ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I don't know but his absence saddens me.
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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
There's too many Falcos in NC. TOO MANY
Again
Nc is kind of a family. We do a lot of things the same way others do.
While that's good and creates a really great community, it can also get really silly.
Like a lot of our players play similarly, at least in certain situations.
Nc is kind of a family. We do a lot of things the same way others do.
While that's good and creates a really great community, it can also get really silly.
Like a lot of our players play similarly, at least in certain situations.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
You but the tourny I went to was pretty small, yet Slaher, PP, Cam, Bden, and a couple more Falcos were there. HOW WAS I SUPPOSE TO BEAT THESE FALCOS
Edit: sneak was there too.
Edit: sneak was there too.
What tournament was that?
And yeah, but again, it all comes down to getting that character v character knowledge so you can go player v player.
Falco will always be a horrible MU, so you'll have to fight player v player.
Unfortunately that's kind of what NC is good at lol
And yeah, but again, it all comes down to getting that character v character knowledge so you can go player v player.
Falco will always be a horrible MU, so you'll have to fight player v player.
Unfortunately that's kind of what NC is good at lol
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
It was gold mine 2.
Walt
Smash Ace
I gotta play MacD and Abate in G2 pools. gimme gimme sum tips yo
I don't know who the other guys I play are
I don't know who the other guys I play are
D
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for abate refer to that essay that wenbobular wrote, pretty good and i learned from it vs luigi
macd is an aggressive peach and I suggest camping him and sticking to fundamentals
he will clip you with dash attack a lot, downsmash on platforms, space for 1.5 peach sizes
macd is an aggressive peach and I suggest camping him and sticking to fundamentals
he will clip you with dash attack a lot, downsmash on platforms, space for 1.5 peach sizes
Niko45
Smash Master
*really really good
For those of you confused on how to play against a Peach
This is a good mid-level match to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6q5FMZGFZI&feature=related
Poehlcat is really good and one of my favorite smashers atm
He does a lot of really good stuff, and a lot of bad, which is why this is a good match to watch.
Though he doesn't JC grab, which confounds me
Anywho
Watch it
Learn it
Be better
Good luck guys, I'm rooting for all of you who are at G2
This is a good mid-level match to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6q5FMZGFZI&feature=related
Poehlcat is really good and one of my favorite smashers atm
He does a lot of really good stuff, and a lot of bad, which is why this is a good match to watch.
Though he doesn't JC grab, which confounds me
Anywho
Watch it
Learn it
Be better
Good luck guys, I'm rooting for all of you who are at G2
Palpi
Smash Hero
Abate has a pretty nice falco too, so don't just think luigi.
Jeapie
Smash Journeyman
Do your best falcons and be on the livestream so
`we`
can enjoy this moment of happiness
AT GENESIS.
useless post is useless ^^
`we`
can enjoy this moment of happiness
AT GENESIS.
useless post is useless ^^
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
GG7 vs MacD moneymatch from DGDTJ is like, the current book on how to play the matchup, imo
EDIT: aside from SilentSpectre vs Armada, that is... I don't think anyone could have done what Jeff did
EDIT: aside from SilentSpectre vs Armada, that is... I don't think anyone could have done what Jeff did
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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Big Luigi post (some most posts after it)
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12971611&postcount=226
Sparknotes version:
Punishes on recognition
uncharged side-b's offstage = knee
tornado on shield -> stop close by = knee
early aerial on shield - Nair or Uair
Space around Nair when comboing
Just hit him with the tips of your feet <_<
DI
To his back when he's on the ground, away when he combos you
If you forget this just make sure you DI the finisher because Luigi is weak as ****
Respect his CC
Especially if you suck at DIing downsmash <_< another reason why using Knee and stomp are sometimes better than using Nair
Safe zone - right outside his aerial range
Don't dash back if you don't feel safe, just make sure to stay less than 1 wavedash away while staying out of aerial range
Always shield when in misfire trajectory
Just do it <_<
DUMB LUIGI THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE FALL FOR
One wavedash away -> he'll probably try to wavedash Ftilt you, just shield and **** him <_<
Letting him back when he charges missiles - just jump out and kill him >_>
He's awkwardly in the air falling down - WATCH OUT FOR THE DOWN-B!!!
