Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[KirbyKaze]

I felt this needed to be addressed again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntkoUSScfRc

 

[Brookman]

This is my reaction to the very first clip.

A. Falco is obviously BK_McRoyal_Randy55
2. Drephen blows an easy edge hog
4. BK_McRoyal_Randy55 makes it back on the stage.

Guess we'll go with "old video" johns.









;D


P.s. Who the **** gets away with jabbing like that anymore?


P.p.s. whole video is same falco??

 

[Twin_A]

I felt this needed to be addressed again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntkoUSScfRc

thats 4 minutes of my life I'm never getting back. thanks a lot >.>

haha

 

[soap]

Gina G is amazing, don't front

 

[Brookman]

I suck at the Marth Match-up (PAL)
Somebody give me some advice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOOJoPksEZ0

Hey uh. . .my advice. Stop running around like a chicken without its head.

 

[Twin_A]

Gina G is amazing, don't front

No Gina G is phenomenal. Don't down size

Hey uh. . .my advice. Stop running around like a chicken without its head.

From what i could tell in the first match, you tended to dash attack a lot. try mixing up your approaches.

As well I like to space back airs when in a battle of stage control with marths.

Practice short hopping and turning around with needle charging so that you can grab the edge against them quicker. And dropping off and bairing them works well if done correctly (ie avoid being hit by them too).

Against marths that try dash dancing just out of my range I tend to throw needles and kill their momentum. As well SH needle > Grab works against the marths I play. maybe it will work for you.

Hope it helped a little. now if you'll excuse me I have to continue running around trying to find my head

 

[Tero.]

Thanks Twin.
Brookman: I'll try.

Here's another set (in which I'll get ***** hard; kJaB is too good).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ozYE6zSLwg

I've got one more (grand finals from the same tournament), but it's not on youtube yet.

 

[Devil Ray]

yo amsah, this match was hottttt~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uDc1Xj_fyc

good stuff. your spacies game has gotten better.

 

[Nihonjin]

^Ty..:embarrass

 

[soap]

always so modest

 

[Teba]

When Sheik recovers, does Fair helps? Because I see so many matches where Sheik recovers with fair?

 

[Vincent46]

When Sheik recovers, does Fair helps? Because I see so many matches where Sheik recovers with fair?

Not at all, there's no real reason to do it.

 

[Nihonjin]

You're not doing anything else, so might as well fair. It's the same as running around jumping and wavedashing when someone just died.

 

[Teba]

Ok, thanks.

 

[soap]

You're not doing anything else, so might as well fair. It's the same as running around jumping and wavedashing when someone just died.

I feel like it does make a difference, even tho they say it doesn't.

LIke I am slicing thru the air and reducing wind resistance

 

[Teczer0]

If anything it looks like she's pushing away from herself.

So it would makes it seem like you'd go backwards.

=3

 

[Moooose]

shut the **** UP hailey
<3

 

[Teczer0]

LMAO I thought we were homies Mark.

T_T

 

[soap]

If anything it looks like she's pushing away from herself.

So it would makes it seem like you'd go backwards.

=3

lol. she's not in space. or is she?

 

[Lawrencelot]

Some attacks give you momentum (play mewtwo and you'll see), to me it looks like fairing with sheik adds some distance too but i don't know if it's true

 

[Teczer0]

Some attacks give you momentum (play mewtwo and you'll see), to me it looks like fairing with sheik adds some distance too but i don't know if it's true

Magus made a gif on showing that fair does NOT add any momentum whatsoever.

Forget where though.

 

[WHA?]

ive seen a vid showin it makes a differenace, but ive seen another saying theres no difference....... so what the hell
maybe the placebo effect takes place????

also
teczero:
wth is in ur sig
link me to the original place u got that (a vid)
can u buy one? how much

if ur selling them, hand one over

 

[Twin_A]

I remember seeing the vid saying that it does make a difference.

However I think you're right Wha, it may be an illusory correlation or placebo effect.

 

[Teczer0]

ive seen a vid showin it makes a differenace, but ive seen another saying theres no difference....... so what the hell
maybe the placebo effect takes place????

also
teczero:
wth is in ur sig
link me to the original place u got that (a vid)
can u buy one? how much

if ur selling them, hand one over

My sig is a piggy bank pretty much.

I dunno where to get it (Friend sent me the gif)

But I heard its about 20?

 

[Twin_A]

Haha I just now stopped to look at your sig. All this time I thought it was a thing of orange juice or something.

 

[DJRome]

so i have continued to lose to peaches in the past 2 months. halp

sometimes i can do well, but it seems that i get stuck a lot in the stage control vs float.

 

[Tero.]

Doing Fair while recovering does NOT give you momentum or make any difference at all, period.

 

[Nihonjin]

It doesn't do a thing.

 

[Requiem]

The video people talked about is probably this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpNiClgJcjM#t=2m29s

That's all I got on it.

 

[Tero.]

The video people talked about is probably this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpNiClgJcjM#t=2m29s

That's all I got on it.

21% is without Fair
23% is with Fair

credit to Magus.
Could we stop this discussion now?

 

[Twin_A]

so i have continued to lose to peaches in the past 2 months. halp

sometimes i can do well, but it seems that i get stuck a lot in the stage control vs float.

Just don't try to grab her out of her aerials and space back airs. -> beginners guide to peach

 

[Requiem]

21% is without Fair
23% is with Fair

credit to Magus.
Could we stop this discussion now?

Not trying to discuss it, just providing the video people were speaking of. ^^;

 

[WHA?]

My sig is a piggy bank pretty much.

I dunno where to get it (Friend sent me the gif)

But I heard its about 20?

itazura cat piggy bank

fuuuuuuuuuu its $35 + S&H

its small too...... but its the perfect gift for my girl!!!!!
yes im a cheap ***, so anyone know where i can get one for less?
anyone from japan on here???



and regarding the fair, just do it, if u beleive hard enough u just might make it

 

[DtJ Jungle]

welp now tha ti know its name i have to have one.

 

[WHA?]

welp now tha ti know its name i have to have one.

buzz off i got dibs

 

[Twin_A]

Guys, guys, guys....

SHOTGUN!

There now I get it. We in the wide world of smash are very strict when it comes to the rules of "Shotgun" and "Not it".

But don't fret yet my friends, I will gladly sit idley by while you two fight over the next must have commodity.

No need to thank me, I'm just that nice of a person

 

[WHA?]

1,2, 3 no take backs



ok serious question:

i havent seen many ppl run up -> crouch (to cancel run) -> f-tilt/u-tilt
ive seen it done with d-tilt
and i can do it perfectly with all tilts
so me question is if its THAT good

its pretty easy to space and ppl dont expect it, and i think its a good thing to mix up with run -> backwards empty jump

 

[Twin_A]

My personal experience is that if I do the run up crouch and f-tilt more than a few times against someone then they'll punish me for it. D tilt if spaced properly is less likely to get punished if spaced well and is a great set up. And to get close enough to up tilt would be hard without getting hit first (unless they're in their sheild, in which case just grab).

No expert but just my personal observation.

plus the d-tilt is easier

 

[KirbyKaze]

Twin I want to sleep with you.

I'll experiment with dash cancel F-tilt. Usually I walk into it, or WD into it, but I guess this is just another range I can do F-tilt from so it can't be all that bad.

 

[THE RED SPARROW]

How do you handle DI/Down Smashing Peach players that spot dodge and down smash at random intervals?

Aerials lose to CC down smash and WD OoS usually gets me grabbed or down smash shield stabbed. It sucks when you do your grab and it animation phases right through them as they down smash.