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Smash Back Room Weekly Character Discussions! FINAL UPDATES: Ness + Lucas. All done!!

BMX

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For those of you who don't know, the Smash Back Room is a private room that allows entry only to those in the community who have proven their skill in Smash over the years. The SBR is most notorious for the creation of the official tier lists every year that are still the subject of alot of debate. But the SBR is actually much more than just a room that creates tier lists. We discuss all sorts of things varying from items/smashballs, tournament legality of stages, what rules to use as the standard for the largest tournaments, and of course, which characters are the best.

In the SBR the most active thread was entitled "Brawl Tiers". Yes, we're discussing tiers already. Does that mean a tier list is coming out soon? Absolutely not. Wait a year before asking when it will come out. But having a single thread to discuss 35 characters seemed like a bit much, so a few people in the SBR had a great idea.

The SBR is going to run a bit of an experiment. We will create a new thread every week to discuss a single character. The order is simply whoever we feel like talking about that week (although its usually Overswarm picking what character we talk about every week). And to expand on the idea, we decided to include all of you out there too. Roughly every week we will move that thread into the respective character's board so you all can see our thoughts and continue our discussions for us. And every time we move a thread, this thread will be updated with a summary of our thoughts, as well as a link to the thread. Keep in mind that this is just an experiment for now, we have no idea how it will evolve if it continues down the line.

Please Note: This is NOT in any particular order, and especially not a tier list.


I want to remind everyone who is keeping up with these updates that acceptance into the Smash Back Room is invite-only, and we invite intelligent posters who can contribute to the community. Did you know that we have all subscribed to each individual character thread (not this one) and actively read them? Perhaps someone in the community who can contribute intelligently and actively to these threads will be considered...




Note that this thread is NOT used to discuss specific characters, please post your opinions and analysis of them into the threads linked below their names. The purpose for this thread is for discussion of this idea in general, as well as guesses for next week's character.


Update #1: Metaknight

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=159785



Update #2: Wolf

Thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162112



Update #3: Game & Watch

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4352268



Update #4: Snake

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=164582



Update #5: Diddy Kong

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165744



Update #6: R.O.B.

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167390



Update #7: Falco

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=168808



Update #8: Ganondorf!

Thread: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=170448


Update #9: ????

This character has a difficult learning curve as spacing is essential. This character can stop most campy characters from camping, spams all over slow characters, but is still too slow to do anything to a fast character. There is no doubt this underplayed character can become amazing in the future, but a few glaring weaknesses will probably prevent this character from ever reaching some of the higher tiers.

Can you guess who next week's character is?
I need to thank Kyari for half of this hint, as I took something Kyari posted and made it ambiguous ^_^
i believe its dedede
 

betterthanbonds9

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am i the only one who has the answer on page 51?

too bad, i really want to see a zelda thread from the SBR...

well, too bad, good job Link, now the triforce had a 2-hit combo and i doubt they'd do 3 straight zelda characters. Even without the hint im going to make the bold prediction of Peach as the next character.

what if i end up right?
 

adumbrodeus

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am i the only one who has the answer on page 51?

too bad, i really want to see a zelda thread from the SBR...

well, too bad, good job Link, now the triforce had a 2-hit combo and i doubt they'd do 3 straight zelda characters. Even without the hint im going to make the bold prediction of Peach as the next character.

what if i end up right?
Well, they could epically mindgame us and go 4 straight...
 

shrodekill

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gotta be olimar. his smashes arent terribly fast. (upsmash is good) he can camp slow characters and keep campy ones from camping, and he has one major weakness. recovery
 

itsthebigfoot

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I'll probably head to bed early tonight, so even though the summary will probably be done in a few hours, I won't be around to update it just yet. So I'll just tell you guys who it it was (for real this time :laugh:). And I need to make next week's hint harder, since waaay too many people got this one ^_^''

'Twas the holder of the Triforce of courage: Link.
highlight the black part, it's link
 

Adapt

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The SBR is lost without their Overlord... i mean Overswarm!


(not enough control, you must hatch more Overswarms)
 

clowsui

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lol Overswarm is back, whatchoo talkin bout
He's been back since like 2 days ago
Just give him time to write a summary, he was away in Ireland.
 

SamuraiPanda

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The SBR is getting a bit busier now with discussion on the new ruleset speeding up, so there will probably be a little delay for the next character. There is no new thread yet, so I cannot provide ya'll with a hint. The #9 thread is pretty much done already, but I'm waiting on LeeHarris to write the summary (the way it works is that the person who made the thread writes it).

Also, if you missed it when I mentioned it before, the #9 character was:
Link.



The SBR is lost without their Overlord... i mean Overswarm!


(not enough control, you must hatch more Overswarms)
I laughed.
 

SamuraiPanda

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So, I guess there wasn't a delay after all. Link has been updated, and the new hint is up.

As for this hint, well, I'm not a fan. I was between making it too easy or too hard, and I think I ended up making it too easy. But we'll see about that.

EDIT: Hm... I changed the hint, removing something and adding the last sentence. I think its a bit better, but I dunno.
 

Snail

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D3 is possiblel. Great recovery and it actually has a lot of lag so it's easy to punish if you don't get hit by it. And it fits with the quick reaction part because of his chaingrabs. And he has some trouble with spammy characters, too. I guess it's him then? o:
 
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