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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA
- Thread starter KirbyKaze
- Start date
Cia
das kwl
It's the getting hit part that's such a problem for me. After one ****ing grab, i take 50% if not death. I need to find ways to kill his approach aside from Ftilt. They always seem to find a way around it.
true, well sometimes theres nothing u can do about that except give them less opportunities to grab you. also be tricky with ur recovery.
watch me vs hax vids from shell shocked or something, theres a lot i always forget to explain T.T
watch me vs hax vids from shell shocked or something, theres a lot i always forget to explain T.T
DJRome
Smash Hero
i think it's large stages like dl64, dk64, fd, etc where i have a problem getting the grab. they dd camp when i try to needle, and without a grab, i can't do anything. they just jump to avoid needles or take the damage. then as i try to camp them, they come in for a grab or aerial into grab. sheik has no horizontal movement in the air so it's really hard to avoid the aerials fast enough.
example, i lost to 2 falcons this week in tourney. even with efficient tope chasing, i could not get away from their combos. on small stages, i die easily but at least i can get the grabs.
example, i lost to 2 falcons this week in tourney. even with efficient tope chasing, i could not get away from their combos. on small stages, i die easily but at least i can get the grabs.
Going to the falco boards would be a good tactic.
ok sorry i'll help you
first of all don't laser, as sheik can duck and wavedash under it, also when she dsmashes you, predict it with CC into a shine.
When you're recovering it's always best to drop low and try to come up and sweetspot.
first and foremost, di the ftilt IN, as sheiks will predict the di away and jump and miss it
ok sorry i'll help you
first of all don't laser, as sheik can duck and wavedash under it, also when she dsmashes you, predict it with CC into a shine.
When you're recovering it's always best to drop low and try to come up and sweetspot.
first and foremost, di the ftilt IN, as sheiks will predict the di away and jump and miss it
Stratford
Smash Champion
Jungle I thought we already tried **** like that in Revolution. I forget how that worked out for us. Went well I think?
It worked well i think
oh i remember, don't dair, she can cc it into a grab.
oh i remember, don't dair, she can cc it into a grab.
no when sheik ftilts you.
DJRome
Smash Hero
lol, just dair past sheik falco should laser from far away, up close, falcos can grab very easily force sheik into shield and **** her up. as long as you get the combos from shine, you can simply focus on getting grabs/shine and the auto combo comes to you.
shine doesn't combo sheik
only fox combos sheik.
only fox combos sheik.
DJRome
Smash Hero
yeah, okay lol either you take the shine pillar combo or di away and get edgeguarded don get shined basically
Cia
das kwl
I love when spacies do that against me. I just keep Ftilting them. my record is 6.Going to the falco boards would be a good tactic.
ok sorry i'll help you
first of all don't laser, as sheik can duck and wavedash under it, also when she dsmashes you, predict it with CC into a shine.
When you're recovering it's always best to drop low and try to come up and sweetspot.
first and foremost, di the ftilt IN, as sheiks will predict the di away and jump and miss it
Plairnkk - I've seen that set. really entertaining.. but I can't really tell the difference bet. what I'm doing, and what you're doing. I just know that I get grabbed, and die -_-
I'm probably going to try extreme camping. like.. never ever approaching. I went over to the falcon boards and all i saw was a thousand variations of ways to ***** about how bad falcon is. the latest being "Pikachu counters CF"
D:
Yeah **** that board Vanz
Just make CF come to you.
The people that come to this board sometimes...it amazes me.
Just make CF come to you.
The people that come to this board sometimes...it amazes me.
DJRome
Smash Hero
lol so true. cf's john about every character but it's known that a good falcon can **** up any char in the game including all the top tiers
CF is easysauce.
This is a 100% totally serious post.
Just like all my other ones.
This is a 100% totally serious post.
Just like all my other ones.
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
Hey Im sure you know a shiitton more than i do about this BUT I find that just needling them a lot (when theyre dash dancing like a stupid...uh dashdancer) does the trick and then Nair when they get close. and nair to break aerials as well. I play against a reallllly good falcon about everyday. i know how it goes. one grab and its OVERRRRRRRRR..... well not really but almost.
Yeah he plays a few good falcons once in a while too.
Cia
das kwl
this makes soo much sense. But i never think to this because i always panic shield/sidestep against CF. Thanks alot tho. I'm going to try and work on that.
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
Im quite aware. I was just giving some advice on how to stop CFs advances.
nair trades with almost eVERYTHING i think other than dair. sidestep vs cf aerials are kinda :/
vanz i think storing the needles might be good enough anyway.
whats a nairathon.
vanz i think storing the needles might be good enough anyway.
whats a nairathon.
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
Thats what i just said??? A nairathon is a technique i use with Link lolz. just a lot of shffled nairs lol
it really isn't what you just said. I was expounding on the nair idea, which is good. While I think storing needles is good enough to bait CF to at least jump off the ground and ontl platforms forcing him to move, that you dont have to throw them because CF covers so much space that you can get punished if you miss and utilize platforms.
DJRome
Smash Hero
but falcons can just bait the nair and then grab you when you keep doing that. . .
No
you definitely should 1)always approach falcon and 2) always nair and fair.
it works they get confused.
you definitely should 1)always approach falcon and 2) always nair and fair.
it works they get confused.
DJRome
Smash Hero
does anyone know if cf can rush in during the ftilt and punish with grab during the lag?
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
fair can get beat too easily in my opinion. the knee will go thru it. Nair is better.
And i throw needles all the time and dont get punished. just short hop and cancel them and jump again if he gets too close. then he has run past you so you can bair him or something. needle cancelling against falcons is ****.
i find fsmash works really well. dont expect it
Nostra****indamus.
Plank tell these kids about the awesomness of fsmash.
Plank tell these kids about the awesomness of fsmash.
DJRome
Smash Hero
i wish he would tell me something. . .
and waht would tha tbe?
DJRome
Smash Hero
how to beat falcons. . . lol
srs q tho. when grabbed by cf, what are the options from his fthrow, uthrow, and dthrow at various percents? i seem to get chain throw a few times. is that guaranteed or should i nair out of it/spot dodge/jump out?
srs q tho. when grabbed by cf, what are the options from his fthrow, uthrow, and dthrow at various percents? i seem to get chain throw a few times. is that guaranteed or should i nair out of it/spot dodge/jump out?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Guys apparently Peach is a better character than us according to the latest opinion in the Tier List Thread.
Cia
das kwl
^ is it a PAL tier list?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
No in the Melee discussion tier list thread. Someone's saying that we're worse than Peach because of Armada.