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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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There was nothing wrong with Bayonetta using a Chain Chomp as a weapon while dressed up as either Link or Samus
You should check it out for yourself. It's really good.

Viridi's personality is my dumb reason why I want her in Smash Ultimate over Medusa.
There’s nothing about Viridi in general that makes your reason for wanting her in Smash Ultimate dumb...only glorious
 

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There was nothing wrong with Bayonetta using a Chain Chomp as a weapon while dressed up as either Link or Samus

There’s nothing about Viridi in general that makes your reason for wanting her in Smash Ultimate dumb...only glorious
I'd figured people would not understand my love for the character over personality but no action to it. I'd like to see what Viridi can do for her move-sets, echo or not.
 

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Honestly? Same. I have a feeling Soren, Gardevoir and Gothitelle may be fake outs too, especially with regard to the datamine leak, cause remember, after the Royu datamine, Sakurai decided to name all future DLC slots after Mario.

Sorry to anyone who wanted Gardevoir though :(at least there’s no Gothitelle
The DLC character slots were always named Mario, what caught Roy and Ryu were victory themes found in 1.0.6 that were named for them.
 
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You should check it out for yourself. It's really good.

Viridi's personality is my dumb reason why I want her in Smash Ultimate over Medusa.
Yeah she's got a great personality, and I think it would go pretty well with the game

What is protonmail leak?
I took screenshots of it, but I don't know how to add them to a message, otherwise I would show you them
 

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So I have a question... what if the games comes out and as it turns out... there's actually 100 playable characters not including echos...
Also Who would they be?
Many seem to have the reaction to this as why?

I will opt for ..why not? Isabelle, Impa, and Daisy not listed because I’d see them as echoes.

68) Mike Jones - Retro Repping Star Tropics
69) Zoda - Purple alien repping the bad guy in Star Tropics.
70) Geno
71) Bonk
72) Bub and Bob (Bubble Bobble, Bust A Move/Puzzle Bobble)
73) Vaati
74) Fawful
75) Toad/Captain Toad/Toadette
76) Mawile
77) Zoroark
78) Meowth rolling around on a Koffing while using Ekans as a whip (Team Rocket is in Let’s Go)
79) Tapu Koko
80) Balloon Fighter
81) Shapeshifting Ice Hockey guy
82) Nester/Lark
83) Harry (Teleroboxer)
84) Porky
85) Pico
86) Lola Pop/Lanky Kong
87) Toon Zelda
88) Isaac
89) Andy (Advance Wars)
90) Medusa
91) Chrono
92) Tails
93) Robotnik
94) Bandana Waddle Dee
95) Marx
96) Gooey
97) Hector
98) Alvis/Arvis
99) Henry Fleming
100) Captain Syrup
 

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Well, it's not like we got much else to do than gush over Simon/Richter/Chrom/DS/Rool until the next month.

In the meantime, Richter's trailer and memory are up. Naturally, it's the lame version of Dracula X, though to be fair the PC Engine original isn't Nintendo-labelled.

Many seem to have the reaction to this as why?

I will opt for ..why not? Isabelle, Impa, and Daisy not listed because I’d see them as echoes.

68) Mike Jones - Retro Repping Star Tropics
69) Zoda - Purple alien repping the bad guy in Star Tropics.
70) Geno
71) Bonk
72) Bub and Bob (Bubble Bobble, Bust A Move/Puzzle Bobble)
73) Vaati
74) Fawful
75) Toad/Captain Toad/Toadette
76) Mawile
77) Zoroark
78) Meowth rolling around on a Koffing while using Ekans as a whip (Team Rocket is in Let’s Go)
79) Tapu Koko
80) Balloon Fighter
81) Shapeshifting Ice Hockey guy
82) Nester/Lark
83) Harry (Teleroboxer)
84) Porky
85) Pico
86) Lola Pop/Lanky Kong
87) Toon Zelda
88) Isaac
89) Andy (Advance Wars)
90) Medusa
91) Chrono
92) Tails
93) Robotnik
94) Bandana Waddle Dee
95) Marx
96) Gooey
97) Hector
98) Alvis/Arvis
99) Henry Fleming
100) Captain Syrup
I'd say, that's a good list.

