Simple facts that you may not know...

[yani]

Mario> Luigi

 

[M!nt]

banjo kazooie > conker

 

[SSBPete]

conker > smash64

 

[Ninja in Overalls]

smash64>cheetahmen

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

cheetahmen > brawl

 

[asianaussie]

brawl > bell peppers

**** bell peppers

 

[Ninja in Overalls]

bell peppers > herd of elephants having seizures in your bathroom

****ing hate it when that happens

 

[asianaussie]

i would contest that strongly

 

[Ninja in Overalls]

that would require a godly lawyer

 

[Peek~]

Reported > Not reported

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[Ninja in Overalls]

reported >bell peppers

 

[ArcNatural]

Re-opened.

 

[Luco]

If ness is in the middle of jumping, and uses PK fire, but before he actually shoots the bolt out, you happen to hit the ground, the move doesn't cancel, but instead corrects itself and just goes straight along the ground.

 

[Musketeer04]

With Falcon, if you second jump and immediately upb by a ledge, you will cancel the upb by grabbing the ledge (like Ness' upb ledge cancel). Too hard to perform to be usefull though.

Yoshi can jump OoS .

You can turn around Dreamland with pika, no matter what direction (you can start left or right).

Cool thread idea btw.

Oh also, this one I heard from superboomfan: DK's dash attack clanks with Kirby's utilt and give him a frame advantage over Kirby.

What do you mean by turning Dreamland around?

 

[asianaussie]

He means you can go all the way *under* Dreamland from one edge to the other.

 

[Ninja in Overalls]

can't see how this ^^^ would ever be of any use though

 

[asianaussie]

last i checked, things written in this thread don't need to be useful

 

[Sangoku]

What aa said.

And I once got a kill with it. The other thought I was suiciding and he did the same. I survived and he didn't.

 

[Ninja in Overalls]

taking advantage of someones good intentions wouldn't be a kill I'd be proud of

 

[asianaussie]

i doubt anyone would suicide in a match that mattered unless the match had been declared null and void

if samus fires her full charge shot but is grabbed before the plasma ball comes out, she will retain the flashing arm cannon until thrown (and then she loses it, of course)

 

[B Link]

You can reflect yoshi's down b.

 

[yani]

Is it true that the Pokemon are technically 3rd party in this game?

 

[M!nt]

What do you mean? Game Freak is a Nintendo exclusive developer sooo

 

[Zantetsu]

Well technically, Game Freak is a second-party developer, so I guess Pokemon aren't 1st party, but they aren't 3rd party either.

 

[Sempiternity]

What the hell is a second party developer???

 

[asianaussie]

a group that develops exclusively for a company despite not being tied to that company by brand

A subsidary.

according to wikipedia, at least

 

[Zantetsu]

Yeah, I got my information from Wikipedia. I remember seeing 2nd party developers mentioned as I was looking up 3rd party developers ages ago and I remembered seeing Gamefreak listed under 2nd, so that's what jogged my memory.

 

[Sempiternity]

hah, that's the joke :b

A video game development party can be one of two parties: a first-party or third-party developer.

 

[yani]

I recall someone claiming that at that time, Game Freak was still third party. Not sure if true though.

 

[ballin4life]

it doesn't matter whether game freak in particular was third party, it matters who owned the trademarks etc on Pokemon. According to a quick wikipedia check Nintendo owned the rights to Pokemon from the beginning (even if they contracted out the development of the games to Game Freak)

 

[Toomai]

If you fire a second projectile before the first one hits, both projectiles will have the same staleness value.

 

[clubbadubba]

^^ related to that, i was wondering, when is the staleness of non-projectile moves determined--when the windup starts or when it hits or what. So like say mario threw a fireball, and then before the fireball hit started to do a fully stale fsmash. Between starting the fsmash and hitting with it, the fireball hits the opponent. Is the fsmash one level less stale, or is it still fully stale because the move started before the fireball actually hit.

 

[asianaussie]

i would hedge that move staleness (of any move) only changes or is reset when a move lands

 

[NTA]

"DK's taunt allows him to sidestep certain projectiles"

When was this :o

 

[The Star King]

technically you can jab-cancel grab with any character, it's just that Pika/Ness/Mario/Luigi are the only ones to get a hitbox out in time

maybe people knew this but I was too DUM to realize this

 

[asianaussie]

i didn't know, but to be honest i didn't care either

concerning 'out in time'

what's the factor limiting the time? the end of the jab animation's supposed duration?

 

[The Star King]

uh probably just you can only cancel a jab with a grab in a certain number of frames after start-up

Just checked antdgar's frame data and Pikachu/Ness/Mario/Luigi all have a hitbox out in 1 frame so I guess you have to cancel it in 1 frame + hitlag frames if you hit. But wait that can't be right because I can see at least 2 distinct frames in which it can be canceled (training mode 1/4 speed) so I think antdgar's chart LIES and it's actually 2. Someone TAS this.

 

[clubbadubba]

when a character is lying stunned on the ground, he takes less damage from attacks than normal. Found this out the other day in training mode, and no it wasn't stale moves, I checked.

 

[The Star King]

Half damage (rounded up) to be precise

 

[asianaussie]

that information is in my gamefaqs guide lol

step it up clubba