Sexist Sakurai - The fall of women in Brawl

[firedragon_jing]

You guys act as if Sakurai is the only one who made this game...

Ok, the whole team is sexist then >.>

or maybe it were the fans who requested characters back during the time of Melee, where Sakurai picked the characters from, that were sexist... actually looking back then we had a lot less female choices.

 

[Jellybelly]

My choices for a female smasher for next game

Krystal with staff

Dixie Kong (with helicopter hair recovery)

May AKA pokemon rival (Mudkip, Grovyle & Blaziken)

Dixie was VERY close to being in brawl.

Dixies trophy---

Diddy Kong's cutie of a girlfriend with an adorable blond ponytail. That ponytail is hardly for show-- it helps propel her through the air for extended hang time and is indispensable for spin-attacking enemies and lifting barrels. Watch out--Dixie packs more power than you might imagine!

I ammount this to pits trophy in melee, along with her hidden data Dixie probably would have been a cool diddy clone.

 

[Runeblade279]

That picture made me lol more than anything else in this thread.

 

[dooky]

Oh, females have much more of a visible presence in Brawl. Samus takes her clothes off, Peach shows her panties, and the once butch and androgynous Sheik now has a cleavage to rival that of Lara Croft. The only one of the girls to escape sluttification was Nana. Expect Zero Parka Nana for SSB4.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

My choices for a female smasher for next game

Krystal with staff

Dixie Kong (with helicopter hair recovery)

May AKA pokemon rival (Mudkip, Grovyle & Blaziken)

Dixie was VERY close to being in brawl.

Dixies trophy---

Diddy Kong's cutie of a girlfriend with an adorable blond ponytail. That ponytail is hardly for show-- it helps propel her through the air for extended hang time and is indispensable for spin-attacking enemies and lifting barrels. Watch out--Dixie packs more power than you might imagine!

I ammount this to pits trophy in melee, along with her hidden data Dixie probably would have been a cool diddy clone.

While these are good suggestions for the most part, one must not forget about Mona, Wario's supposed love interest.

All things considered, she seems to be the prime candidate for second rep of the WarioWare series. She could have an absurd moveset with her scooter, animals and electric guitar incorporated into it, as well as the usual punches and kicks.

Expect Zero Parka Nana for SSB4.

That is wrong on so many levels!

 

[kr3wman]

This is a joke thread and a humourous observation thread. If the mods feel it breaches some kind of rules, please feel free to close it.

Does anyone remember how great it was that in Melee, three out of the four female characters were high up on the tierlist? Sheik, Peach and Samus were both in the upper two tiers of Melee.

In Brawl, every single female character is set to be mid or below besides possibly Zelda or Sheik/Zelda if you use Sheik for damage and then switch to Zelda for the KO. The rest, Peach, Samus and Zamus are set to be Mid or lower, especially Samus who pretty much sucks now.

Conspiracy theorists anyone? I mean, did Samus really need that much nerfing?! She wasn't even Top Tier or among the top of High Tier! Maybe Sakurai just doesn't like women very much and though it absurd that so many women were high up on the Tierlist in Melee and decided to therefore nerf every single one of them into infinity... all except Zelda because she was Bottom tier. But she's not Top Tier Material now so that was just a compromise.


Brawl is the fall of women. How the mighty have fallen.

That's the first thing I saw that was pure nonsense from you.

Seriously. You must be ****ing bored.

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Sarchasm. Learn it, Love it, Do it.

 

[smashbro29]

well it's all importance is it really sakurai's fault there are no important females?

 

[Yuna]

Note, I am one of the exceptions to guy gamers, many times in fighting games, I pick the female characters that can kick butt, because they usually kick but in the fighting style that fits best for me.

I could care less what gender my character is.

I like fast characters that are also strong either in raw power or combos and that don't have to constantly be working uphill to win. A big factor is also their style.

It just so happens that most of the time (in fact, in all often but one), that character is a female one (Chun-Li, Peach, Xianghua) and most of the time, that character is also High or Top Tier (though I've never picked a main based on the tierlist, in fact, I've only known about the tierlist in one of such cases).

