Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pyra]

"Gee Captain Falcon, how come your mom lets you have two clones?"

In a perfect world, all echo fighters would be born from the resounding echo of a Falcon Punch

 

[Originality]

Every time I make a bet against something it happens. So the one thing stopping me from eating a shoe (when the leaker said that Ice Climbers, Wolf, Snake were coming back along with Simon) is Simon being announced. I'm going to now bet that Simon WILL be revealed tomorrow, that way he WON'T!!

Dang you've beat the system, might as well change my signature now

 

[Will]

Besides, it's out of character for Ashley to pawnch. She is a witch, so she would cast spells.

Consider the following:

A spell that punches you.

 

[Noipoi]

In a perfect world, all echo fighters would be born from the resounding echo of a Falcon Punch

"We've come up with a name for characters who are based off Captain Falcon. Falcon Fighters."
Then after the direct everyone talks about if Shadow would be a Falcon Fighter.

 

[Pyra]

Quite honestly, I don't this is possible. Given the size differences, a lot of her animations would have to stretch her arms and legs to make them have similar reach. Also, this is totally discrediting all of Ashley's unique abilities. Besides, it's out of character for Ashley to pawnch. She is a witch, so she would cast spells.

I honestly don't see where you were getting at with this question and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for asking. Don't you agree?

And if you say no, you're toast.

Just stretch Captain Falcon down to Ashley's size.
I don't see the problem.

You think that fire falcon isn't a spell?
You don't think the Good Captain isn't a master class wizard????

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

Consider the following:

A spell that punches you.

you mean like dis

 

[ZephyrZ]

Is it weird that I don't want Incineroar almost entirely on the basis that I think that its name is awful?

Seel and Boldore for Smash.

 

[Pyra]

you mean like dis

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Woah, it's nice to see that Bayonetta is confirmed as an Ashley Falcon Fighter

 

[Mutsukki]

I mean being fair, at least Mona had her theme song remixed back in Brawl and Kat & Ana where the first Assist Trophies. Jimmy T unfortunately got the short end of the stick though (Please at least bring the Body Rock theme in Smash Sakurai)

Speaking of 9-Volt, I'm surprised he isn't more popular since I'm sure his Microgames are usually the most popular in the Wario Ware series.

Jimmy actually physically appears in the WarioWare stage as a microgame gimmick where everyone has to taunt.

But then again Mona got a trophy in Smash 4 and Jimmy didn't. (But then again got her own song cut in the same game lol)

But anyway I don't think WarioWare really has any seniority going for it when Crygor didn't have any story segments in Smooth Moves, Dribble and Spitz were completely ignored on Touched, alongside with Orbulon who also kinda got the short end of the stick in Smooth Moves too.

Jimmy and Mona are forever mainstays for sure, but I don't think it'd be absurd for Ashley to make it in before them.

 

[Idon]

It's Tomoko with Megumin magic mashed together, you call that unique?

Hey, relative to Smash, OK?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Jimmy T Assist Trophy:
He starts dancing on stage and anyone who gets near gets locked into a dancing animation.
Yes, everyone will get a dancing animation and no I don't care about your "BUT DEVELOPMENT TIME" arguments because the rule of cool™ supersedes temporal logic.

Just have everybody taunt spontaneously, problem solved.

 

[MBRedboy31]

"Look up to your idols and never give up."
Captain Falcon then daydreams about being as cool as Marth.

Then he breaks down crying every time he remembers that Ganondorf got new smash attacks in Ultimate.
“Why did Dorf have to be a clone and not an echo?! An echo is a symbol of trust; Marth will always have Lucina at his side! It’s not fair!”

 

[Pyra]

Just have everybody taunt spontaneously, problem solved.

No. They all need to dance. I need to see Ridley trapped in a dance animation. You can't take this from me by acting like taunts work as a replacement.
No.

 

[SlickWylde]

So a good japanese time huh? I believe Ashley and K.Rool were very popular there among others that I probably don't even know. But that line about red eyes and not being a vampire screams Ashley to me, even though I know Sakurai doesn't do this kind of stuff. I still think we're getting Simon Belmont this Wednesday.

You shut your mouth, heathen. No Simon! No Simon! (Hopefully everybody realizes this is made in jest, not actually telling you to shut up)

 

[Mutsukki]

Then he breaks down crying every time he remembers that Ganondorf got new smash attacks in Ultimate.
“Why did Dorf have to be a clone and not an echo?! An echo is a symbol of trust; Marth will always have Lucina at his side! It’s not fair!”

