Scum Wars Mafia - Game!

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

V/LA n such. See related thread. I've missed a lot and will be catching up when I return. Apologies to all.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

gheb why are you applying pressure if you aint even gonna vote him anyway, why would anyone be under pressure if the votes are meaningless?

Translation?

Way to read Gheb. I said numerous times that I've had major RL johns and hadn't been contributing, but I just had a major post a page back, and yet you still lump me in with the inactives.

Point is that you haven't posted too much, which applies to 5 other players and that's just too much overall. I'm not blaming you for being inactive I'm merely pointing out a fact.

Plus you are trying to disassemble the lynch of the day. You his scum buddy?

This comment is just lawltastic. You're the one who has to read.

Emphasis mine in second quote. Are you just not reading Gheb, or just overlooking things to make what you want to seem true sound like it is?

Neither.

I've already made the post i promised. No, it's not a massive wall of text type post, but it pretty clearly lists my suspicions and gives my opinions. Hell, if half the first part of the day hadn't been Kev V Nick which turned out leaving almost nothing useful afterwards, it could have been bigger, but that's really the case.

How do you know for sure that Kevin vs Nick left nothing useful? I mean the claimed cop was wagoned down to like L-2 or L-3. Don't you think that scum might've been on this wagon? You're dismissing options here before they're even talked about at all.

How do you call me out for stalling when I've already made the post I talked about, and haven't even been inactive long enough to get a prod, when there are others who have been much more inactive and said even less of use than I have?

I'm not voting you only for inactivity / stalling. You forgot I fosed you before?

Also find it odd that you call people out for not "at least placing their vote where it actually makes sense" as you vote someone new instead of continuing trying to pressure the person you seem to find most scummy.

Who said I don't find you scummy? Kevin / Marshy both voiced suspicions against you so I try to make this day to be as productive as possible by offering another wagon against a player that me and others consider scummy.

 

[Nicholas1024]

How do you know for sure that Kevin vs Nick left nothing useful? I mean the claimed cop was wagoned down to like L-2 or L-3. Don't you think that scum might've been on this wagon? You're dismissing options here before they're even talked about at all.

I'd love to think that (if only to ease my wounded pride. ), but I think I'm too biased about the matter to give an honest opinion.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Don't like Gheb's 114. The first part of the post referring to CK was just parroting what people have said previously. I don't really get why he felt the need to repeat this.

Not sure what to think about Macman for coming after me with a stiff game face, and then laughing his own actions away with a "lol j/k" basically.

Nick's contradictory expectations of the survivor based on his expectations of the quality of players in this game is also duly noted.

Can you be more definitive with the **** you say please? The 2 statements above seem to imply suspicioun but you never outright say it.

Yeah CK is looking kinda scummy atm... :/
Buuuut he's been slipping under the radar lately by being inactive, so I'd like everyone to post what they think about CK and whyyyyyy

No preferred order, just would like FF, Nic and and Metakirby to wait a few posts.
FF because he apparently has a good scumdar and people will be more inclined to trust him without thinking first.
Nic because atm hes confirmed town and I wouldn't like people blindly following him n stuff.
Meta because he's new and might just copy what others think.
Just being safe, don't bite me.

This is contradictory. If I were to wait a few posts, I would be able to see other opinions. To avoid some type of bait trap, I'll answer now.
Earlier in the game, CK called me out at first. First, I thought of it as "oh, he's trying to help me". After a few posts, however, I started to realize that this was an easy way to manipulate me. I find him scummy at this point and time because of his actions. Also, he failed to really defend himself, saying, basically "I don't really know what I have to defend against", which immediately struck me as suspicious, because even though others were telling him what to defend against, he didn't acknowledge any wrong doing.

Ups got trapped in my words
To go earlier, yeah. Sorry, and glad you caught that -_-

Marshy, is there anything you saw in his actual posts that you thought was scummy?
Kirby, could you repeat what exactly he had to defend against, and I'll try to shed light to the subject from my point of view... which isn't necessarily the same as defending, but I don't know what was going through CK's mind at the time

even though this seems like just a minor slip up it still bugs me. MK points out the inconsistencies in Xonar's post about not wanting certain people to respond first but then Xonar says my bad I meant they should respond earlier and not later, which still would not make sense because his reasoning for nick and FF implies that he'd want them to go later and not earlier.

EH, for some reason, I think if Xonar flips scum, one of his mates will be in this 3. Most specifically FF because Xonar seemed to have just thrown his name out there. There are other good players, [kevin, marshy, ronike, etc] but he doesn't mention any of them. This sentiment is furthered by the idea that FF never said anything about xonar previously except that he hoped dumbscum would have hammered him when he was L-1.

fos: marshy

just kidding.

let's lynch xonar nao?