>Shapeshifting Ice Hockey Guy
Bill Trinen, is that you?
 
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I'd figured people would not understand my love for the character over personality but no action to it. I'd like to see what Viridi can do for her move-sets, echo or not.
All she needs are Mother Nature...and the mother ****ing RESET BOMBS!!!!
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Everyone better watch out and be good humans
 

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I have a theory on the now likely fake Japan leak.

This Rumor maker somehow saw the protonmail rumor sometime way before the email was posted. Saw and guessed that this was the order of reveals and guessed(correctly) that Simon was going to be revealed in August. Then piggybacked it with a date of September 24th as the direct date because it'd be around TGS which Nintendo doesn't go, although Bamco does. So even if the date(which is pretty safe with TGS) and the characters are right, it's likely the 4 new stages(although there would at least be 2) and Mario Kart related stuff wouldn't happen.

The only other theory assuming the protonmail is real(hopefully for me), is that it's a just a big coincidence that both leaks had Heihachi & Lloyd next in line.
 

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So I have a question... what if the games comes out and as it turns out... there's actually 100 playable characters not including echos...
Also Who would they be?
68. Isaac
69. Saki

70. Mio
71. Sable
72. Qbby
73. Mallo (Pushmo)
74. Lip
75. Someone from Eternal Darkness
76. Mach Rider
77. Dixie&Kiddy
78. Ray MkII
79. Ayumi

80. Cackletta
81. Vaati
82. Elma
83. Wave Racer
84. Labo
85. Isa Jo (if you've played both S&P you know he can easily be unique from Saki)
86. Chesnaught or Primarina
87. Mona
88. Golden Diva
89. Myrrh

90. Paper Mario
91. Masked Man, Porky, or Giygas
92. Chibi-Robo
93. Starfy
94. Barbara
95. Black Shadow (no reason he has to be an echo if we're putting in this much effort into newcomers)
96. Skull Kid
97. HarmoKnight
98. Chorus Kids
99. Ouendan (we need at least a stage or AT. Like seriously)

100. Master Hand (seriously)
Dont think I even needed to dip into third parties or add more than 2 reps to a current franchise, unless I'm mistaken about someone

Edit: And from Freduardo's list it seems I even missed obvious ones like Mike Jones and an Advance Wars rep
 
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I have a theory on the now likely fake Japan leak.

This Rumor maker somehow saw the protonmail rumor sometime way before the email was posted. Saw and guessed that this was the order of reveals and guessed(correctly) that Simon was going to be revealed in August. Then piggybacked it with a date of September 24th as the direct date because it'd be around TGS which Nintendo doesn't go, although Bamco does. So even if the date(which is pretty safe with TGS) and the characters are right, it's likely the 4 new stages(although there would at least be 2) and Mario Kart related stuff wouldn't happen.

The only other theory assuming the protonmail is real(hopefully for me), is that it's a just a big coincidence that both leaks had Heihachi & Lloyd next in line.
I hope the Protonmail leak is real too, because of Isabelle being the only thing I want in this game. And it actually looks pretty legit. Of course, I guess someone could've just typed up some message with a few characters on it using protonmail. I think protonmail is available to anyone to use, right?
 

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I took screenshots of it, but I don't know how to add screenshots to a reply
See where the icons are at the top of the "Post a Reply" box near the bottom of the page? In the middle of the top bar, there is an icon of a picture of a mountain with a sun next to it. Click that. You can then upload or add by URL.
 

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I keep seeing this protonmail leak thrown around.

No one is even saying what's on it.

No one is providing proof of it's existence. Surely someone knows how to post attachments.

It's the little picture above quick reply and then you just you know follow instructions from there.
 
