi]

please god dont tell me thats how you actually get mew in that game
i was disappointed before but this is just next level

That is actually the only way to get Mew in the game. You can't catch it, you can't even transfer it from Pokemon Go.
You have to spend 50$ on a pokeball plus to get a mew, it's the only way.
Yes, it's stupid.

 

[Will]

Takamaru was initially my hope for the 'obligatory retro rep'. Alas.

Now here are your two options:
1. A guy or possibly a girl on a bike
2. Schoolgirl Phoenix Wright

Spoiler: or you can do the elusive option C

Sakurai says "**** it this is america's fan choice now"

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I will leave this here

https://nintendoeverything.com/yoshizumi-on-including-tales-characters-in-next-smash-bros-more/

Reminder of one of the costumes

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

That is actually the only way to get Mew in the game. You can't catch it, you can't even transfer it from Pokemon Go.
You have to spend 50$ on a pokeball plus to get a mew, it's the only way.
Yes, it's stupid.

just gamefreak being gamefreak I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know people like to hate on other developers for being money-grubby but damn