 

[M.K]

even though this seems like just a minor slip up it still bugs me. MK points out the inconsistencies in Xonar's post about not wanting certain people to respond first but then Xonar says my bad I meant they should respond earlier and not later, which still would not make sense because his reasoning for nick and FF implies that he'd want them to go later and not earlier.

To be completely honest, at first I thought it was some type of trap for me. I thought he purposely made the slip up for me to answer after everyone, and then have him say "Oh, well you just copied their opinions", like he said I would if I went later. It struck me as odd, so I wanted to point it out AND answer instead of just answering, just in case anyone else didn't see how he contradicted himself.

 

[mentosman8]

How do you know for sure that Kevin vs Nick left nothing useful? I mean the claimed cop was wagoned down to like L-2 or L-3. Don't you think that scum might've been on this wagon? You're dismissing options here before they're even talked about at all.



I'm not voting you only for inactivity / stalling. You forgot I fosed you before?



Who said I don't find you scummy? Kevin / Marshy both voiced suspicions against you so I try to make this day to be as productive as possible by offering another wagon against a player that me and others consider scummy.

1. Kevin vs. Nick was almost entirely worthless. The wagon may contain scum, but as I read through that whole argument at once, he did seem scummy at times and it will be hard to distinguish between legit townies scumhunting, and scum trying to get a mislynch through. Not to mention I said nothing of the wagon, solely that the biggest thing that could have garnered comments, Kevin vs. Nick, was not useful. Doesn't mean nothing happens, just means that argument, which absolutely dominated discussion, doesn't strike me as useful or needing comment. Also note, one of my suspects I listed was in fact on that wagon. Think there may be some reasons behind that?

TL;DR version: Just because the argument was predominately useless, doesn't mean everything that happened during the course of it was. Don't say I'm dismissing things just because I mention something that happened during the same period.

2. I didn't forget you FoS'd me before, but your post called out a lot of people who have been more inactive, and would be more reasonable to pressure, INCLUDING FF in that group, who you also FoS'd. Just saying it was odd that you picked me.

3. I don't know who said that, because I'm pretty sure no one did. In fact, all I said was that for someone complaining about votes not being where they're useful, switching to someone new with no votes on them, with less than a week till the deadline, when you clearly say in the same post that you are likely to vote Xonar by the end of the day seems odd. It's odd because if you think you'll land on Xonar at the end of the day, I would assume he is most scummy to you and it would make sense to have your vote there. I didn't say you didn't find me scummy at all, just that you switched off of someone you seem to find the most scummy to me.

On another note, Xonar, you REALLY need to start speaking up if you're town. You have several people calling you scummy, and all you've really offered to the contrary is "guys you can't hold me responsible for what CK did!" I haven't seen any legit scumhunting, nor really anything lately. My vote is guaranteed staying on you unless you show me something that looks townie, and it's being placed there now.

Vote: Xonar

Still got about 5 days from the deadline, but it's looking like you are easily the best lynch option.

Also, Marshy, vig should definitely not shoot me tonight. Since Gheb has been the only one to give any reason for my scumminess, and some of that being based on misinterpretation of what I said, I don't really have a way to defend myself against you/kev, but I've got to agree with Mac, there are far better choices for vig shots.

 

[Steel]

"RAAWWRRGGRRWWRRR"

8th Vote Count

Xonar (5) - KevinM, Macman, Ronike, Xiivi, mentosman8
Meta-Kirby (1) - Marshy
Nicholas1024 (1) - Cacti
Ronike (1) - SwordsRBroken
mentosman8 (1) - Gheb_01

Not Voting: (6) - Xonar, Frozenflame751, Chaco, Scumfever, Meta-Kirby, Nicholas1024

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote Vote Xonar

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Thought i unvoted. *shrugs* unvote Vote Xonar

 

[~ Gheb ~]

He's -1 now

 

[#HBC | marshy]

gotta hold hammah...

claim or die scumnar

 

[#HBC | Mac]

kill kill kill kill kill
you know what? you should just vote him and give me hammer. unvote

 

[#HBC | marshy]

sike. stop trying to be me macman

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: xonar

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm Lando Calrissian, Governer.
Yes I can stop my own lynch and will do so if you kill me.

Ok, now to respond to people.

Macman:
My comment about going first was obviously aimed at MetaKirby only. Thought that was obvious enough.
I added FF because reading from the critique thread, I heard he has a good scum radar, which is obviously a reason for people to follow him. I have no knowledge of how people react to each other on here, so I just took him as obvious choice. Making an order would've been way to complicated for an 'outsider' like me.

@mentosman
I haven't been saying 'I cant take responsibility for CK' I'm saying that I ask people to not judge me on him. I KNOW ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLETELY CLEAR ME FROM THAT, I have noted this before. Start reading my posts carefully before judging.

The problem with scumhunting atm is that people can't really reply directly to me because of time difference, so cases are hard to keep pushed. Additionally, I have to reread everything again and make a nice list. I will do so today, if I'm still alive.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Hmm. The first post doesn't specify an a specific alloted time for twilight. Also you can save yourself? Are there any restrictions to your power?

