Scum Wars Mafia - Game!

[Nicholas1024]

@Ronike
Here's the 4 people that voted me aside from KevinM. Great justification, wouldn't you agree? *sarcasm*

unvote: vote: Nicholas1024

Vig take care of scumson king plz?

Unvote Vote: Scumcholas1024

unvote vote scumolas (nicholascum?)

Monster Mafia - Rockin was cast suspicion on for a flavor derail when people were trying to get out of RVS, mentioned several times later.

Wonderland Mafia - Riddle, you probably know this one. Pegged for not revealing the mafiascum game he joked about in RVS (although this was a fluke...)

Getting Schooled Mafia - KevinM, his hydra comment cast suspicion on him.

I'm sure that there's more.

@Xiivi

Vote: Nicholas

 

[Nicholas1024]

At any rate, how about we just move on. (I'm still itching to justify myself, but I have a feeling that it would be a waste of time...)

On non-related-to-me-and-KevinM subjects, I agree with your points related to Crimson and Meta-Kirby.

 

[Ronike]

This is a pointless argument, therefore, I choose to ignore you.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

The survivor discussion is strange too. What's the point in debating the existence of a survivor at this point? It just feels like an odd thing for Marshy to bring up, especially since his justification was "they'll be bored and lose and should just claim now." What? If I was survivor, I'd be doing whatever I could to survive, not get bored and give up. Plus he got sent the setup of the game? How are you in this game if you have the setup Marshy? That just seems unfair. So what's the point in bringing it up? Maybe Marshy's going for so when he has survived all the way into endgame and we haven't managed to kill the survivor and are searching, he can go "No way I'm survivor, I brought it up!" WIFOM? Yes, but I can easily see Marshy thinking that far ahead, and I honestly can't see any other reason as to why he brought it up and how he is in this game if he has the setup. FOS: Marshy

my point wasnt to debate the existence of a survivor and i was instead dragged into it by swords. if you think youd be trying to survive as that role then im not sure youve played as it because its the most boringass role ever. said i got a setup from tom but not for this game. it was a different game and had a survivor in it

 

[Ronike]

No I haven't been survivor.

I see, that makes much more sense (different setup).

I feel much better about Marshy now.

 

[M.K]

Alright, so here are my thoughts in a nutshell:

Meta-Kirby was extremely jumpy at first, but then again, first game having a decent wagon against you first thing? Who wouldn't be jumpy? But then he seemed to calm down a bit, which would be a sign to me that he's scum and his partners are explaining to him to chill, but again, that's kinda hard to justify seeing as how Nick took the pressure off him... Moron... All in all, not sure about him, but definitely one of the scummier players early day 1. FOS: Meta

-I think its weird that after being so active at the start of the game, he suddenly drifts out of activity and the spotlight...

-But he starts posting quite a bit soon after reappearing, so perhaps it just was a few days when he couldn't post. Seems to be reiterating what others have said before, but from a while ago, so more of a stealth copy. Which is kinda scummy, but then again he's new and has shown that he can retain information, which is always nice, even if said newbie is scum.

I understand your views on the situation. I attended a springboard diving camp hosted by my team for a few days over my winter break (started up school today) which explains my inactivity. Sorry for that; however, I'm sure you really can't hold that against me, seeing as I've attempted to contribute far greater than some members of the game.
I may be new to the game, but that doesn't = stupidity. I'm able to retain information like some sort of leech-like sponge monster =)

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nick, swords stop being so sensitive about EVERYTHING. Kevin is NOT scum for making a case against you, Nick. Ronike is NOT scum for telling you to stop making bad jokes, Sword. You can't just vote everybody who hurts your feelings or write things you don't like - that's the epitome of OMGUS. It's already hard enough to do regular scumhunting if scum is smart. We really don't need to things to become more complicated because of you guys making uneducated votes. Get your act together - we try to find scum here and it's not always the guy who's mean to you.

I'm still in favour of lynching Scumsonar King but I'll look at Xiivi / Meta-Kirby later to see on what basis they're being accused.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Hey Gheb, if you were going to tell me that, why didn't you do it earlier?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

request votecount

 

[Steel]

"The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion."

