Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[True Blue Warrior]

What would be your reaction if?

Banjo and Kazooie were announced ALONG WITH...

James Bond

I really would be hyped for James, I mean he was considered in Melee (surprisingly) and seeing how Sakurai is probably looking back at it, but seriously, having Goldenye 007 content in Smash would be a blast, not to mention how it was a big part of Nintendo during the 64 era. Well RARE was a big part during that time.

Banjo would be pretty cool. James Bond on the other hand, even if he's one of the few non-video game characters that kinda makes sense, would just open up a floodgate I'd rather keep closed.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

What would be your reaction if?

Banjo and Kazooie was announced ALONG WITH...

James Bond.

Spoiler: Me:

I really would be hyped for James, I mean he was considered in Melee (surprisingly) and seeing how Sakurai is probably looking back at it, but seriously, having Goldenye 007 content in Smash would be a blast, not to mention how it was a big part of Nintendo during the 64 era. Well RARE was a big part during that time.

Never played a Banjo or Goldeneye Game. But Id' love it. Banjo just looks fun. And James Bond in smash Gives me an excuse to make my dad play Smash. (He played Goldeneye as a kid)

 

[Fatmanonice]

Someone posted this on Know Your Meme and it's pretty helpful if you want to have an idea about the gap between character announcements for the last three games. To avoid super skewing the data, the Brawl era was basically cut in half and only counts the days that the Dojo did daily updates.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

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Someone posted this on Know Your Meme and it's pretty helpful if you want to have an idea about the gap between character announcements for the last three games. To avoid super skewing the data, the Brawl era was basically cut in half and only counts the days that the Dojo did daily updates.

What's with the barnyard cow in the bottom right corner?

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

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Someone posted this on Know Your Meme and it's pretty helpful if you want to have an idea about the gap between character announcements for the last three games. To avoid super skewing the data, the Brawl era was basically cut in half and only counts the days that the Dojo did daily updates.

Yeah. thing we went over this a few pages back. Is a pretty nice chart.

 

[Pyra]

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Someone posted this on Know Your Meme and it's pretty helpful if you want to have an idea about the gap between character announcements for the last three games. To avoid super skewing the data, the Brawl era was basically cut in half and only counts the days that the Dojo did daily updates.

"Muh drought!!!!"

Anyway, Sunday night seems like it'd be an interesting time...

 

[Roberk]

Unpopular Opinion, but I would much rather have Dillon as an Echo of Sonic than Shadow #sorrynotsorry

Not going to lie, Dillon sounds awesome. If we could get him as a unique character then he could have tower defense mechanics and that's not a genre/playstyle we have in Smash yet. Also, I really like his Western aesthetic. #DillonForSmash.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

What's with the barnyard cow in the bottom right corner?

You mean the God Otis

Unpopular Opinion, but I would much rather have Dillon as an Echo of Sonic than Shadow #sorrynotsorry

Someone who is inferior to Shadow getting in Smash before he does...nah

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

What would be your reaction if?

Banjo and Kazooie was announced ALONG WITH...

James Bond.

Spoiler: Me:

I really would be hyped for James, I mean he was considered in Melee (surprisingly) and seeing how Sakurai is probably looking back at it, but seriously, having Goldenye 007 content in Smash would be a blast, not to mention how it was a big part of Nintendo during the 64 era. Well RARE was a big part during that time.

I'd be ecstatic about BK.

James, however, I would have mixed feelings about. On one hand the Goldeneye movie is fun and game is good (the unrelated Game Boy Bond not being too shabby itself), but on the other I would prefer seeing Popeye as a licensed character, provided that he becomes public domain everywhere first.

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Someone posted this on Know Your Meme and it's pretty helpful if you want to have an idea about the gap between character announcements for the last three games. To avoid super skewing the data, the Brawl era was basically cut in half and only counts the days that the Dojo did daily updates.

I feel that the last one would only be accurate if it's posted three months later, if absolutely nothing of note happened in the meantime.