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I can definitely understand how you feel.
In the pre-Smash4 days I wanted : Dixie/K.Rool(the most), Villager/Tom Nook, Ghirahim, Toad, Micaiah (Fire Emblem), Travis Touchdown. Most characters I wanted were ignored, not even appeared as AT. Only got Villager, the exact first one.
It sucks.I don't care about Pac-man, Bayo, Ryu, Duck Hunt, hated Bowser Jr... it felt like one horrible roster to me.

In comparison, I liked Ridley inclusion. Inkling seems funny. Simon it's cool. And now K.Rool.
So maybe there will come a time where the ones you care finally happens.
I remember in the speculation that from the character I wanted in the game, I think I only got Megaman and Rosalina;... Well; at least DLC gave me my Melee Boys, Ryu and Cloud xD.

Also; it's nice to found someone mention Micaiah in this thread other that me xDU
 
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Ya know something interesting?

Look on the website and in the recent direct.

If a stage isn't tied to a character, for some reason, it doesn't have an emblem, even if it had one previously.

Also, excluding Miiverse, I think every stage from its own series is back.
 

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I keep seeing this protonmail leak thrown around.

No one is even saying what's on it.

No one is providing proof of it's existence. Surely someone knows how to post attachments.

It's the little picture above quick reply and then you just you know follow instructions from there.
Exactly this. Nobody is giving specifics or leaks.
 

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I keep seeing this protonmail leak thrown around.

No one is even saying what's on it.

No one is providing proof of it's existence. Surely someone knows how to post attachments.

It's the little picture above quick reply and then you just you know follow instructions from there.
It's really not that interesting to be honest.

It's an email that you need some sort of cypher key to decode, and when it is, you get

"Simon
Lloyd
Heihachi
Isabelle
Waddle Dee


Not the complete list"

And apparently the person who owns said email address said there'd be a Direct in August that shows off the main menu.



I don't buy it at all to be frank, I've seen too many "Oooooooh, spoopy code that you have to de-cipher"
 
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Ya know something interesting?

Look on the website and in the recent direct.

If a stage isn't tied to a character, for some reason, it doesn't have an emblem, even if it had one previously.

Also, excluding Miiverse, I think every stage from its own series is back.
Even both Flat Zones? Cause with X I don’t see them returning
 

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Ya know something interesting?

Look on the website and in the recent direct.

If a stage isn't tied to a character, for some reason, it doesn't have an emblem, even if it had one previously.

Also, excluding Miiverse, I think every stage from its own series is back.
I checked, they had their emblems. Are you talking about the "Stages" page or somewhere else?
 

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It's really not that interesting to be honest.

It's an email that you need some sort of cypher key to decode, and when it is, you get

"K.Rool
Simon
Lloyd
Heihachi
Isabelle
Waddle Dee


Not the complete list"

And apparently the person who owns said email address said there'd be a Direct in August that shows off the main menu.



I don't buy it at all to be frank, I've seen too many "Oooooooh, spoopy code that you have to de-cipher"
I don’t remember seeing K. Rool in the original screen cap though?
 

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Ya know something interesting?

Look on the website and in the recent direct.

If a stage isn't tied to a character, for some reason, it doesn't have an emblem, even if it had one previously.

Also, excluding Miiverse, I think every stage from its own series is back.
I'm looking at the stages on the website and they still have their icons from previous games, like the Balloon Fighter stage and Wrecking Crew stage.
 

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I could have sworn those weren't there on the site before.
 

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I'm really liking the Isaac/Felix rumor that's recently been floating around but, hoo boy, would that be some hardcore fan service, given that Golden Sun is basically dead. Two characters from a dead franchise is asking a lot, especially since the last game was 1. an enormous flop and 2. almost a decade ago. At least with Geno and Skull Kid the come from Nintendo's biggest franchises and their games have been rereleased numerous times since they originally came out. Isaac is plausible, Isaac AND Felix sounds too good to be true.
 

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I have a theory on the now likely fake Japan leak.

This Rumor maker somehow saw the protonmail rumor sometime way before the email was posted. Saw and guessed that this was the order of reveals and guessed(correctly) that Simon was going to be revealed in August. Then piggybacked it with a date of September 24th as the direct date because it'd be around TGS which Nintendo doesn't go, although Bamco does. So even if the date(which is pretty safe with TGS) and the characters are right, it's likely the 4 new stages(although there would at least be 2) and Mario Kart related stuff wouldn't happen.