Except for in Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 where you pretty much don't stand a chance to win... at all unless you're a Top Tier. That time, I tierwhored Itachi in the first tournament in Sweden where Itachi was allowed just for fun... and stuck with him. Itachi also happens to be male.

 

[kr3wman]

I could care less what gender my character is.

I like fast characters that are also strong either in raw power or combos and that don't have to constantly be working uphill to win. A big factor is also their style.

It just so happens that most of the time (in fact, in all often but one), that character is a female one (Chun-Li, Peach, Xianghua) and most of the time, that character is also High or Top Tier (though I've never picked a main based on the tierlist, in fact, I've only known about the tierlist in one of such cases).

Except for in Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 where you pretty much don't stand a chance to win... at all unless you're a Top Tier. That time, I tierwhored Itachi in the first tournament in Sweden where Itachi was allowed just for fun... and stuck with him. Itachi also happens to be male.

He's blind too. You must really like handicapped matches.

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Really bad pun.

 

[BubbleShield]

This is what sakurai thinks about women.

 

[Yuna]

He's blind too. You must really like handicapped matches.

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Really bad pun.

He's not blind yet. He just has really poor eyesight. You also can't use Amaterasu outside of 3-Man Cell so that saves up on his eyesight a lot.

 

[Dogenzaka]

I think people look into nerfing too much and need to just play the dang game.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

We have definatley have too many joke threads, but at least this one..... nevermind.

 

[brawlmaniac]

well it's all importance is it really sakurai's fault there are no important females?

Uh-oh wrong thing to say on this thread lol.

 

[firedragon_jing]

well it's all importance is it really sakurai's fault there are no important females?

There were plenty of important females, he just chose not to acknowledge them. Hopefully they won't get the boot come next game, Krystal for sure next time, depending when the next FE game is released and when SSB4 planning commences, maybe Micaiah, and if Midna makes any future appearance, maybe...

 

[A New England Winter]

Someone should hack the game and switch Marth's character model for Lyn's.

Bam. God Tier female.

Oh wait. Marth's a girl. False alarm.

 

[TheMagicalKuja]

Sorry kid, Micaiah's doomed at this point.

Yeah I wept too, but at least she fits right in with the Arume in my fanfiX...*shot*

 

[link123456789]

He's not blind yet. He just has really poor eyesight. You also can't use Amaterasu outside of 3-Man Cell so that saves up on his eyesight a lot.

you can Amaterasu?

 

[smashbot226]

Yep. Also, you can Sephiroth off of walls and Leonidas near cliffs.

 

[Prax]

Way to bump a thread that died 4 months ago.

 

[Ilex]

It's not Sakurai's fault that women can't fight.

 

[MarKO X]

It's not Sakurai's fault that women can't fight.

OD.

Anyway, I don't think Sakurai is sexist... he made every chick better than Falcon.

 

[Illusive]

More female representation?
All he wanted to do was represent women as useless.

 

[Iron Thorn]

I don't want krystal or Midna, but I chalk that up to personal vendetta. Krystal is a ho.

DO NOT WANT:
Krystal
Midna

DO WANT:
Lyn
Micaiah
Dixie Kong
Blaze the Cat
Toon Zelda/Tetra
Mona

 

[Vyse]

Yuna forgot Ivysaur.

They turned 'her' into a 'he' for the english translation, instead of keeping her female like May's Ivysaur.

 

[MarKO X]

Jiggs is a she too.

I've actually never encountered a male jigglypuff...

 

[Fawriel]

Samus' nair. Enough said.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Lynn would be an excellent character. Crystal would not.

-Ter

 

[The Slayer]

DO WANT:
Lyn
Micaiah
Dixie Kong
Blaze the Cat
Toon Zelda/Tetra
Mona

I don't hate your opinion, but keep dreaming dude.

 

[Iron Thorn]

Lynn would be an excellent character. Crystal would not.

-Ter

QTF

/10lyns

 

[Negi-Kun]

Super Smash Sisteeeeers..... Catfiiiiiight!!!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Like it or not, the possibilities of female additions in the next Smash's fighting roster are minimal. Nontheless, we must keep hoping for slightly more even female equality in the cast.

