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No no, K.Rool is a character that's all but confirmed, but I'm very interested in hearing where you got this mindset from. Elma has hardly any evidence to support her inclusion as of right now, and I'll admit that Rex is one of the more likely candidates as DLC, but both are nowhere near as popular as someone like K.Rool to just "expect" at this point.
With the amount of newcomers we're getting (not many), I wouldn't count on her showing up. Or anyone really. Maybe she'll be Sakurai's one passion character, but I think they're going for the really popular/iconic character this time around, the one that fans have been asking for for a while - i.e. Ridley, Daisy, etc.
How is K. Rool all but confirmed? I haven’t seen any evidence whatsoever for K. Rool being in
Well you can only hope he did well in the ballot for him to be a playable character, whether its base game or DLC.I have no ill will against Xenoblade or its loyal fans, and I'm happy if you guys will probably get characters you like.
But just take timing out of it for a second. If Xenoblade can get a character from each of its three games and we can't even get ONE character from Golden Sun, a series with equal volume and roughly equal reception, just because of crummy timing, that's nonsense. And you know what, there's a real chance it'll happen.
Yeah. Though I'd say it's more of the latter.
The Mii Costume during the Smash 4 DLC, being one of the most popular/requested characters with a game focused on fan service, Ridley already got in
I don't need to explain why K.Rool is a lock if you've a part of the Smash community. His popularity is almost Ridley-tier, he has literally no reasons for not getting in at this point, and his popularity far exceeds characters like Elma. Not saying she won't get in, but other characters have way more of a chance.
Get outta with that fluff.
Nothing is anywhere near the level of Ridley tier.
That is pretty much what I'm holding on to now~~
i know this thread is ridiculously long but this was already addressed thoroughly. the conclusion: the costumes dont mean too much. unless you want to argue Heihachi and a list of other characters will be in as well. and king k isnt near ridley in request or popularity. ridley was a known popular request prior to social media. it was just a kniwn request. i perosnally trace it back to the melee cinematic and him not being in the game. king k has zeor references in smash games ridely has been present in every smash game since melee. he's been in more smash games than a large part of the current playable roster. there's no comparison.
Imma take a stab at it:
Another spoiler: 99% of the thread is fluff.
Chicken Salad Brain: Both Tora from Xenoblade 2 and the previously mentioned Dora from Dora the Explorer are added to Smash, and when you put them on the same team, the game turns into a Romantic Comedy.
I mean, technically the confirmed ones aren't "All but confirmed" either, since by virtue of being confirmed, they can't be "all but confirmed".
This is something that seems odd to me - Why can series like Kid Icarus get as many characters as it has games, when it's not Nintendo's biggest franchise? Xeno's got a grand total of three games - at least under the Nintendo banner, while other series are lucky to get anything. Everyone points to DK, with 3 games in the DK arcade series, 5 in the Country branch, 3 DK land, and DK64, with numerous spinoffs and crossovers with Mario - and two characters and no assist trophies. Or consider Zelda with 19 main series games and a load of spinoffs, where most of their console games are GOTY winners, yet their character set is realistically only 3 unique movesets and 3 semi-clones.I have no ill will against Xenoblade or its loyal fans, and I'm happy if you guys will probably get characters you like.
But just take timing out of it for a second. If Xenoblade can get a character from each of its three games and we can't even get ONE character from Golden Sun, a series with equal volume and roughly equal reception, just because of crummy timing, that's nonsense. And you know what, there's a real chance it'll happen.
Wanna tell me Ultimate is actually technically Smash 6, while you're at it?
It could be for anything, but it would make a lot of sense for Elma, I don’t know what else the rifle would be for, could possibly be a Subspace thing? Idk. But I don’t think it would be for something like just a trophy or something
I know it was discussed. But if we're talking about a mecha rifle "confirming" Elma, then the Mii Costume could be evidence that Sakurai was maybe thinking about including K Rool. Not saying he's a lock or anything, just a possibility.
Well... duh; nobody is confirmed unless is actually confirmed.
Well, I did make a post about this subject earlier, with how costumes of existing characters seemed to borrow assets from the characters they were based off of. Here it is for your reading pleasure (or pain, it goes either way).
So I've been thinking about something lately, but it took me up to now from a year ago to actually make it public.
Has anyone bothered to take a look at the Mii Fighter outfits based off of some of the characters in-game? I might overthinking it, but I think that some of them might just be using almost the exact same models as the characters that they're based off of. First off, let's look at Samus and her Mii outfit.
