Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[DtJ Jungle]

i like to press alot of buttons

im playing the wrong character arent i

 

[ETWIST51294]

STOP CHANGlNG YOUR NAME JUNGLEFEVER!!!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

YOU IDIOT KNOW THEYLL FIND M-


*dies*

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

i might be too fond of dair but it fosters l-cancels so i cant hate it too much
hmm lots of buttons.... link!

i <3333 my ylink

 

[ETWIST51294]

I no!!!

I killed Junglefever. At least theres one less sheik lol.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

IT'S A TRAP

Nicaboy, come to Clearwater.

Smooth Criminal

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

etwist u need us sheiks so u dont have to deal with marth..... wait thats foxes argument... hrmm

 

[DtJ Jungle]

lol falcon mains

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

falcon is so manly and hot to watch tho.... we love u falcons... we just like beat u guys too

 

[Luma]

most technial stuff: double shino stall (in teams)

is that **** even counterable?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

thats not very technical... it just takes a decent partner

 

[KirbyKaze]

The poofstall has like 10 frames for error ._.

It's not technical, or hard, at all.

Its input isn't even that difficult or fast. Nor does it take precision or a skilled timing.

 

[nicaboy]

IT'S A TRAP

Nicaboy, come to Clearwater.

Smooth Criminal

where the hell is that? Come down to fiu this weekend. Im gonna beat hungrybox. Wait never mind even i know when im beat despite my cocky attitude. How you been bro?
Kk thanks for that samus info awhile back. I finaly beat esam. Such a dumb character. @ junglefever ya at higher % you can grab fox and falco about one or two more times but its dumb. You can just kill them at that point.

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

my biggest self john is i dont have enough matchup variation.... i play everything high tier and above (except the icies, but i think im ok with that), but nothing really below that... oh wait and ganon im from the south we have lots of those here

 

[KirbyKaze]

my biggest self john is i dont have enough matchup variation.... i play everything high tier and above (except the icies, but i think im ok with that), but nothing really below that... oh wait and ganon im from the south we have lots of those here

You play all the high tiers, all the top tiers, and Ganon. You say you're fine versus Ice Climbers, too.

Who else would you realistically need to know how to fight in tournament...? That's the whole point of playing Sheik. The dumb characters suck extra hard against you so you don't need to know what to do against them.

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

still nice to know tho. also my icy experience isnt too hot, but they are rare and i have a peach so its ok

 

[Drephen]

after playin trail a ton ive goten pretty good at the IC matchup

step your game up kirbykaze

 

[KirbyKaze]

I live in Canada >__>

What ICs am I going to play against to improve in the matchup...?

 

[ChivalRuse]

Why do I only see Chu dthrow dsmash cg'ing Sheiks? It's soo good.

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

as long as drephen is in here... drephen do u have any recommendations for sinking a grab when u need one?

 

[SonuvaBeach]

after playin trail a ton ive goten pretty good at the IC matchup

step your game up kirbykaze

Trail needs to step up his peach game! When KK picked peach it shoulda been done, son.

I needs more trail practice. IC's are BS!

I live in Canada >__>

What ICs am I going to play against to improve in the matchup...?

Come to MI. ha.

Why do I only see Chu dthrow dsmash cg'ing Sheiks? It's soo good.

IC's 0-death CG sheik regardless of the method.

Is there anyway to escape?!

 

[TLMSheikant]

The poofstall has like 10 frames for error ._.

It's not technical, or hard, at all.

Its input isn't even that difficult or fast. Nor does it take precision or a skilled timing.

Funny...I can waveshine and SHDL with fox and cant poofstall . FML lol. But seriously I suck at poofstall. If only I had a way to play melee by myself again I would practice it till I get it down. But I dont, my wii's lens arent working so now my only way to practice ATs is in smashfests. (Not tourneys, tourneys arent practice its where u put the practice to use obviously)

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

strange question but.. counterpick and ban vs luigi? i figure ban fd and cp fod

 

[KirbyKaze]

I like Battlefield and Yoshi against Luigi.

 

[pockyD]

i typically ban dreamland

i really have no idea whether that's better or worse though

luigi is really dumb

 

[Teczer0]

Poof Stall is all about knowing when to let go of the control stick. Once you understand it its extremely simple, you could probably do it perfectly afterwards.

I usually pick FD against luigi because it makes full use of needles.

But in general I'd think to pick a big stage against luigi. It would make it so you can space yourself more than one WD length away and makes it easier to use needles.

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

hmmm interesting...
also i can never pick what to cp against peach. always just seems like what im feeling atm

 

[TLMSheikant]

I hate Luigi. Everytime I gimp him with needles I feel sooo good inside.

 

[soap]

after playin trail a ton ive goten pretty good at the IC matchup

step your game up kirbykaze

lol, whens the last time you beat trail in tourney?

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

yea i REALLY hate wegee.... i just dont like how he works

 

[SonuvaBeach]

Don't know what to CP against peach?
Ban peachland.
CP Yoshi's or BF or FoD. Wherever your most comfy

lol, whens the last time you beat trail in tourney?

Trail is quite a chokeartist. Lovage and Drew got lucky!

 

[Devil Ray]

Trail is quite a chokeartist. Lovage and Drew got lucky!

seriously. trail is a beast, but he chokes hard.

 

[nicaboy]

Um im different. Vs luigi i rather fight on small stages with small sides and cellings like ys bf or rainbows cruise. I don't like him utilizing his recovery although needles help. I like quick deaths. Vs peach well sheik can perform well vs her on all neutral stages. On bigger stages its easier to camp her but harder to kill her. Vice versa on small stages. Although i always ban dreamland but then they go to kongo jungle any way in my experience.

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

yea i know to ban dreamland cuz thats just painful. how bout corneria as a counterpick? i find its greatttt as long as u have the advantage but engine camping peaches are pains


edit: much rather ban dreamlands then kongo

 

[Kill The Beast]

i have a RB tomorrow and think i many mm a mario which im quite confident about but just wanted to know if there are any gimps or key things to do and avoid. thanks

ps: i play pal

 

[ChivalRuse]

Needles are really good against Mario.

Boss claims that Mario can jump out of Sheik's dthrow -> ftilt but I'm not sure I'm a believer.

Well, I know at medium percents dthrow -> fair wrecks Mario.

 

[pockyD]

dthrow doesn't really work in pal

use bair a lot

DI well, since mario doesn't KO well at all

 

[Devil Ray]

a few points:

-puff ****** sheik is a myth. hbox is just good at it. i tried doing it from both sides, it's not bad for either char.
-fox is sheik's worst matchup. but then again, i think fox is EVERY char's worst MU.
-brother amsah was wrong: full metal alchemist-brotherhood sucks!!! that shiet is like a watered down version of the first series! it's abridged, sped up, and still missing stuff from the manga. amsah, you lied to us.

 

[DJRome]

sheik gets ***** by puff. i don't know where you get that it is a myth. your support is that you played both sides of the matchup lol

 

[Devil Ray]

i guess when you put it that way..... :-P

but still, i'm not saying it's **** for either char...i don't think it's bad for either one really. if puff is some kind of major threat to sheik.....that's not so bad. a lot of other chars have it a lot worse