Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Untouch]

Honestly the only way they could top K Rool would be Goku so... I mean...

 

[Slavic]

Also after waiting forever to get an FE item I finally have catharsis (the emotional state not the FE staff). The Killing Edge always excites me to get in FE and now I can manage to get no critical hits in Smash as well! It excited me as much as Chrom's inclusion which might be a little depraved

 

[Ace C.R.O.S.S.]

That

Phoenix Wright's trailer involves arresting Wario for some crime he pulled and getting him the death penalty.

That's actually a good idea! Like a Character reveal, when he decides to investigate the murder of Mario, Megaman and Luigi (Mario/Megaman killed by Ridley)(Luigi killed by the reaper) It would be pretty cooler!

 

[TBone06]

After this direct I'm not sure what Sakurai can annouce next.

He already showed all the big guns.

Banjo Kazooie would bring massive hype. Geno would too. Isaac wouldn't be at that level, but he's up there. I'm sure Sakurai still has a few aces up his sleeve.

 

[QrowinSP]

So now that they've fixed classic mode, any ideas for how they could fix All Star? I found it to be rather unengaging in smash 4. Here are some ideas I had that could spruce things up:

First is to make sure things are organized. Maybe have the first match be the first 12, the next one being characters added in melee, then ones added in brawl, then smash 4, and then ultimate (including echo fighters). On average each fighter will be easier than in past games to adjust for increased roster size.

Second would be to have a final round near the end full of special ****. You know how they made a special giga bowser version of Bowser for Melee? Well, it might not be in their final smashes anymore, but maybe add in a round where you face supercharged versions of characters. Mega Lucario, Giga Bowser, Giga Mac, Masked Dedede, Fierce Diety Link, that sort of thing.

 

[FurretBro]

After this direct I'm not sure what Sakurai can annouce next.

He already showed all the big guns.

I've said the name enough times.

 

[Aeronite's Kiseki]

Okay, I went through all of them. Not counting individual Battlefields and Destinations Final, these are the only stages from previous titles we haven't seen yet:

From Smash 64
Planet Zebes
Sector Z

From Melee
Mute City
Icicle Mountain
Poké Floats
Flat Zone (unlikely, as it's basically been absorbed into Flat Zone X)

From Brawl
Rumble Falls
Flat Zone 2 (same as above)
PictoChat (I imagine same as the Flat Zones, PictoChat 2 probably makes it redundant)

From Smash 4
Rainbow Road
Pac-Maze
Woolly World
Jungle Hijinx
Pyrosphere
Orbital Gate Assault
Miiverse

Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 as well is missing

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Or Young Link, in Skull Kid's reveal. :D

I say so too. In Geno's reveal.

Cause he reminds me of Booster.

And, Bowser and Peach are allied with Geno, so...

But it would be funny to see Wario get Geno Whirl'd into space lol

I'd pay to watch that knowing a striking resemblence

Pretty sure Sakurai said in one of his articles that while he doesn't expect another for a while, It more than likely is not the last.

More than likely in Nov before the game's out. I wanna say maybe early to mid November is my best guess

Honestly the only way they could top K Rool would be Goku so... I mean...

Please no. Goku is anime first, so his chances are zero percent

 

[Will]

After this direct I'm not sure what Sakurai can annouce next.

He already showed all the big guns.

How about an actual gun?

Ridleyboy and Roolboys got their wish. I think it's only fair they get it too.

 

[StupendousMike]

Banjo Kazooie would bring massive hype. Geno would too. Isaac wouldn't be at that level, but he's up there. I'm sure Sakurai still has a few aces up his sleeve.

At this point, I'd be more hyped and surprised by an announcement for Golden Sun 4 than I would for Isaac in Smash. Ideally, of course, we'd get both.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

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So, who was expecting the roster to look like this this morning?

I sure as hell wasn't.
God I'm excited. 4 months to go.

Even better knowing I can place Dark Pit in a corner to keep Pit and Samus close to one another. Can’t wait for more fighters to kick some ***

 

[Noipoi]

Yeah, maybe when MARIO finally gets a newcomer trailer, I'll consider that

Mario will NEVER get in Smash. Give it up.

 

[QrowinSP]

Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 as well is missing

No, both are present.

 

[TBone06]

At this point, I'd be more hyped and surprised by an announcement for Golden Sun 4 than I would for Isaac in Smash. Ideally, of course, we'd get both.

I think most people would be more hyped with a new game for Golden Sun, but agreed, I would love to see both. Isaac now moves up to my new number 2 following the inclusions of K. Rool and Ridley.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

***** i know you just didnt put a goddamn goku in there and call it a prediction
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DLC's more of a wishlist than anything.

The base roster is serious prediction territory though.