That said, the following is who I think would have the most chances of being playable in the next game(or the one after that, depending on the case);

Krystal(pretty much a like it or hate it character, though she did get mentioned in Sakurai's journal 3 times)
Dixie Kong(she was a sidekick in DKC 2 AND became a hero in DKC3. Any questions?)
Mona(considering Wario's recent "Wario Ware" trend, she seems to be the most logical representative of that series after Wario himself)
Lip(she got mentioned in Sakurai's journal twice, so who knows?)
Micaiah(One of the main roles in FE:RD, the series' most recent entry)
Capt. Syrup(if Wario Land: Shake it! sells well, she might have a chance)

 

[degypr]

The F-Zero series needs more rep. Throw in Jody Summer in the mix and both problems are solved.

 

[Fawriel]

Like it or not, the possibilities of female additions in the next Smash's fighting roster are minimal. Nontheless, we must keep hoping for slightly more even female equality in the cast.

That said, the following is who I think would have the most chances of being playable in the next game(or the one after that, depending on the case);

Krystal(pretty much a like it or hate it character, though she did get mentioned in Sakurai's journal 3 times)
Dixie Kong(she was a sidekick in DKC 2 AND became a hero in DKC3. Any questions?)
Mona(considering Wario's recent "Wario Ware" trend, she seems to be the most logical representative of that series after Wario himself)
Lip(she got mentioned in Sakurai's journal twice, so who knows?)
Micaiah(One of the main roles in FE:RD, the series' most recent entry)
Capt. Syrup(if Wario Land: Shake it! sells well, she might have a chance)

Your list shows a distinct lack of Midna or Tetra.

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Or Gardevoir. =<

And just because I can:

 

[WiiWouldLikeTwoPlay]

What bothers me is that the female characters in Brawl are possibly some of the most disrespected video game characters of all time. Practically everyone has forgotten Peach's powers and abilities. Zelda has been heavily debated as to whether she has a complete gender change when transforming to Sheik. Zero Suit Samus… I don't really need to say much. I think an entire thread dedicated to this: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=183346
proves my point.

More female characters would be appreciated. Lyn and Micaiah are two from the Fire Emblem series who are important enough to be included. As long as Mona is up for debate, why not Ashley? Krystal? Almost anyone is fine, really.

*Sigh*…But that will never happen. This thread is awfully serious for something meant to be a joke.

 

[PKNintendo]

This is a joke thread and a humourous observation thread. If the mods feel it breaches some kind of rules, please feel free to close it.

Does anyone remember how great it was that in Melee, three out of the four female characters were high up on the tierlist? Sheik, Peach and Samus were both in the upper two tiers of Melee.

In Brawl, every single female character is set to be mid or below besides possibly Zelda or Sheik/Zelda if you use Sheik for damage and then switch to Zelda for the KO. The rest, Peach, Samus and Zamus are set to be Mid or lower, especially Samus who pretty much sucks now.

Conspiracy theorists anyone? I mean, did Samus really need that much nerfing?! She wasn't even Top Tier or among the top of High Tier! Maybe Sakurai just doesn't like women very much and though it absurd that so many women were high up on the Tierlist in Melee and decided to therefore nerf every single one of them into infinity... all except Zelda because she was Bottom tier. But she's not Top Tier Material now so that was just a compromise.


Brawl is the fall of women. How the mighty have fallen.

He made their kills moves weaker. He tried to be realistic and make them weak (barf)
personally, they should have equal kill moves to the males.

 

[WiiWouldLikeTwoPlay]

Greater than equal for Samus. People forget how powerful Samus is. Super-human strength plus the force of that suit should make her incredibly powerful, physically. Not to mention that a Super Missile or Power Bomb packs quite a punch.

 

[Fawriel]

He made their kills moves weaker. He tried to be realistic and make them weak (barf)
personally, they should have equal kill moves to the males.

Of all the terms I could use to describe what Sakurai did to the characters' movesets, "realistic" is not one I would even consider touching with a ten-foot pole.

 

[WiiWouldLikeTwoPlay]

Very true. If you think about it, why would a direct hit from a sword send someone flying into the air?

 

[rathy Aro]

Marth's spot on the tier list disproves this whole theory.