The only other theory assuming the protonmail is real(hopefully for me), is that it's a just a big coincidence that both leaks had Heihachi & Lloyd next in line.
Actually Nintendo is confirmed to go to TGS this year (I believe the first time in a decade). That's probably why "leaks" are picking that time frame.
 

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See where the icons are at the top of the "Post a Reply" box near the bottom of the page? In the middle of the top bar, there is an icon of a picture of a mountain with a sun next to it. Click that. You can then upload or add by URL.
I'm clicking 'insert' on the mountain with the sun icon, but clicking 'insert' doesn't do anything, and it makes it seem that all I can do is add a URL
 

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I keep seeing this protonmail leak thrown around.

No one is even saying what's on it.

No one is providing proof of it's existence. Surely someone knows how to post attachments.

It's the little picture above quick reply and then you just you know follow instructions from there.
But when I click on the picture, it only gives me the option to type in a URL, then click 'insert' after typing in the URL. There is no option to actually insert a picture. When I click 'insert' without typing a URL, it doesn't do anything
 

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But when I click on the picture, it only gives me the option to type in a URL, then click 'insert' after typing in the URL. There is no option to actually insert a picture. When I click 'insert' without typing a URL, it doesn't do anything
You need to click Attach Files.
 

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I keep seeing this protonmail leak thrown around.

No one is even saying what's on it.

No one is providing proof of it's existence. Surely someone knows how to post attachments.

It's the little picture above quick reply and then you just you know follow instructions from there.
It said this:
Super Smash Bros. Direct will reveal Simon Belmont. Menu will be shown off.

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The code leads to a now empty inbox that had this message:

First Leak

from received to
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
imgurVTXvVxQ Wed Aug 08 2018 03:41:32 GMT+0000 "buhm8njxfb@harakirimail.com"
<imgurVTXvVxQ@protonmail.ch> (UTC) <buhm8njxfb@harakirimail.com>
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Simon Belmont
Heihachi Mishima
Lloyd Irving
Isabelle
Waddle Dee

Not the complete list.

Sent with Protonmail Secure Email.
 

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I'm starting to buy the leak explained in papagenos papagenos ' recent video. I'm not exactly saying it's 100% true, but it makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

Only thing I'm skeptical about is his "Mario2 / Geno" prediction, though I'd definitely like Geno or Paper Mario so I wouldn't complain either way.
 

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I think they can’t cause they’re new and need a certain number of posts to be able to attach files...?
We probably can't, because there is no 'attach files' option

Exactly this. Nobody is giving specifics or leaks.
I keep seeing this protonmail leak thrown around.

No one is even saying what's on it.

No one is providing proof of it's existence. Surely someone knows how to post attachments.

It's the little picture above quick reply and then you just you know follow instructions from there.
It said this:
Super Smash Bros. Direct will reveal Simon Belmont. Menu will be shown off.

-----BEGIN-----
Version: BCPG C# v1.6.1.0

mQENBFtqXHsBCADd6Myek8CqNRBNdXBZSGmZrK9+qixjpYcjK9PP7o2LqomJJBuv
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=7xNq
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The code leads to a now empty inbox that had this message:

First Leak

from received to
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
imgurVTXvVxQ Wed Aug 08 2018 03:41:32 GMT+0000 "buhm8njxfb@harakirimail.com"
<imgurVTXvVxQ@protonmail.ch> (UTC) <buhm8njxfb@harakirimail.com>
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Simon Belmont
Heihachi Mishima
Lloyd Irving
Isabelle
Waddle Dee

Not the complete list.

Sent with Protonmail Secure Email.

You need to click Attach Files.
There is no 'attach files' option for me
 

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I'm clicking 'insert' on the mountain with the sun icon, but clicking 'insert' doesn't do anything, and it makes it seem that all I can do is add a URL
Do you have any means of uploading the pictures online?
 
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