 

[BeardyBennett]

Okay so with Ridley, King K, Simon/Richter, and Dark Samus in, it's time to update my most wanted list:

(In order)
1. Ray from Custom Robo - second favorite game, desperately want a sequel and for a playable fighter
2. Phoenix Wright- great character, great Nintendo-based games, needs to happen
3. Crono- should have been our Square rep to begin with
4. Paper Mario- WHY HASNT THIS HAPPENED YET
5. Geno- see Crono, but Chrono Trigger is my third favorite game
6. Daroach/Bandana Dee- love me some Kirby
7. Buzzwole- preferred Poke rep
8. Ryu Hayabusa- saw it mentioned in here, makes perfect sense as last major third-party NES icon
9. Banjo Kazooie- N64 icon, and it'd be the best thing Rare has done since....the N64
10. Marina from Mischief Makers- obscure N64 exclusive that needs a sequel and because why not?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I'll go out on a limb and say a Westerner. Which one, I haven't the faintest clue.

Honestly...I wouldn't be surprised. We've now got 3(!) non-Japanese characters in Smash, and they worked with a Western company to get Shovel Knight in, and he looks great.

B-K have a lot of history and definitely got a lot of requests, and there's the enormous popularity of Minecraft. I'd expect those are the most likely.

As to who I'd want... Dear God I want Dovahkiin so bad it's not even funny. Bethesda's playing really friendly with the Switch, Skyrim was the first third-party game (second game overall) shown off for the Switch, it's one of the few Western series to be that well received in Japan, and there's a bit off crossover influence with Breath of the Wild. And it's iconic to the point that everyone recognizes it.

And now that we've got three draconic character AND a dragon boss in Rathalos, it's just too perfect.

Who do you guys think will be announced next?
*Waits for somebody to say Geno*

I am past the point where that would surprise me. If they want to keep building the hype, that does seem like a natural endpoint...

 

[prowler12]

The final reveal of each direct has been i heavy wight so next direct we will get a heavy wight,a least one echo and a random character

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

Since All-Star Mode is obviously gonna have you battle characters by number, how do you think everyone is gonna be separated?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Since have died and lost his manhood and kingdom (obviously), does this mean and are taking care of them?

 

[MrSmashFour]

Honestly, with K. Rool, I have everything I wanted out of this Smash, anything more is just icing on the cake.

With an adventure mode being a gigantic cherry on top...

 

[N3ON]

I've been informed that the Rathalos area isn't just some generic level or MH-themed area, it's an actual specific area from MH4 - Ancestral Steppe - and now I'm having a real hard time imagining it'll be exclusive to whatever Spirits Mode is, should that even function like an Adventure Mode.

It seems increasingly obvious to me that we'll be pushing past 103.

 

[Zinith]

Since All-Star Mode is obviously gonna have you battle characters by number, how do you think everyone is gonna be separated?

I want it in reverse order (King K. Rool to Mario) and the Echo Fighters would be right before their companion fighters.

 

[Deleted member]

An Adventure Mode like Brawl's Subspace Emissary would make me cry with joy. Literally.
Melee's would be cool, but Brawl had a far superior Adventure Mode.

 

[AzureFlame4]

Honestly the only way they could top K Rool would be Goku so... I mean...

Sora or Banjo-Kazooie I think would make people freak out enough to be worth putting as the last character reveal.

 

[QrowinSP]

Since All-Star Mode is obviously gonna have you battle characters by number, how do you think everyone is gonna be separated?

I want it by game. A fight with all of smash 64, then a fight with the melee newcomers, then a fight with the brawl newcomers, then sm4sh, then ultimate.

Yeah, that's a lot at once for some of them, but you can fix that by making each one weaker on average, which you'd need to do anyways considering the size of the cast.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Since All-Star Mode is obviously gonna have you battle characters by number, how do you think everyone is gonna be separated?

Is there a source that confirms this? The game mode will end up becoming way too repetitive with its fighter order if that ends up being the case.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I've been informed that the Rathalos area isn't just some generic level or MH-themed area, it's an actual specific area from MH4 - Ancestral Steppe - and now I'm having a real hard time imagining it'll be exclusive to whatever Spirits Mode is, should that even function like an Adventure Mode.

It seems increasingly obvious to me that we'll be pushing past 103.

I don't even think that it's possible that we've seen every stage. We undoubtedly still have characters to reveal, and there will most definitely be stages for them as well.

I'm just hoping that we don't have to collect CDs. That would be an annoying grind. Characters is cool, even stages is ok. But music? I don't want to grind for that.

Still, I love to go into My Music and set all of that, so now I'm letting it sink in that I'll have to spend HOURS before I even start playing to sort all of the music for the stages I want and then set the frequencies. THIS IS GREAT!

 

[MagnesD3]

After this direct I'm not sure what Sakurai can annouce next.

He already showed all the big guns.

Banjo freaking Kazooie, the dream may be real

 

[Iridium]

So it seems Greninja uses kunai made of water instead of katanas for smash attacks, presumably all. Can't say much for f-air though.