 

[WallyPalmer]

There is only one BK for smash.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Pff you know how much of a kick in the teeth it would be to PSASBR if Ryu, Cloud, Snake, and Heihachi were all in Smash Bros.?

I mean I love PSAS, and the 3rd parties represented in that game are great, but damn at how lackluster the roster looks in comparison to Smash.

Personally, I don't know if it'll be as hype if Heihachi gets in, as much as he's my favorite Tekken character, but imagine if Sub-Zero or, preferably, Scorpion was announced. It would blow the **** up.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Pff you know how much of a kick in the teeth it would be to PSASBR if Ryu, Cloud, Snake, and Heihachi were all in Smash Bros.?

What would be even worse for PSASBR is if Crash ends up being playable as a DLC character.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Pff you know how much of a kick in the teeth it would be to PSASBR if Ryu, Cloud, Snake, and Heihachi were all in Smash Bros.?

I mean I love PSAS, and the 3rd parties represented in that game are great, but damn at how lackluster the roster looks in comparison to Smash.

Personally, I don't know if it'll be as hype if Heihachi gets in, as much as he's my favorite Tekken character, but imagine if Sub-Zero or, preferably, Scorpion was announced. It would blow the **** up.

That'd be great, honestly.

Although it's a pity that PSAS is the last big noteworthy thing for folks like Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper and Ape Escape's Spike to show up in. It feels less like an all-stars crossover and more of "here's the last chance for our has-been mascots to leave their mark before being locked in our vault forever", even if some of said mascots got to have their series revived some time afterwards (not the three I mentioned).

 

[N3ON]

More straightforward fighting games don't mesh well with Smash in my eyes. I agree with Sakurai's past statement about fighting game characters in Smash, even if it seems like it was mistranslated or something. Ryu still feels out of place to me, so I wouldn't be big on seeing someone like Heihachi or Scorpion or something. This is just my sentiment, but those kind of worlds feel closer to the comic-book variety, which is why those Marvel and DC crossovers work so well.

The exceptions imo would be characters from atypical fighters, art design-wise. Like Guilty Gear/BlazBlue/Skullgirls, etc.

Most people don't seem to agree with this mentality anymore, though believe me, before Ryu it was a different story. Then again general Smash opinion changing with the wind is not super shocking at this point.

 

[Pyra]

There is only one BK for smash.
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We need more king/royal characters.

In fact, story mode needs to involve kingdoms. Kinda like Mario Odyssey, but Nintendo-wide. Ganondorf (and Zelda), King Koopa (and the Princesses), King Dedede, King K. Rool, Burger King
Fire Emblem also consists of royalty

Nintendo faction war let's go

EDIT:
The more I think about it the more I want this unironically

I also pretty badly want Bowser's kingdom to be a stage haha

 

[ZephyrZ]

Unpopular Opinion, but I would much rather have Dillon as an Echo of Sonic than Shadow #sorrynotsorry

I would rather have Dillon as well, but he wouldn't really fit over Sonic's skeleton. Sonic even does a few things Dillon's model just wouldn't be able to, like using his spikes in his u-throw.

 

[-crump-]

Something semi-interesting to note, the weekly review that usually gets posted in the News section for Switch seems to be a tad late. It usually gets sent out fairly early on Friday from what I’ve observed, but today it has yet to appear.

Perhaps they are holding it for some kind of announcement‽‽‽‽‽

...probably not, but it’s fun to think about.

 

[Pyra]

Something semi-interesting to note, the weekly review that usually gets posted in the News section for Switch seems to be a tad late. It usually gets sent out fairly early on Friday from what I’ve observed, but today it has yet to appear.

Perhaps they are holding it for some kind of announcement?????

...probably not, but it’s fun to think about

Nope. Fun thought, though.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Although it's a pity that PSAS is the last big noteworthy thing for folks like Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper and Ape Escape's Spike to show up in. It feels less like an all-stars crossover and more of "here's the last chance for our has-been mascots to leave their mark before being locked in our vault forever", even if some of said mascots got to have their series revived some time afterwards (not the three I mentioned).

Well Sly Cooper had a game that came out months after PSASBR, better than nothing

What would be even worse for PSASBR is if Crash ends up being playable as a DLC character.

