Social Smash 4 Social Topic 2.0

[Aurane]

That wouldn't make sense though.

Sakurai doesn't make sense. So in the end, it would make sense.

 

[Kenith]

I think, maybe we'll get one or two DLC characters, but not, like, a dozen of them or anything.

I do expect DLC music and alternate costumes, though.

 

[Deleted member]

Why would they do that? That's the most prominent form of DLC for a fighting game.

Protip: if a post of mine has sarcastic crossed out text that contradicts what I'm saying, has small text that does the same as the aforementioned, grayed out text that does the same as the aforementioned, features or , it is not to be taken seriously, and is most likely a joke.

I may hate having to pay to get access to all the essentials for a fighting game, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if they didn't do DLC characters. My stance on DLC characters is basically the developers saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoYWdHe4tQ4. Especially if I like the character. Then I get even more pissed that I have to pay extra for them. Like General Zod in Injustice.

Man it'd be great if my sig came true.

Indeed. A game with both EarthBound boys, Shulk, and Mewtwo playable would be a game to behold.

 

[FalKoopa]

I think the later emails have been brought into question, particularly the one with Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men.

The thing that makes me happy is that the list isn't the full list of newcomers, as was commonly assumed. It also has made me more confident about Lucas.

 

[Deleted member]

I think the later emails have been brought into question, particularly the one with Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men.

The thing that makes me happy is that the lost isn't the full list of newcomers, as was commonly assumed. It also has made me more confident about Lucas.

You mean to say you actually thought that vague comment meant something?

 

[Kenith]

I'm not sure what the remaining list of newcomers is now. I'm certain on Shulk and Ridley, but that's it.
I think a Zelda newcomer is actual very possible now. Between Impa with a cloned moveset from Sheik, or Ghirahim with a unique moveset, or someone else like Tetra.

 

[Moon Monkey]

My general impressions of yesterday's reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6JmrgiJoVg
TL; DW

 

[FalKoopa]

You mean to say you actually thought that vague comment meant something?

I didn't think that it outright disconfirmed him, but I felt that it did hurt his chances. Well, no more though.

 

[Deleted member]

Chrom fan reactions the Gematsu leak

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Can anyone guess what I'm gonna do tonight?

 

[Deleted member]

Can anyone guess what I'm gonna do tonight?

Look at Krystal rule 34?

*shot*

 

[DraginHikari]

I laughed harder then I probably should have.

Funny thing till the end it did look like how a dialgoue with Chrom would have with those two characters in his game about something like that, at least as close as a fan created image does. Or maybe I liked it it's just interesting to have a different fan variation of Chrom since yesterday other then sobbing on the ground or getting his face plastered onto Falcon Punch gifs .

 

[Pyra]

So... stop saying she's a costume.

This facebook group I was in kept calling her "Marth for casuals" and whining and moaning about her existence. What a bunch of babies.

So I left the group. I can't be associated with people like that. Bleh.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I always assumed Chrom was planned from the start, but was demoted somewhere during development due to complaints from the fans and the lack of versatility with the game designers. Hence why we've gotten Robin instead and Chrom only cameos as part of Robin's Final Smash.

As for Lucina, I don't know. Maybe at one point Robin's Final Smash was Chrom's instead with him and Lucina attacking together, and after the changes Lucina was scrapped for a while but was later revived as a clone character for padding and fanservice.

 

[DraginHikari]

I always assumed Chrom was planned from the start, but was demoted somewhere during development due to complaints from the fans and the lack of versatility with the game designers. Hence why we've gotten Robin instead and Chrom only cameos as part of Robin's Final Smash.

As for Lucina, I don't know. Maybe at one point Robin's Final Smash was Chrom's instead with him and Lucina attacking together, and after the changes Lucina was scrapped for a while but was later revived as a clone character for padding and fanservice.

Given how heated the Fire Emblem debates were even here this time around, I can't image the decision by the developers to chose which of the Fire Emblem Awakening Characters to go with was going to be particularly easy to do. Chrom, Lucina, and Robin all had pretty decent popularity within the fanbase. That may be why Lucina is the first clone newcomer we've had could of been a compromise they reached so they could include two of the three.

Considering Chrom has a model for the final smash that doesn't look graphically inferior like some of the assist trophies are does seem to support what your describing. It doesn't appear the Chrom was a complete afterthought.

 

[Shaya]

Protip: EASIER means BETTER hence FREE MONEY.

 

[praline]

I think, maybe we'll get one or two DLC characters, but not, like, a dozen of them or anything.

I do expect DLC music and alternate costumes, though.

I expect 3. 5 being the at most amount.

 

[Kenith]

I expect 3. 5 being the at most amount.

The two comes from the fact that MvC3 had two DLc characters (discounting UMvC3's characters)

Granted, they were already on the disc technically, but we weren't supposed to know that.

 

[Deleted member]

I always assumed Chrom was planned from the start, but was demoted somewhere during development due to complaints from the fans and the lack of versatility with the game designers. Hence why we've gotten Robin instead and Chrom only cameos as part of Robin's Final Smash.

As for Lucina, I don't know. Maybe at one point Robin's Final Smash was Chrom's instead with him and Lucina attacking together, and after the changes Lucina was scrapped for a while but was later revived as a clone character for padding and fanservice.

I felt the same way. Like maybe Chrom was planned, but then they replaced him with Robin, and Lucina was supposed to appear in Female Robin's final smash. However, due to popularity, and both characters having similar proportions, they promoted Lucina to playable. I get the feeling that if Lucina was planned from the beginning, she wouldn't be a clone. Not that I really care; because if either Marth or Lucina is closer to Roy, then he is sort of back. Just without ph1r3 and Jun Fukuyama.