7th Vote Count

Xonar (4) - Gheb_01, KevinM, Macman, Ronike
Meta-Kirby (2) - Xiivi, Marshy
Nicholas1024 (1) - Cacti
KevinM (1) - Nicholas1024
Xiivi (1) - Mentosman8
Ronike (1) - SwordsRBroken

Not Voting: (5) - Xonar, Frozenflame751, Chaco, Scumfever, Meta-Kirby

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

vote: xonar

From now on, unvote first or else your vote will not count.

 

[Steel]

Frozenflame751 and Cacti have been prodded.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Alright. First off, I apologize for some of my recent play. Due to a variety of factors, I'd gotten quite upset at the way this game has been going. However, insulting other players is not going to fix that, and for that I apologize. I ask only one thing of you guys. In the future, when you vote me/insult my play, could you at least give a reason? I can at least try to defend against arguments, but a vote without reason (particularly several of them in rapid succession) causes me to blow my top like few other things do.

Now, I'm going to do a re-read soon, and try to do it without heavily tunneling KevinM. (His attack on me caused me to go into defense mode, and I didn't really keep track of anyone else.)

Unvote:

 

[mentosman8]

/insert-becoming-obsessed-with-assassins-creed-2-johns here. Sorry I didn't make my post last night, but yeah, see start of post for the reasonXD commencing catch up now.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

From now on, unvote first or else your vote will not count.

you should consider not forcing us to adhere to this because this rule is kind of dumb

fos cacti

 

[mentosman8]

So, after my re-read, the main thing I want to say is: bleh. like over half of the day has become predominately worthless with Nick being an uncc'd major character and cop(really think he should have just claimed leia and not roleclaimed). Really not liking Xonar now. I wasn't that uncomfortable with CK early, but him trying to get everyone to write off scummy things that CK did seems like he may be scum unable to defend what his former player did, but feeling he can do better if everyone forgets the standing suspicion on him.

I like a whole lot of Ronike's post. Similarly, really dislike Swords' response to Ronike's comment about the picture. He progressively looked a lot worse after that comment, with the unjustified vote on Ronike, and making it a major discussion point.

Still not a huge fan of Xiivi, and my vote is going to stay for a while. Want to see more of what Xonar has to say(and not defense of CK's actions, some legitimate thoughts and opinions on who may be scum from him), and maybe some more from Swords that doesn't relate to the terrible vote he placed on Ronike.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

The problem is, I am unable to defend what my former player did. I have no clue whatsoever what Crimson King was thinking and thus I am unable to defend myself from those actions. All my defense would lean on are assumptions.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

then SCUMHUNT

all of your posts have just been reacting to heat

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Xonar who's the play then?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

actually mentos/me/scumfevah/nick have all expressed interest in xonar death and are not voting him

you guys just want to lynch him and call it a day?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Currently I think Swords is either dumbtown or scum, I really prefer to play some more in this game before deciding though. We have plenty o' time for a lynch, so that's no biggie.

Additionally, Marshy, I haven't really gotten a break so far. Besides I did comment on Swords a page back, because his reaction was kinda out of proportion, I don't know if that qualifies as scumhunting in your book though. (apparently not)

 

[Chaco]

I wouldn't mind it, Marshy.

Almost dome compiling my junk, should be up later tonight or tomorrow at latest.

 

[KevinM]

Kinda looking at Mentos.

Reread tonight when I'm home.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Currently I think Swords is either dumbtown or scum, I really prefer to play some more in this game before deciding though. We have plenty o' time for a lynch, so that's no biggie.

Additionally, Marshy, I haven't really gotten a break so far. Besides I did comment on Swords a page back, because his reaction was kinda out of proportion, I don't know if that qualifies as scumhunting in your book though. (apparently not)

you dont deserve a break because ck was so scum. he pounced on a newer player (maybe looking for an easy target), rolefished, lurked, probably lied so he could coast, then replaced out when more pressure was applied, then you come in and give us nothing other than "swords is either dumb or scum" which is pretty evident already. we DONT have plenty of time for a lynch because deadlines in a little less in a week and we have to get majority. deadline lynching makes for a boring game and makes people less invested in it because it drags

swords/mentos/cacti/scumnarson king are my picks for scum right now

 

[Nicholas1024]

I'd be fine with a Xonar lynch today, sure. (And here's hoping I don't die/get roleblocked tonight...)