 

[Will]

An Adventure Mode like Brawl's Subspace Emissary would make me nut really hard.
Melee's would be cool, but Brawl had a far superior Adventure Mode.

Adventure had the fanservice.
SSE had the content and the cutscenes.

The problem with SSE is that there's barely any locations that are actually based on Nintendo games. You have generic plains, generic forest, generic jungle, generic canyon, etcetera etcetera. Now an Adventure mode where you explore Mushroom Kingdom, Hyrule, Bionis' Leg (even tho it makes no sense), and so on? **** yeah dude take my 60 buckaroos thats more than worth it.

Banjo freaking Kazooie, the dream may be real

I'm skeptical on Banjo. Hell, I'm skeptical on Microsoft in general. Unless I see a Minecraft or another screwup like with Bloody Tears, I don't know if I personally see a future in it that isn't just a dream.

I wonder what happened to that intern who made the accident.

 

[Murlough]

Please no. Goku is anime first, so his chances are zero percent

I bet Tekken players were saying the same thing.

Were.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Since All-Star Mode is obviously gonna have you battle characters by number, how do you think everyone is gonna be separated?

I'd like for them to go back and pull a Melee instead of Brawl's by series debut and Wii U/3DS's game debut.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

An Adventure Mode like Brawl's Subspace Emissary would make me cry with joy. Literally.
Melee's would be cool, but Brawl had a far superior Adventure Mode.

I think we're getting something between Melee's Adventure Mode and Subspace.

If I had to take a guess at what Spirits Mode is, it's like the Great Maze, but with more Metroidvania components and bosses. You go around collecting the spirits of different fighters, who you then immediately unlock. It can be completed in around the same time as the Great Maze, and has a score mode and difficulty so there's replay-ability.

 

[Starbound]

Since All-Star Mode is obviously gonna have you battle characters by number, how do you think everyone is gonna be separated?

1-6
7-12
13-19
20-26
27-35
36-44
45-53
54-63
64+

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Honestly...I wouldn't be surprised. We've now got 3(!) non-Japanese characters in Smash, and they worked with a Western company to get Shovel Knight in, and he looks great.

B-K have a lot of history and definitely got a lot of requests, and there's the enormous popularity of Minecraft. I'd expect those are the most likely.

As to who I'd want... Dear God I want Dovahkiin so bad it's not even funny. Bethesda's playing really friendly with the Switch, Skyrim was the first third-party game (second game overall) shown off for the Switch, it's one of the few Western series to be that well received in Japan, and there's a bit off crossover influence with Breath of the Wild. And it's iconic to the point that everyone recognizes it.

And now that we've got three draconic character AND a dragon boss in Rathalos, it's just too perfect.


I am past the point where that would surprise me. If they want to keep building the hype, that does seem like a natural endpoint...

On my end, I hope for Dixie (of course), Shantae (definitely more popular in Japan than SK, as far as indies go), Rayman (Ubi support) and Crash Bandicoot (Remastered releases in general). Whether they'll make it in some form is up in the air.

Since have died and lost his manhood and kingdom (obviously), does this mean and are taking care of them?

Considering that Sakurai is not above hurting characters he favors, I'm not sure even those two are safe.

 

[Iridium]

So it seems Greninja usas kunai made of water instead of katanas for smash attacks, presumably all. Can't say much for f-air though.

Here is an actual kunai, for reference.

 

[Deleted member]

I think we're getting something between Melee's Adventure Mode and Subspace.

If I had to take a guess at what Spirits Mode is, it's like the Great Maze, but with more Metroidvania components and bosses. You go around collecting the spirits of different fighters, who you then immediately unlock. It can be completed in around the same time as the Great Maze, and has a score mode and difficulty so there's replay-ability.

MMmmm.... I disagree.
I think it will be a lot like Brawl's Subspace.
Trust me teh, I want to dream.

 

[QrowinSP]

I think we're getting something between Melee's Adventure Mode and Subspace.

If I had to take a guess at what Spirits Mode is, it's like the Great Maze, but with more Metroidvania components and bosses. You go around collecting the spirits of different fighters, who you then immediately unlock. It can be completed in around the same time as the Great Maze, and has a score mode and difficulty so there's replay-ability.

I had an idea where it was melee adventure mode, but there was a pool of like, 50 levels. And then every character had a unique selection of them. And then when you beat all of them, you could go through a gauntlet of all 50 with any character.

I think something like you said makes more sense. That or a straight up campaign.

 

[Will]

I think we're getting something between Melee's Adventure Mode and Subspace.

If I had to take a guess at what Spirits Mode is, it's like the Great Maze, but with more Metroidvania components and bosses. You go around collecting the spirits of different fighters, who you then immediately unlock. It can be completed in around the same time as the Great Maze, and has a score mode and difficulty so there's replay-ability.

No wait a minute. Mario and Mega Man died. We saw Luigi die and become a ghost, AKA a spirit.
Is this leading up to something?