 

[Pyra]

We'll get Bad Boxart Megaman as a DLC character.

 

[mimgrim]

This facebook group I was in kept calling her "Marth for casuals" and whining and moaning about her existence. What a bunch of babies.

So I left the group. I can't be associated with people like that. Bleh.

Lucina is a Marth for dummies basically, due to the lack of a tipper system.

Not that it's a bad thing.

 

[Kenith]

We'll get Bad Boxart Megaman as a DLC character.

No, actually we'll get DLC characters that are actually already on the disc.

#ShotsFiredAtCapcom

edit: Actually, Namco did that too, but Capcom did it first.

 

[Pyra]

Lucina is a Marth for dummies basically, due to the lack of a tipper system.

Not that it's a bad thing.

It really isn't.

I might prefer Lucina. Not because I'm bad at sweetspotting with Marth, but because since her blade tip is weaker but the rest of the blade is buffed as a result, I don't have to worry about spacing. It was a reason I didn't like playing Marth. Eh.

Not that I don't like sweetspots at all. Falcon's Knee makes me feel good about myself every time I sweetspot it.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Look at Krystal rule 34?

*shot*

Nope, here's a hint: the only thing Nintendo has to do with it is this.

 

[praline]

The two comes from the fact that MvC3 had two DLc characters (discounting UMvC3's characters)

Granted, they were already on the disc technically, but we weren't supposed to know that.

I hope that if we only get 2 that one of them is Snake.

 

[Deleted member]

We'll get Bad Boxart Megaman as a DLC character.

Please. He was so sad at finding out he wasn't part of Mega Man's Final Smash.

Spoiler: Large Image

Him being left out can mean only one thing; Bad Box Art Mega Man is playable. It is his destiny!

 

[Kenith]

I hope that if we only get 2 that one of them is Snake.

I'm still thinking that Snake is in the game, just hidden.
It would be a cool nod to his origin series.

 

[Pyra]

My general impressions of yesterday's reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6JmrgiJoVg
TL; DW

Am I doing it right?

 

[Deleted member]

No.

This is doing it right. Thank you SSB4 Caption Thread.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

I may hate having to pay to get access to all the essentials for a fighting game, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if they didn't do DLC characters. My stance on DLC characters is basically the developers saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoYWdHe4tQ4. Especially if I like the character. Then I get even more pissed that I have to pay extra for them. Like General Zod in Injustice.

Are you saying the company desiring money is a bad thing? This is the same issue people have with Capcom (despite them doing some pretty stupid stuff, yes). "Capcom is bad because they want money" is basically what I hear all the time. The on-disc content complaints flooded chatrooms constantly and I got tired of it.

This logic goes for every single company that does make DLC for their games that is paid, which is a VERY high percent of them. And we're just now saying that companies charging you for things that -are- extra, things that were not ever slated to be included with the original content you bought, is bad.

Honestly that's just another sign of gamers feeling like they're entitled to things. Yes, I don't like paying for DLC left and right on things, but no, I'm not going to be upset with a company for doing it. I'll just not buy it unless it's something I want.

That goes for every single thing you buy in life.

 

[dezeray112]

As for whether Smash get DLC content eg characters, personally I don't exactly mind having them.

 

[Pyra]

As long as the DLC is free I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

Can one of the DLC items be a mercedes benz car

 

[Deleted member]

Are you saying the company desiring money is a bad thing?

No. I guess it really does depend on what they do regarding DLC. If they balance it out and offer some things for free, but charge for others, I'll be fine with it. I just dislike charging for characters in general. They are essential for a fighting game. If a new character is introduced, it can drastically alter matchups and what not. You have to pay for the character, even if you don't want them, just to know how to fight against them. I shouldn't have to pay in order to learn a matchup. That is what I dislike. Charging for costumes and stages and crud; I'm completely okay with. They don't affect how the game is played at it's core, and are neat little additions if you want to buy them.

Can one of the DLC items be a mercedes benz car

Please. It can function like a better version of the Bullet Bill.

 

[Substitution]

Weird Al finally released his new album. I'm excited to say the least.

Can one of the DLC items be a mercedes benz car

Only if I get my clown car.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I wouldn't mind DLC, the only way I'd expect the slightest chance of what I confessed to giving up on yesterday, but even then I won't be too heart struck if it doesn't happen. As far as DLC goes, I think it's gonna be Pichu, Toon Zelda, Luna Lovegood, Krystal if she don't make it into the legit roster, and Roy. The rest will be speculated later.

 

[Deleted member]

I doubt Roy will be DLC at this point. We have Lucina, and Marth is apparently slower and worse in the air overall. I'd love for him to be playable, but at this point, I just want him to be a trophy. Why wasn't he one in Brawl?

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I doubt Roy will be DLC at this point. We have Lucina, and Marth is apparently slower and worse in the air overall. I'd love for him to be playable, but at this point, I just want him to be a trophy. Why wasn't he one in Brawl?

All I know is that he was planned for Brawl, but then Sonic outran him and 6 other guys for the last spot when SEGA finally gave Sakurai permission to use Sonic. I know Mewtwo was a trophy, but Roy continues to elude me

 

[dezeray112]

If they do DLC characters, I would like it to be a mixture of characters that were unfinished and characters from newer Nintendo franchises.

 

[Deleted member]

Heck, even Pichu got a trophy. Why didn't Roy get one? Was adding ph1r3 to the trophy model too hard?

 

[Substitution]

Heck, even Pichu got a trophy. Why didn't Roy get one? Was adding ph1r3 to the trophy model too hard?

It's because at the time he was not blue-haired. So he was not as special.
This time around we were able to fight for equal rights for all hair colors. So he might have a chance.