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When I look at it, I can see a lot of similarities to Samus herself, especially when it comes to the torso area and arm cannon. It's almost the same model, only with changed proportions in relation to the assigned Mii. Samus isn't the only one who's affected either, because Captain Falcon has the same situation.
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The helmet, the boots, the scarf, the belt, and even the emblem of Falcon's back - they're all almost the exact same things that are present on the Mii costume, which give light t the possibility that they're shared models with alterations made for the Miis. Taking this into consideration, I personally believe that Sakurai may just be able to utilize the Mii outfits made in Sm4sh for the Switch game, meaning that all of these characters may actually have a great shot this time around (after all, we have the Inklings on the way).
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Am I crazy, or am I on to something? Not even I know.
Inkling was.
Yeah, I could see that being the case for a couple characters, if you have these assets already made why not use them again?
Characters like Kuckles, Tails, Heihachi, Jacky, and Flying Man also had Mii Costumes.
When we only have three newcomers announced, one of which was the only one I could remotely call a "lock"
, can we really say for sure if this game is gonna focus on fan demand for its newcomers? That's what I think will happen personally, but I wanna see other newcomers before I write it off as such.What does that have to do with anything? Because he was popular in speculation? So were a lot of other characters before they got in, what makes K. Rool any different?
How can you call someone a lock when they failed to make it into the last game? Nothing has changed for K. Rool since Smash 4 and his competition has only gotten stronger. It's just like Arlo saying Waluigi was guaranteed for this game despite him not getting in the three or arguably four chances he got.
Actually that was entirely coincidental. I just took the picture the moment the match started.
Meanwhile, the handful of Dr. Wright fans will be sad that Isabelle got in over him.
In before it's revealed that Sakurai's been working on a Vifam game all along.
But seriously, if it's not for Smash, what could he possibly be planning to do with it?
- Ken. The model exists already. The only different between the two is Ken has more speed and his uppercut has a fire element to it.as interactions of Chun LI have muscular legs, though they're thickness varies.- The Boss. Basically 's model with moves - Mrs. Pacman as an alt (That's all I got)- Tails Model exists and is rigged as he appears in the Green Hill Zone stage, could use an altered version of final smash.- Tifa. Popular character can use an altered version models, Can be a stew of seen hereSee here - Jeanne Bayo's Luigi. Her model exists and uses all the same abilities as Bayo. In Bayo 2 her Witch Time needs more precision to pull off. Various flavor texts describe her as the swordswoman of the two. reincarnated possibly as a female Lumen Sage. for Bayo 3.
There might be a tiny issue with the existing models, as they're either lower-poly than player characters (Gray Fox & Shadow, being assist trophies) or ripped from their original games (Jeanne & Ken). I think they'd still be pretty cool to see nonetheless, though. I welcome anyone and everyone to Smash.Thinking about it if all the 3rd partys got a +1 from their series do to overwhelming popularity, this is how I see it going based on ease of accessibility or preexisting assets. One is most likely the other is a stretch but just as possible
- Chun Li. The popular +1 of Ryu in a lot of crossovers namely Marvel vs Capcom. Has similar tools to Ryu, but is faster and and more aerial in most adaptations. Possibly shares a body type with
-Grey Fox. The model exists and is already rigged.
- Shadow. Though he has a few abilties that differ from Sonic these vary from game to game and can be ignored, while still staying true the character. His model exists, its rigged, and can have the same Final Smash as Sonic with little to no changes.
- Sephiroth, he's him... Assets could be a mix of
- (Bayo fans can call me out if this doesn't happen) I think Bayo 3 is going to have a true 3rd girl in it. Similarly to how Nero is the 3rd guy in the DMC series.
I do not know the nature of this character, I doubt it's going to be a child of either one of the current characters though. If anything it's a totally new character or a version of
What I'm getting at is that this character, whatever they are will be in Smash a promotional character ala
That was a special case; no even Miyamoto would stop that from happening
Who this?
Can we get someone to compare the Inklings Model to the Mii Costume? That would either confirm or disconfirm this theory.
The main protagonist from Tales of Symphonia.
K. Rool is the only character I have strong confidence in. Regardless, I'm happy with the roster.
Wouldn't this be a 3rd party character? I know he's with Namco but...man that's kind of a stretch. Tales of X isn't exactly a world class franchise.