Also off of the top of your head, who are your biggest scumreads?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

The restriction to my power is that I can only use it once
I can veto it in the twillight face, so it does exist.

On the part about my scumreads, that's the problem. I haven't been scumhunting because I don't really have everything charted that well. That's why I'm doing the reread soonish. I'm kinda ashamed for it, but I think it's because I've been replacing, never really have this happen before.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

yu should vote yourself so that we can test your power

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

That's wasting a lynch.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Ok I reread the whole thing and I think that the main reason that my radar is so off is because there are so many people who
Are morons
Post without reasoning
Don't post at all
Fight over little things
Post 90% fluff in their posts
Are standard town

Anyway got a better view on the game atm.

 

[Chaco]

There's no reason in not testing it now that you've claimed it, plus it gives us a cleared townie.

Also, still adding up my scores and junk.

I'll drop hammer if need be, if Xonar won't hammer himself.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I feel like we need to ask more people before we decide wether or not hammering me is a smart move, just to test my power. I can do it just once, like I said...

 

[~ Gheb ~]

If you can do it only once it's garbage anyways. The best thing we can do with it is to confirm you as a townie, which will be known by lynching you.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

whose scum xonar? wtf

governor is a whack role anyways,might as well test yur power.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Thinking KevinM because some of his posts just lack some logic
Gheb, macman and scum arent giving me good vibes
Marshy is like the only player I can't really get a read on because he's often half joking with a core of truth and sometimes it's just some bullsht
rest is either too silent or makes standard posts n stuff.

Yeah, I was gonna use the power on myself probably anyways, so might just do it now then. If there are no further questions, proceed.

 

[Chaco]

Dibs on hammer!

Unvote; Vote: Xonar

 

[SwordsRbroken]

I envisioned Lando as more of a indy role because he betrayed Han Solo and co in Episode 5, yet helped save him in episode 6. But not like it matters now. (marshy didn't drop the hammer this time, lol.)

 

[Steel]

9th Vote Count

Xonar (8) - KevinM, Macman, Ronike, Xiivi, mentosman8, Gheb_01, SwordsRBroken, Chaco
Meta-Kirby (1) - Marshy
Nicholas1024 (1) - Cacti

Not Voting: (5) - Xonar, Frozenflame751, Scumfever, Meta-Kirby, Nicholas1024

A lynch has been decided upon. The game has fallen into twilight. Twilight will end in 24 hours.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Dibs on hammer!

Unvote; Vote: Xonar

attn mod: the above vote is fake

vote xonar

HAMMAH

 

[Chaco]

Marshy just because you want to look cool and hammer doesn't mean my vote is fake. Although your hammers are always cooler.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Vote: Xonar

Hey, I wanna

HAMMAH

him too!

 

[#HBC | Mac]

where's steel
oh nvm im dumb

 

[Steel]

The lynch has been stopped!

Day 1 ends.

Night 1 begins.

Night actions are due Sunday, January 12th at 12:00 PM EST.

 

[Steel]

On one side of the galaxy… a medical supplies shipping freighter secretly transporting rebel soldiers is uncovered and subsequently attacked by imperial forces. The rebel freighter jettisons all of its non-living cargo to create a stream of debris to fend off imperial TIE fighters, but it is not enough to lose the imperials. The rebel forces are cornered and must abandon ship, as they leave all of the auto-pilot controls in the hands of a single, reliable astromech droid who sacrifices his programmed, yet all too human, life for the rebel alliance. In a terrible blow, however, a single shot fired from behind imperial lines soars through space and strikes the astromech droid over the top of the head, disabling it permanently.

SwordsRbroken (R2-D2) the Rebel Townie has died during the night.


The rebel crew is forced to leave someone behind to pilot the ship away from the imperials so that the rest can pilot the escape pods and escape unseen. One dominating figure, who lives his life in service of an honorable bloodpact, immediately volunteers. He would rather die than see the rest of his friends, and ultimately their mission, fail. He puts his hands on his companion’s shoulder for a brief, touching moment, and then they all leave. Alone, he pilots the ship in a dead man’s course. The rest of the rebel figures escape, sans one furry friend.

Mentosman8 (Chewbacca) the Rebel Mason has died during the night.


Night 1 ends.

Day 2 begins.

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

A deadline has been set for January 25th, 2010 at 11:59:59 PM EST.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

really?

****ing vig so dumb

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: frozenflame

 

[Nicholas1024]

Hold it!

I investigated Ronike last night...


GUILTY.

Vote: Ronike

@Ronike
Sorry man, you're the play.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

unvote, vote: ronike

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Vote: Ronike

Nic just to freshen up your mind, have you investigated someone before? at N0 or something.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote Ronike

Looks like there's a town roleblocker.