Social SGD: The hedgehogs are back in town.

[da K.I.D.]

awful idea, tons of dead time to get ***** on a counter attack

 

[Camalange]

I agree, Fair is much more reliable and safer.

Nair is only really a GTFO attack (like i've said before and I'm sure others), like a disruptor. As an approach it's god awful.

inb4camalangeisagtfomove

 

[TwinkleToes]

Pretty sure to use Sonic's nair as an approach you have to be fighting someone who is both blindfolded and has his controller unplugged. And even then I'd say it's a bit risky.

 

[Orange_Soda_Man]

C stick is good for retreating fairs and bairs though.

That's pretty much the only time I feel comfortable doing them. Are there other applications?

 

[Kinzer]

You can approach with Bairs, and do SHUairs. If you have tap jump on that's pretty great, if not it just makes them easier.

Have you ever tired Spinshotting over your opponents and use a Bair after? You probably had to use the C-Stick to use Bair and get behind them.

 

[da K.I.D.]

not really...

c sticking aerials is good for:
using an aerial while trying to float in the opposite direction
up airing without using your double jump.

csticking aerials, USED to be amazing for:
Dairing without fastfalling... Its the one thing I miss about melee

marth is one of the few characters that can beat wario because hes one of the few characters that can fight on par with him, and at the same time have really gay GR options on him. nair, fair, up smash, f smash, all tipper. of course according to the warios, everymatch shifts into their favor with air camping. Except for MK, Mk is the only character that can beat him even with the air camping

 

[Chis]

Off topic, but might as well get some different discussion going like other boards...

The boy is the father of the child.

Discuss//

 

[Kupo Rose]

Hasn't that been in the papers for a while ago? He's like what? 13 years old if I remember right and his gf is older than him. The "girlfriend" who apparently also slept with other guys too.

Talk about being desperate for a hole...
If this is too unnappropriate I'll take it off >.>

Edit: I did it for you

>_>

 

[Tenki]

FH rising Nair? discuss?

Falling N-air >>>>> rising N-air.

mainly because you generally hit the ground and end it lol.

Have you ever tired Spinshotting over your opponents and use a Bair after? You probably had to use the C-Stick to use Bair and get behind them.

When I started doing spinshot > B-airs, I actually used to do that manually.

However, one thing that annoys me about C-stick aerials is when you try to do U-air out of a (v) spindash jump - it tends to make you double jump instead >:[

 

[~TBS~]

Chis...why?

@Cam
Dang. i was gonna say that.

And wario can truly hhkj himself. please.

Tenki, i am mad at that also. Is there any way to uair out of a VSDJ? I always get a double jump to uair. And i play with tap jump off...i hate double jumpin SDJs...

 

[Orange_Soda_Man]

The Uair not working out of VSDJ thing doesn't sound right. Legit, sure. sigh.

I'm a fool. I've just since yesterday started applying DDPs to my matchplay. This should improve my game a ton, I hope. Vids in a few weeks maybe.

 

[Tenki]

Is there any way to uair out of a VSDJ? I always get a double jump to uair. And i play with tap jump off...i hate double jumpin SDJs...

I play TJ off too

but you can actually (v)SDJ by hitting up anyway, so you can do a U-air that way.

The problem is, I'm not usually committed to doing U-airs, so sometimes I do a VSDJ and then decide I wanna U-air so I C-stick, and it makes me double jump

I forgot if up also makes you double jump out of SDJ with tapjump off, but I doubt it.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Off topic, but might as well get some different discussion going like other boards...

The boy is the father of the child.

Discuss//

That kid is a pimp.

 

[Espy Rose]

Off topic, but might as well get some different discussion going like other boards...

The boy is the father of the child.

Discuss//

Old story is old.

Oh, and that kid is NOT the parent.

 

[Chis]

I know it's old, I saw it on the news when it happened. How is he not the parent lol

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Yeah how is he not the parent?

They did like 5 different tests and stuff on him and the baby.

 

[chaoechidna]

Wait, that kid is the biological father of that baby?? Wow, i thought it was adopted or was the girlfriend's from a previous boyfriend..

Xzibit lol.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Pretty sure she was just a *****. She slept with like 6 guys and tests said that kid wasn't the dad.

 

[ShadoFiend]

Wow at you guys talking so seriously about this little kid getting some.

 

[Kinzer]

The internet is serious business.

 

[Camalange]

Wow at you guys talking so seriously about this little kid getting some.

The internet is serious business.

This exchange made me lol

Not that I've never seen the joke, it was just so well placed xD

gg Kinzer

 

[TwinkleToes]

This thread is letting me down. Quit making throwbacks to old, lame jokes.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!

 

[Camalange]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

TERRY IS SO CLEVERS

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

 

[Kinzer]

Needs moar Sonic Unleashed face.

 

[Kupo Rose]

Nevermind this post. My mistake.

__________________________

So one of my subscriptions added a new video showing a bit more in-depth info of Sonic’s spinshot technique. All seemed fine and kudos to him for using the Blue Blur with the Wiimote and Nunchuk too.