 

[~ Gheb ~]

7th Vote Count

Xonar (4) - Gheb_01, KevinM, Macman, Ronike
Meta-Kirby (2) - Xiivi, Marshy
Nicholas1024 (1) - Cacti
KevinM (1) - Nicholas1024
Xiivi (1) - Mentosman8
Ronike (1) - SwordsRBroken

Not Voting: (5) - Xonar, Frozenflame751, Chaco, Scumfever, Meta-Kirby

Votes are too scattered. If you're not on a wagon then you should at least try to convince people to join yours. Sitting lonely on the same player all day will accomplish absolutely nothing - start voting if you don't and start voting people that make sense to vote. Kevin / Nick / Ronike wagons are currently fruitless so please hop off unless you have good arguments to vote them.

 

[mentosman8]

To respond to Marshy, I don't think we should lynch him just yet, give him a bit of time at least to convince us he's not town, but he's becoming a higher lynch target for the day. For now, Unvote

 

[KevinM]

Can someone refresh my mind on the deadline?

Also going along with what Marshy said the two subjects I share a similar interest in with his scum wagon are Xonar and Mentos.

 

[Steel]

The deadline is 11:59 PM EST on January 12th, 2010.

 

[KevinM]

Steel baby you always got my back.

Would like to solidfy a lynch sometime before the deadline for once instead of scrambling like a bunch of ******* 12 hours before the deadline.

 

[M.K]

I think my main problem with Xonar is the fact that he's been challenged by alot of players to try and explain Crimson King's actions/words, and comes up with the defense of "I don't know what CK was thinking so I can't defend". With the option of Scumhunting available as an alternative to defending, he gives a poor and unnoteworthy response, to which he says "this is what you wanted? probably not".. Xonar, ALTHOUGH you may not have known was CK was thinking, you are able to go back to Page 3/4 (whatever it was, in a rush, can't check) and base your defense on HIS own words. Because you've taken his exact place, you HAVE to be able to account for his shortcomings. "I don't know" just doesn't cut it in my book, especially when you have posts in the past pages of CK that you probably should analyze more carefully.


FoS: Xonar

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Meta Kirby why do you FoS a player that has 4 votes already...? Just hop that wagon and get voting already. Deadline's in 5 about days and we shouldn't squander our time by sitting on the fence until the last second.
Non-voters seriously need to get their act together and get off their lazy butts. Scumfever, Ronike, Chaco, Frozen, Cacti, Xiivi and Mentos gave us almost nothing to work with - I mean that's half of the game and we don't even have a week left 'till deadline. If you can't be active for some reason then please do at least as Ronike does and place your vote where it actually makes sense.

Still fosing Mentos - he seems to be stalling pretty hard here already with his "I post something soon guys... oh well forget it I post something later ^_^" ... Mentos how long will you keep us waiting? Give us something to work with please. Reminds me of mentos / frozen scumteam stalling FFVII all game because Frozen seems to be doing exactly the same right now. Annoying.

Unvote Vote Mentos

Xonar still deserves death pretty badly but I'd say the time is right to pressure somebody else. Will probably end up voting Scumnarson King by the end of the day regardless but Mentos needs to speak p like now.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

you dont deserve a break because ck was so scum. he pounced on a newer player (maybe looking for an easy target), rolefished, lurked, probably lied so he could coast, then replaced out when more pressure was applied, then you come in and give us nothing other than "swords is either dumb or scum" which is pretty evident already. we DONT have plenty of time for a lynch because deadlines in a little less in a week and we have to get majority. deadline lynching makes for a boring game and makes people less invested in it because it drags

swords/mentos/cacti/scumnarson king are my picks for scum right now

Maybe I don't DESERVE a break, but that's no justification. The only thing I said is that I didn't get a break.