Still be a better idea than Sony not bringing Crash to their Smash Bros

imagine if Sub-Zero or, preferably, Scorpion was announced. It would blow the **** up.

Still waiting for the day

More straightforward fighting games don't mesh well wish Smash in my eyes. I agree with Sakurai's past statement about fighting game characters in Smash, even if it seems like it was mistranslated or something. Ryu still feels out of place to me, so I wouldn't be big on seeing someone like Heihachi or Scorpion or something. This is just my sentiment, but those kind of worlds feel closer to the comic-book variety, which is why those Marvel and DC crossovers work so well.

The exceptions imo would be characters from atypical fighters, art design-wise. Like Guilty Gear/BlazBlue/Skullgirls, etc.

Most people don't seem to agree with this mentality anymore, though believe me, before Ryu it was a different story. Then again general Smash opinion changing with the wind is not super shocking at this point.

I had no problems with Ryu joining a cartoony world after thinking about Snake (though of course even without that I was still shocked and amazed)

 

[Crap-Zapper]

What would be your reaction if?

Banjo and Kazooie was announced ALONG WITH...

James Bond.

Spoiler: Me:

I really would be hyped for James, I mean he was considered in Melee (surprisingly) and seeing how Sakurai is probably looking back at it, but seriously, having Goldenye 007 content in Smash would be a blast, not to mention how it was a big part of Nintendo during the 64 era. Well RARE was a big part during that time.

Banjo & Kazooie would be cool for the Rare era thingy, and the fact that their proporations and design works well within Smash, that they could be considered fun within my view.

James Bond is one of those characters I feel few people would be interested in, originally, but I'd love to see it happen. Still, people would be salty about him being a non-video game originated character. I guess people would expect the likes of Goku and Mickey Mouse next (Whoem I don't really mind at all, but those 3 would be the only ones too.)

 

[BlueMagician]

Speaking of Heihachi, I kinda think Jin would work better for Smash because he can fly.

 

[Crap-Zapper]

Speaking of Heihachi, I kinda think Jin would work better for Smash because he can fly.

No. Devil Jin can fly. Not Jin. And you know transformation characters are not part of the game.

Also, who are you kidding. Heihachi is the only true Tekken character, Heihachi or bust.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Well Sly Cooper had a game that came out months after PSASBR, better than nothing

I had no problems with Ryu joining a cartoony world after thinking about Snake (though of course even without that I was still shocked and amazed)

Considering how Sanzaru butchered the story for that one (turning off everyone from the Sly series), nothing would have been better, honestly.

That said, having Morrigan as another fighting series rep would work, since her series is quite cartoony as is.

 

[Mc.Rad]

Bad news for Ashley fans today

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Bad news for Ashley fans today

They also rebuffed a guy saying 9-Volt was the best.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

No. Devil Jin can fly. Not Jin. And you know transformation characters are not part of the game.

Also, who are you kidding. Heihachi is the only true Tekken character, Heihachi or bust.

Technically there are transformation characters...but you can’t play as them unless they’re Pimp Daddy Giga Bowser

Considering how Sanzaru butchered the story for that one (turning off everyone from the Sly series), nothing would have been better, honestly.

That said, having Morrigan as another fighting series rep would work, since her series is quite cartoony as is.

Well...atleast they tried to have something over nothing

 

[Crap-Zapper]

Bad news for Ashley fans today

I beg to differ, Nintendo of America, but ... I know why.
Ashley = Represents Japan.
Wario = Represents America.
Mona = Represents Australia.
Jimmy T = Represents Europe.
9-Volt = Represent every gamer.

 

[drag0nscythe]

View attachment 155491

Someone posted this on Know Your Meme and it's pretty helpful if you want to have an idea about the gap between character announcements for the last three games. To avoid super skewing the data, the Brawl era was basically cut in half and only counts the days that the Dojo did daily updates.

I would say this image is not accurate. Even though the old blogs did not show characters, it did show new information. Which is what we are lacking. Characters were best, but new items, stages, etc were great. I know we had massive info dump from e3, but one new thing (outside of music), a week would help with the wait.