At 7:13 of the video he showed Spinshot > HA, nothing unfamiliar there, but then after that he continued on and showed Spinshot > HA (REVERSED). Now if I remember right Tenki mentioned (I think in Kojin’s thread) that the only B specials that could be reversed were Spring and Sonic’s sideB. The Homing Attack and DownB CANNOT be reversed.

This guy (KyuTwo) managed to pull off a reversed HA out of a Spinshot in his video. Now I’m wondering if this can be used like what Chis said about a “reverse B momentum cancel” such as Zelda’s “Reverse Nayru's Momentum Cancelling”.

Thoughts?

(Best watch at 7:13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZXWmnwphyk&feature=channel_page

 

[Jim Morrison]

So one of my subscriptions added a new video showing a bit more in-depth info of Sonic’s spinshot technique. All seemed fine and kudos to him for using the Blue Blur with the Wiimote and Nunchuk too.

At 7:13 of the video he showed Spinshot > HA, nothing unfamiliar there, but then after that he continued on and showed Spinshot > HA (REVERSED). Now if I remember right Tenki mentioned (I think in Kojin’s thread) that the only B specials that could be reversed were Spring and Sonic’s sideB. The Homing Attack and DownB CANNOT be reversed.

This guy (KyuTwo) managed to pull off a reversed HA out of a Spinshot in his video. Now I’m wondering if this can be used like what Chis said about a “reverse B momentum cancel” such as Zelda’s “Reverse Nayru's Momentum Cancelling”.

Thoughts?

(Best watch at 7:13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZXWmnwphyk&feature=channel_page

That's called holding back and the pressing B, but you can't actually reverse it after you input it like with other moves.

 

[Kupo Rose]

Oh right should I just edit it out the post?

edit: Good point.

 

[Jim Morrison]

No, I already quoted you, so there's not much use to it.

 

[~TBS~]

Any tips on how to get better? kthxbai.

seriously, If you are aiming to be the best, dont you have to have a balance of Aggro Sonic with Defense Sonic? Or have killer mindgames? Or is it something else entirely?

EDIT: while reading a post from cammy he said to use down b instead of side B. so, use down b? arent they the same when it comes to momentum canceling?

 

[chaoechidna]

I think side b is worse cause you have the chance of killing yourself due to the mechanics of side b. Side b pulls you back a bit, quite a lot actually, and I've killed myself a bunch of times using side B as a momentum cancel when i was off the stage, when I could probably have made it back if I hadn't used it. If you're far enough off the stage where you get the feeling you might not make it back, don't use side b!!! But it's pretty awesome for throwing yourself forward, so when you're not that far off and you want to momentum cancel, I don't see why not as long as you release it before you go back too far and kill yourself.

 

[Kinzer]

Start by mastering every aspect of Sonic, you really do need to find a balance so that you can be good in every frame of the fight when you need it. It's great that you can camp to Armageddon, but it won't help when you absolutely can't camp and have to use something else but you fail at that because you've only been working on your camping.

At first you will suck hard because you're trying to pick up on everything, but I find this strategy to slowly but surely work in the long run.

Also Spin Charge > Spin Dash for momentum-canceling, somebody with a smash-wiki account go fix it on the Spindash article claiming how it's better when it isn't, because the last thing we need is more misconceptions.

 

[chaoechidna]

Spin dash = side B. Spin charge = down B. Just in case anyone doesn't know the names. Spin charge (down B) is better momentum cancel.

I wish I could change that on the wiki, i don't have an account either.. but i guess ill go make one.

On another note, is anyone else getting that Stride Gum Ad at the top of the sonic boards home page? It's slows down my load time for the page to about ganon pace. On a sonic page! Not cool.

 

[GwJ]

It's not just the sonic boards. That's just MLG's advertising.

 

[~TBS~]

well, thanks for the clear up Spin Charge>Spindash. I GOT IT! (lol @ Sonic 06 catch phrase)

Kinzer, that is true. It'll come eventually, but I'll get better. I got this, because if i dont, its gonna be like this.

AWW. YOU BEAT MEH. I NEED MOAR TRAININ.

Man, i hope that i can step this up. Higher/Top tiers are so annoying, with the camping and overpowered knockback. To me, Snake is still too slow. Its just the rest that makes U MAD. Is it true with that we have been saying around here? Matchup numbers are'nt accurate because its 100 times worse in real gameplay.

 

[KirbyandSonicrock14]

I wonder how hard is Sonic when you unlock him? I'm just playing Kirby and Ness at the moment. Also, what's up guys. Do you guys still remember me?

 

[Lawz.]

I wonder how hard is Sonic when you unlock him? I'm just playing Kirby and Ness at the moment. Also, what's up guys. Do you guys still remember me?

how could they forget you?

 

[GwJ]

We should get all of LoCal to post in here now.

 

[TwinkleToes]

Woah

Wait What?

Woah

Kasr Has Returned Mother ****ers. Kasr Has ****ing Returned.

 

[Lawz.]

We should get all of LoCal to post in here now.

it makes sense. LoCal brings the hype. no matter where, we bring it.