Social SGD: The hedgehogs are back in town.

[Chis]

Must be an invisible room then, didn't know non DLs couldn't see it :/

 

[infomon]

well the staaaaaff shaaaaaack
is a little ol' place where
we can get-to-ge-theeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr

staff shack baaaabyyyyyyyyy

*throws a disco party*

 

[Xiivi]

No disco parties.

*adds to Social group rules*

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Oh wow he actually did it......
lol

 

[Isatis]

Bio...that avy is...epic.... o_0






I approve.

Darkspine Sonic ftw

 

[Tennet]

hey gaiz theres more of this

in this
http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=1222

 

[Chis]

Ads are not cool :/

 

[SOVAman]

in this
http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=1222

shame on you

 

[Jim Morrison]

hey gaiz theres more of this

in this
http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=1222

You are a bad person for posting this and should feel bad about yourself.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Hi Sonics.

SHAME ON YU TENNET!

Nu advertizing on teh boards >:O

 

[Kinzer]

LOL but it's for a cause, it's not like those ads where they try and sell you Nike's! D:

Also what about no disco parties?

Oh BTW if anybody cares/knows, I was the only one in my pool yesterday to take 1 game off of Tyrant (if anybody knows who teh @#$% he is), everybody else got pretty much 2-0'd. I should've beaten him but I got way too predictable with iSDR on YI.

Bad idea, next time I'm going FD on MK.

 

[Tennet]

Thank you Kinzer.

 

[Tenki]

Oh BTW if anybody cares/knows, I was the only one in my pool yesterday to take 1 game off of Tyrant (if anybody knows who teh @#$% he is), everybody else got pretty much 2-0'd. I should've beaten him but I got way too predictable with iSDR on YI.

Bad idea, next time I'm going FD on MK.

lol nice. did he go MK or Snake? Or both?

And yeah. I have issues with using iSDR too blandly too >_>;

FD really does seem to be one of the better choices for MK lol. Platforms help him too much X/

 

[Kinzer]

MK.

Though I did happen to get butt-***** by FOcus' Snake, if anybody knows him either.

His D-Throw tech-chases are way too good.

 

[TwinkleToes]

hey gaiz theres more of this

in this
http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=1222

Do not take the Steak's image in vain you heathen.

 

[Orange_Soda_Man]

And yeah. I have issues with using iSDR too blandly too >_>;

from videos I've mostly seen iSDR on YI when sonics jump backwards off the stage to do it. I don't know if you two are doing this, but imo that is a dead giveaway. Would charging SD near the edge [so you go back enough to stay on the ground during the hop] work better? Or is that what you guys are doing too

 

[Camalange]

*rave party?*

 

[ithrowthings]

*busts out glow sticks*

 

[Tenki]

from videos I've mostly seen iSDR on YI when sonics jump backwards off the stage to do it. I don't know if you two are doing this, but imo that is a dead giveaway. Would charging SD near the edge [so you go back enough to stay on the ground during the hop] work better? Or is that what you guys are doing too

lol really? freaks D;

it's so much easier to just charge SD near the edge lol.

Anyway the problem is how it's dealt with. People can camp the SDJ > aerial or SDJ > airdodge or landing if you go into spring. Spamming ISDR left and right doesn't really do anything if your opponent just shields it - turning around cancels it, jumping out cancels it... etc. And if they use a grounded move that doesn't have laser priority, they clang.

 

[Browny]

So I like to read all character boards' matchup threads and ive noticed something which people seem to forget about Sonic, and which makes him a decent character for it.

While Sonic has trouble KO'ing, people rarely consider how hard it is to actually KO him. Some people have noted about how difficult it can be, but they almost never take it into consideration in the matchup discussions. going through some my tournament and friendly videos, I noticed the average % I got KO'd at was 153.8 %...these videos are against the likes of wolf, ganon, dk and MK so not exactly low KO potential characters lol. Sonic's survivability is majorly underestimated. but is this quantifiable in matchup discussions? Its one thing to be a middleweight, but the actual difference in %'s when characters like mario and Sonic get KO'd seems to be massively different

 

[Tenki]

are you talking about just the % that you die at, or the way/issues the opponent has with setting up the kill move?

 

[Browny]

obviously the setting up of KO moves lol, Sonic is still only middleweight

It just seems to counter his weakness in scoring KO's to an extent. If I get a stock lead I often find myself able to rack up considerable damage before they KO me. This works in reverse too obviously, given his weakness in scoring KO's. Its just not the same as someone like mario, maybe sheik and PT who cant really abuse their ability to simply not die as much as Sonic can so the balance is shifted very much against their favour.