 

[Murlough]

No. Devil Jin can fly. Not Jin. And you know transformation characters are not part of the game.

Also, who are you kidding. Heihachi is the only true Tekken character, Heihachi or bust.

1. Pokemon Trainer
2. He doesn't need to "transform" mechanically. They could just change his appearance and give him wings like Pit had in Brawl for his up-special.
3. Heihachi or bust.

 

[Koopaul]

People who keep suggesting Dillon be an echo of Sonic really don't know anything about Dillon other than he rolls around.

Hell, Dillon's roll attack works more like Jigglypuff's Rollout than Sonic's Spin Dash.

Then you have the fact that Dillon has his signature Claw Swipes, Bombs, Burrowing, and more.

Plus in order to be an echo all of his specials would have to be the same, which means Dillon would have to use a Spring as his Up Special... What?!

 

[Pyra]

Now that Nintendo's twitter is "back to normal", this tweet is significantly more hilarious

WAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) August 3, 2018

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I would say this image is not accurate. Even though the old blogs did not show characters, it did show new information. Which is what we are lacking. Characters were best, but new items, stages, etc were great. I know we had massive info dump from e3, but one new thing (outside of music), a week would help with the wait.

Something tells me that the staffs managing the latest website actually are not that competent and have no idea how to stall the public.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Something tells me that the staffs managing the latest website actually are not that competent and have no idea how to stall the public.

I agree. They are doing a poor job of it. Hype is high, but i see it dwindling.

Even a goofy pick of the day would help with the wait.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Now that Nintendo's twitter is "back to normal", this tweet is significantly more hilarious

WAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) August 3, 2018

I wonder what Nintendo was on to let Wario get into their Twitter account

 

[BlondeLombax]

Bad news for Ashley fans today

They also rebuffed a guy saying 9-Volt was the best.

Well, for the record, that WAS Wario himself who posted it. I doubt it means anything important.

 

[KMDP]

Yeah, Butterfly is good. Hmmm, I see your Butterfly and raise you...

WANNA BE THE BIGGEST DREAMER
RUNNING FULL SPEED THROUGH
BOTH THE FUTURE AND THE PRESENT

Also best English Digimon song.

Hey, never said Biggest Dreamer wasn't great. ;D

Also the best English Digimon song still pales in comparison to all the Japanese ones.

As a left handed person, I am astounded people latched onto Links handedness. I did not pick up on it or care in all my time playing LoZ.

I was going to say something like that, but as a right-handed person I didn't want to come off as an ass. Glad you said it for me.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Well, for the record, that WAS Wario himself who posted it. I doubt it means anything important.

Wario is Nintendo though, so he purposely kicked Ashley out of Smash due to fearing her

 

[Opossum]

We need more king/royal characters.

In fact, story mode needs to involve kingdoms. Kinda like Mario Odyssey, but Nintendo-wide. Ganondorf (and Zelda), King Koopa (and the Princesses), King Dedede, King K. Rool, Burger King
Fire Emblem also consists of royalty

Nintendo faction war let's go

EDIT:
The more I think about it the more I want this unironically

I also pretty badly want Bowser's kingdom to be a stage haha

Don't forget Little Mac, the King of the Ring.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

People who keep suggesting Dillon be an echo of Sonic really don't know anything about Dillon other than he rolls around.

Hell, Dillon's roll attack works more like Jigglypuff's Rollout than Sonic's Spin Dash.

Then you have the fact that Dillon has his signature Claw Swipes, Bombs, Burrowing, and more.

Plus in order to be an echo all of his specials would have to be the same, which means Dillon would have to use a Spring as his Up Special... What?!

It's kinda sad people only seem to bring up dillon as being a sonic echo for some reason, I've never played his games but he seems to have a lot of potential as a unique character, he's literally from a tower defence game which is something we've never seen in a character, that alone could allow for a unique playstyle.

 

[WallyPalmer]

Don't forget Little Mac, the King of the Ring.

King of my Heart