I don't care to have a boring day1 if we lynch scum. Why do you want to lynch so quick when we have a higher chance of lynching scum if we wait soem more?

gheb why are you applying pressure if you aint even gonna vote him anyway, why would anyone be under pressure if the votes are meaningless?
fever youre asking me whos the play, what is your opinion besides me? I havent seen you post since I entered so Id like to hear you

 

[#HBC | marshy]

^ stalling

was gonna vote mentos but id rather the vig just shoot him tonight

 

[#HBC | Mac]

lol mentos is quite obviously not suspect. fos: marshy for telling vig to shoot someone who'd be great to have around later in the game. Especially since he's nowhere close to being the only inactive, and there are a crapload of better candidates.

just lynch xonar and be don wif it

 

[Ronike]

Way to read Gheb. I said numerous times that I've had major RL johns and hadn't been contributing, but I just had a major post a page back, and yet you still lump me in with the inactives. Plus you are trying to disassemble the lynch of the day. You his scum buddy?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

crapload of better candidates.

who ?

 

[Xiivi]

unvote: vote: xonar

needs to happen; still V/LA

 

[mentosman8]

So, after my re-read, the main thing I want to say is: bleh. like over half of the day has become predominately worthless with Nick being an uncc'd major character and cop(really think he should have just claimed leia and not roleclaimed). Really not liking Xonar now. I wasn't that uncomfortable with CK early, but him trying to get everyone to write off scummy things that CK did seems like he may be scum unable to defend what his former player did, but feeling he can do better if everyone forgets the standing suspicion on him.

I like a whole lot of Ronike's post. Similarly, really dislike Swords' response to Ronike's comment about the picture. He progressively looked a lot worse after that comment, with the unjustified vote on Ronike, and making it a major discussion point.

Still not a huge fan of Xiivi, and my vote is going to stay for a while. Want to see more of what Xonar has to say(and not defense of CK's actions, some legitimate thoughts and opinions on who may be scum from him), and maybe some more from Swords that doesn't relate to the terrible vote he placed on Ronike.

Meta Kirby why do you FoS a player that has 4 votes already...? Just hop that wagon and get voting already. Deadline's in 5 about days and we shouldn't squander our time by sitting on the fence until the last second.
Non-voters seriously need to get their act together and get off their lazy butts. Scumfever, Ronike, Chaco, Frozen, Cacti, Xiivi and Mentos gave us almost nothing to work with - I mean that's half of the game and we don't even have a week left 'till deadline. If you can't be active for some reason then please do at least as Ronike does and place your vote where it actually makes sense.

Still fosing Mentos - he seems to be stalling pretty hard here already with his "I post something soon guys... oh well forget it I post something later ^_^" ... Mentos how long will you keep us waiting? Give us something to work with please. Reminds me of mentos / frozen scumteam stalling FFVII all game because Frozen seems to be doing exactly the same right now. Annoying.

Unvote Vote Mentos

Xonar still deserves death pretty badly but I'd say the time is right to pressure somebody else. Will probably end up voting Scumnarson King by the end of the day regardless but Mentos needs to speak p like now.

Emphasis mine in second quote. Are you just not reading Gheb, or just overlooking things to make what you want to seem true sound like it is? I've already made the post i promised. No, it's not a massive wall of text type post, but it pretty clearly lists my suspicions and gives my opinions. Hell, if half the first part of the day hadn't been Kev V Nick which turned out leaving almost nothing useful afterwards, it could have been bigger, but that's really the case. How do you call me out for stalling when I've already made the post I talked about, and haven't even been inactive long enough to get a prod, when there are others who have been much more inactive and said even less of use than I have?

Also find it odd that you call people out for not "at least placing their vote where it actually makes sense" as you vote someone new instead of continuing trying to pressure the person you seem to find most scummy.

 

[Paladin77]

did i just read '*** wars'?
looooooooooool

sorry
just wanted to point that out

 

[KevinM]

LOOOOOOL

OMG You're right.

*infracts*