 

[Tenki]

I'd just like to announce that I'm going to find a legitimate use for HA

LOLWISHMELUCKS

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

You're a madman Tenki. A MADMAN!

 

[Kinzer]

You can already use it to stall your recovery and/or give you a slight boost.

God knows where else I would use it.

 

[Dragonbreath]

Any time I've used HA against Fox/Falco's overB, it's worked really good. You rise up over the attack and smack them in the back of the head (no follow-ups tho.).

Of course, I don't know any good Foxes/Falcos.

 

[aeghrur]

Tenki's so future, he's working on the impossible because he's already figured out all the possibles.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I'd just like to announce that I'm going to find a legitimate use for HA

LOLWISHMELUCKS

HA stalling is banned

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

...There is actually a kind of legitimate use for Homing Attack that I found a while ago. Chis knows about it I think

I'm not sure if it's completely legit but I've found it works pretty well. And yes, you have to guess what it is
Hint: Pirate Ship

 

[Jim Morrison]

...There is actually a kind of legitimate use for Homing Attack that I found a while ago. Chis knows about it I think

I'm not sure if it's completely legit but I've found it works pretty well. And yes, you have to guess what it is
Hint: Pirate Ship

I am 100% sure now, you are a ***got.
Just tell us, and also, it is stalling, which is not legitimate.

 

[Chis]

I don't think you can HA stall... I think Rick might know what I mean....

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

I am 100% sure now, you are a ***got.
Just tell us, and also, it is stalling, which is not legitimate.

Go to Pirate Ship and get someone in the water. Homing Attack's knockback is weak enough to stun them and push them back into the water when they're stuck their in swimming lag. When you hit them back into the water, they have the whole 'landing in the water lag'

If Homing Attack misses, you don't get the horrible ending lag, you just fall in the water. Your opponent will likely be either in the water or doing something else so it's not such a big deal if you miss

Again, I'm not sure if this is completely legit but I suggest people mayeb testing it out and giving it a try

 

[Camalange]

I'd just like to announce that I'm going to find a legitimate use for HA

LOLWISHMELUCKS

It beats ROB.

>_>

No lie. Try it. Makes the matchup so much easier, wish I used it sooner XD

***** Gyro charge, Lasers, and lolROBhitboxLOL

 

[Boxob.]

Tenki, I already found a use for HA.

You're dumb.

lol

 

[Camalange]

Boxob, none of your uses are good.

<3

Just use it against ROB, it's broken I say!

 

[JOE!]

Hey guys, been a while since Ive been here with gifts of A1 sauce....

figured Id go ahead and drop this off this time for hitting mid-tier...

anywho, just putting it out there that the boozers are discussing sonic now, if you'd want to chime in.

Grats on mid tier

 

[Camalange]

It's a little too slow, but much appreciated Joe ^_^

 

[Tenki]

I was playing wifi friendlies with BlazingKatakiri and I legitimately tried HA OoS. It was the most ******** idea ever.

None of them worked, but the funny part was that whenever I hit him legitimately with HA, it wasn't locked on (he'd airdodge from spring and no-lock HA would travel just the right way, or he'd roll and I happened to be facing that direction and hit him).

probably off-stage will be the most useful place to use it, but the opponent has to be in a position where they're not going to be fastfalling, and / or where attacking you would not be in their best interest.

What ROB moves would you use HA for? If he shields it he can U-air OOS and that hurts if you don't SDI lol.

also, using HA on-stage when you're between the edge and your opponent usually = your opponent gets sent off-stage.

 

[Camalange]

I use HA against ROB to punish the laser start up or when he's charging a gyro. It works cuz they always do both of those things

Also, HA if timed right can hit Nair and Bair before the hitbox comes out. ITS SO LULZY. Like, ROB did his Nair and it looked like it should've hit, then he just got lolHAlol'd.

Another lulzy moment was HA locked onto him, he spotdodged, but like...HA just lingered there and hit him after the dodge was over.

ROB is silly.

He's still gay and HA only makes the matchup slightly easier.

Slightly.

You still need to predict and punish really well. lol

 

[Darth Waffles]

^I lulz'ed.
Camalange's lulzy Homing attacks bounce off at a slight angle that utilt just barely doesn't get to in time... kind of like djb's HA loop of win. HaLow.

Look at me, posting in the sonic boards like a champ.