I love how this was THE game for Blood Falcon, but the first thing the Captain Falcon character page does is deconfirm him, lol

 

[Blargg888]

Yeah Wario Land Shake it is one of my favorite games like ever, it's soooo good. But I gotta say I don't like Good-Feel doing Yoshi games either, I didn't really care for Yoshi's Wooly World, unlike Kirby's Epic Yarn which I absolutely adore.

But then again, I'd rather have Good-Feel handle Yoshi than Arzest doing... well, anything at all. Yoshi's New Island might just very well be one of the worst "big name" Nintendo games I've ever played. And when I learned that they were doing Hey Pikmin, I just steered away from that game as much as I could.

Thanks for reminding me that Wario Land Shake-It! exists.

I would absolutely love to have music from that game in Smash. Especially this song:

 

[Just a random scrub]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

For me, the SSF2 Beta update managed to come out at around this time frame, so that should be more than enough to tide me over til then.

 

[Xgears]

Did you guys see a leak today that got posted on 4chan?

Appearently it got deleted. Is it possible to delete 4chan threads?

 

[MSmariosonic]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

Mostly play Tekken 7

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Alright but consider this:
Blaziken being a Captain Falcon clone

I see that you're a man of culture

Because Blaziken has striking similarities to Falcon. Only thing I can see that's a bit different is his Final Smash being Mega Blaziken with some kind of Mega Blaze Kick idk

 

[Bowserlick]

I'm guessing a pokemon Wednesday.

If Ultra Beast, then either: Nihilego or Buzzwole or Phermosa

If Alolan Trainer then Rowlett, Torracat, and Primarina

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Thanks for reminding me that Wario Land Shake-It! exists.

I would absolutely love to have music from that game in Smash. Especially this song:

Technically speaking, his current victory theme is a snippet of the first stage's theme in that game.

 

[Mutsukki]

Thanks for reminding me that Wario Land Shake-It! exists.

I would absolutely love to have music from that game in Smash. Especially this song:

I was really happy when the Ruins theme made it in Smash 4, but we definitely need more songs for sure!
I'd be really down for this one since it was from Wario World originally and it's so gooood.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Did you guys see a leak today that got posted on 4chan?

Appearently it got deleted. Is it possible to delete 4chan threads?

Do you remember what it said?

 

[Noipoi]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

For me, the SSF2 Beta update managed to come out at around this time frame, so that should be more than enough to tide me over til then.

It's only one day away almost, at least in my time zone. I'll just do what I normally do.

 

[MBRedboy31]

I love how this was THE game for Blood Falcon, but the first thing the Captain Falcon character page does is deconfirm him, lol

I mean... technically, it doesn’t actually disconfirm him, he might be a costume that changes the name, like Alph. I kinda doubt that, but we just don’t know.

 

[SquashiniKun]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

For me, the SSF2 Beta update managed to come out at around this time frame, so that should be more than enough to tide me over til then.

Nothin' much, just trying to survive until Wednesday

Did you guys see a leak today that got posted on 4chan?

Appearently it got deleted. Is it possible to delete 4chan threads?

Did you screencap it?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Alright but consider this:
Ashley being a Captain Falcon clone

Yes. We need it.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

For me, the SSF2 Beta update managed to come out at around this time frame, so that should be more than enough to tide me over til then.

The usual, do some Treasure Tracker progress and RetroAchievements stuff, among assorted things.

 

[Xgears]

Nothin' much, just trying to survive until Wednesday


Did you screencap it?

Yes, but not the whole thing. How do I post images here? I forgot.

 

[vaanrose]

People are always quick to point out how most characters that get in are important to their franchise, and use it as evidence that only important characters get in.

But here's the thing about that. Most those characters are also really popular. That's usually what happens with main characters. They get fans.

There aren't many cases of the most popular characters in a franchise not being one of the main characters, so there's really nobody to compare a character like Ashley to. She's an outlier.

 

[ZephyrZ]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

For me, the SSF2 Beta update managed to come out at around this time frame, so that should be more than enough to tide me over til then.

I'm beating 3DS classic mode on 9.0 intensity with every character. I probably won't ever touch Smash 4 again after Ultimate releases, so now is my last chance to do it. So far I've actually had the game crash on me twice, both times on Green Hill Zone.

