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oh, the first part definitely makes sense. they're in order by game. but i think the alphabetical order by japanese name is just a coincidence. they'd either be in english, sorted by the english alphabet, or in japanese, sorted by the japanese alphabet. not a mix of the two.
All evidence is pointing to his return
well, i admit i'm no expert whatsoever at japanese, but it just seems a little fishy the way that some of those names are spelled to make the pattern work. take Ice Climbers, for instance. now it's sorted under "Popo" instead of the series name. o_O
Oh well, maybe they'll make flatzone not suck this time around...
No, aran fusion said that this proves that the icons aren't in any specific order because Snake's is before Pit's, which makes no sense because Snake's should be before Pit's. But I wasn't referring to him specifically either, someone says something stupid like that everytime we get a new icon.
Then how would you explain the fact that all of the icons end up going exactly where they're predicted to go? They're clearly in order. The only thing that makes it confusing is that some of them are listed by their game's name, and some of them are listed by their main character's name for some reason.
Yes.
I said what I said not meaning it disproved anything, tard.
Learn to read indeed. I was defending the theory.
The logos ARE sorted by Japanese names after all.Ah-ha! It seems Snake is number 17. So Sakurai didnt put third parties in a different section.
Well duh, we figure that out a long while ago...
Yeah, that was me. And you're correct, I said there is no mystical alphabetical order that the Japanese use that you people can apply to this theory.
I'm pretty sure that, if you hack into the Melee debug menus, Ice Climbers are referred to as "Poponana". So it's not unprecedented.
I've said it earlier in the thread, and I'll it again, even though I'll just get flamed for it. There is technically one other possibility. Many rumors claim that there were characters present in the Melee beta that got removed in the final build due to time restraints preventing the developers from finishing the characters (Balloon Fighter used to get this a lot). If these rumors are true, and one of those characters appears in Brawl, it's possible that the creator of the list might have considered them to be a Melee character, thus qualifying them for the 13th slot.
I can't tell you how glad I am to see this already debunked before I got here.
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From my own analysis, all I see is that they're grouped out to "Smash Brothers", "Smash Brothers 64", "Smash Brothers Melee" and "Smash Brothers Brawl" thus far, and that's a pattern that definitely hasn't been broken yet.
Well. I honestly neither know, nor care. I don't follow this closely, it just seems plausible enough to me. The one thing we seem to agree on for sure is that G&W will return, and if that happens, and he's in the same spot that was predicted for him, that makes this thread worthwhile enough.
But... that's... not right? Numerically? Isn't DK 2?I could never understand Japanese, so I basically sorted the logos out in the order that seemed correct.
Yes, but again, I can't understand Japanese, and I was never too happy with the actual logo order.
You're talking like we could have twisted any random list into an alphabetical one if we tried hard enough. That's not true. Any given character on the list has, at most, two different potential names (some, like Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong, and Yoshi only have one choice). Do you know how low the odds were against those names winding up in a viable alphabetical order by mere chance? If Donkey Kong had been ANYWHERE but number 2, alphabetizing the list would have been impossible. If Yoshi had been ANYWHERE but number 11 or 10 (accounting for the possibility of Zeruda no Densetsu), alphabetizing the list would have been impossible. If Animal Crossing had been ANYWHERE but 15, it would have been impossible. And so on and so forth.
So are you saying that the series aren't in any specific order and it's all just a coincidence. Earthbound, Ice Climbers, and Snake's spot were all correctly predicted, and sooner or later Game & Watch's will be too. How do you explain that? They're clearly in alphabetical order. Some of them are listed by their game's name, and some of them are listed by their main character's name. I don't know why, but that's the way it is.
Exactly! That's most likely what they're listed as on this list too.
my suspicions have been confirmed.
No. There IS a specific order. SSB64, then Melee, then Brawl. That's an order.
Because of the Inclusion Order Theory. (Here on referred to as IOC. Dibs on the trademark.) We had the first eleven spaces occupied by the Smash icon and nine of the original ten universes in SSB64, minus Mother. Number Seven HAD to be Mother because it was the only one of the original ten left. Go back to posts around July 2, when Goroh was revealed. Everyone knew that the seven spot had to be Mother.