Also Master Shadow DHD's Smash Attacks are stupid. But not nearly as stupid as Metal Lucario.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in terms of what leaks get killed Wednesday.

While I realize Vergeben isn't well liked around this parts (rightfully so, but not to the extent that people are namecalling), I think it'll be interesting to see what becomes of his information after tomorrow.

For example, if we get Simon I think it absolutely lends credibility to him. Very few people considered Simon as a likely Smash choice. However, I'm sure he'll be considered a "lucky guess". Really I think Vergeben should be treated just like Gematsu until we see something wrong. Personally, I think he got legit information for the first reveal with Ridley, Snake, and everything else he predicted.

Isabelle I think, despite having my reservations about her, is a safe pick because Animal Crossing is considered "likely" to get a newcomer in some capacity.

Here are the things that will give him credibility, or pretty much kill his credibility. To be honest though, I think it's a leak by leak basis with him.

1. If we get Lycanroc, Mimikyu, or Decidueye as a Pokemon newcomer. This will destroy him. If we get somebody that isn't those 3 and it's from Gen 7, he lives.

2. If we get a character that wasn't previously mentioned (I'm hoping for this), it does nothing to his credibility. Some of you may question this, but just because he doesn't have that information doesn't mean he's a fraud. It simply echoes similarities to Gematsu, in that some information was not included or wasn't given to him.

I still think it's best to approach any leaks with caution, but to also not instantly cast them off as fraudulent. I just hope we get a clearer picture of what the roster direction is looking like.

Smashboards reaction when Celica is revealed as a newcomer and Chrom as an echo:

 

[Will]

Yeah I find it weird they used a Wario Land game for a theme instead of an actual WarioWare themed one. Then again, I don't recall any particular themes they could pull from the series for Wario. But for me this would've been better if they used a WL victory theme.

Wario Land had such ****ing bangers dude.

Spoiler

Wario Land 3 is actually my favorite game of all time.

 

[Deleted member]

What taglines do you have for your favorite characters? Here's a few of mine...

King K Rool takes over!
Paper Mario folds the competition!
Crash Bandicoot crashes the party!

SIMON BELMONT STARTS HIS QUEST!

GAME OVER: RETURN OF GANON!

ISAAC LETS OUT A HOWL!

That's all i can think of.

 

[P.Kat]

What taglines do you have for your favorite characters? Here's a few of mine...

King K Rool takes over!
Paper Mario folds the competition!
Crash Bandicoot crashes the party!

Lyn guards the Plains
Amaterasu makes her mark!
Elma duals her challengers
Shantae dances on
Sora has the key to victory

Hey so

I never said anything about Elma being a lock or 100% guaranteed? I was just saying that it was unlikely they’d pick Cross, the player avatar, over her. That’s all.

aaaaaanyway

What unseen as of yet stages are y’all expecting to see?

Fountain of Dreams, Pirate Ship, Windy Hill, and Rainbow Cruise

 

[Blargg888]

So, how do ya guys plan on making the time til the Direct pass?

The Cross Tag DLC should be out by tonight, aside from that, I could always try to complete Trails in the Sky the 3rd. I guess I could also mow the lawn, but it's raining, so not today.

I'll need to try to wake up pretty early if I want to catch the Direct. What I'm looking forward to most honestly isn't even a new character. I want to see the stages and characters we haven't seen as much of, like Toon Link and FoD.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yeah I find it weird they used a Wario Land game for a theme instead of an actual WarioWare themed one. Then again, I don't recall any particular themes they could pull from the series for Wario. But for me this would've been better if they used a WL victory theme.

Wario Land had such ****ing bangers dude.

Spoiler

Wario Land 3 is actually my favorite game of all time.

To me, it would have been fitting to pick the first game's victory theme.

Or better yet, Wario World's:

 

[RouffWestie]

People are always quick to point out how most characters that get in are important to their franchise, and use it as evidence that only important characters get in.

But here's the thing about that. Most those characters are also really popular. That's usually what happens with main characters. They get fans.

There aren't many cases of the most popular characters in a franchise not being one of the main characters, so there's really nobody to compare a character like Ashley to. She's an outlier.

Daisy and Waluigi I’d say are pretty similar.

 

[Idon]

Daisy and Waluigi I’d say are pretty similar.

Ashley confirmed Peach echo?