I can't think of anything else
If you don't remember anything, just remember how to punish the things I listed as punishments on recognition ... when you see how laggy his moves are just kill him haha
ESPECIALLY UNCHARGED SIDE B
If nothing else
Just kill him when he's doing ****ty uncharged side-b's
Every
Single
Time
That's probably enough to beat most Luigis anyway
Somehow this post turned out to be longer than the one I posted, but there's probably less writing in it so whatever
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12971611&postcount=226
Sparknotes version:
Punishes on recognition
uncharged side-b's offstage = knee
tornado on shield -> stop close by = knee
early aerial on shield - Nair or Uair
Space around Nair when comboing
Just hit him with the tips of your feet <_<
DI
To his back when he's on the ground, away when he combos you
If you forget this just make sure you DI the finisher because Luigi is weak as ****
Respect his CC
Especially if you suck at DIing downsmash <_< another reason why using Knee and stomp are sometimes better than using Nair
Safe zone - right outside his aerial range
Don't dash back if you don't feel safe, just make sure to stay less than 1 wavedash away while staying out of aerial range
Always shield when in misfire trajectory
Just do it <_<
DUMB LUIGI THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE FALL FOR
One wavedash away -> he'll probably try to wavedash Ftilt you, just shield and **** him <_<
Letting him back when he charges missiles - just jump out and kill him >_>
He's awkwardly in the air falling down - WATCH OUT FOR THE DOWN-B!!!
I can't think of anything else
If you don't remember anything, just remember how to punish the things I listed as punishments on recognition ... when you see how laggy his moves are just kill him haha
ESPECIALLY UNCHARGED SIDE B
If nothing else
Just kill him when he's doing ****ty uncharged side-b's
Every
Single
Time
That's probably enough to beat most Luigis anyway
Somehow this post turned out to be longer than the one I posted, but there's probably less writing in it so whatever
Walt
Smash Ace
Cool cool Wenbo, thanks.
DuckPimp
Smash Ace
wenbo has played against a lot of luigi
Winston
Smash Master
Ugh I hate to keep spamming the thread with irrelevant Luigi discussion but I really want to clarify a few things in that post >___> sorry guys
Tornado hitting your shield -> he doesn't stop close by = wd oos -> dash and grab him. Tornado hitting your shield is really unsafe. But you could probably figure this out just by looking at it
Super important to DI his uthrow behind him at low percents. Falcon is super heavy so this is pretty easy
If you really want to retreat for some reason consider doing it while jumping, like doing a retreating sh bair/stomp, or maybe jumping away to a platform if one is available.
or dsmash.. that's also really common... you can knee a dsmash on your shield, though the timing is weird.
SuperMatt
Smash Champion
i know i saw mango play as falcon vs some luigi i forgot who it was
but he had some nice tricks, you may want to check out that video
i remember he had some nice edge guard stuff
but he had some nice tricks, you may want to check out that video
i remember he had some nice edge guard stuff
Nakamaru
Smash Master
when luigi's side-b. Just go out and hit him. He is so vulnerable you can pretty much do anything. Even moonwalk bair or reverse uair.
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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You know what's better than Bair or Uair
Knee...
Knee...
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
You know whats better than falcon punch??? Fully charged fsmash.
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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You know what will actually hit them and kill them like 99% of the time
Knee...
Knee...
lrn2ambutter
Wenbobular
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I thought that was common knowledge ~_~Oh, Gentleman? Okay Wenbo, I'll keep that in mind
In all seriousness
uthrow->dsmash may work on spacies around 80% if they don't hard DI away
Dsmash is mad weak though
Winston
Smash Master
Yup, this is a pretty good point, stop going for that uthrow dtilt 2005 darkrain nonsense and uthrow dsmash if they're slightly below the percent where you can uthrow kneeOh, Gentleman? Okay Wenbo, I'll keep that in mind
In all seriousness
uthrow->dsmash may work on spacies around 80% if they don't hard DI away
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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Not when they know how to hold a direction and tech ...
...I guess that's asking too much of like 75% of the community though so I guess that qualifies as like, stupidly good
...I guess that's asking too much of like 75% of the community though so I guess that qualifies as like, stupidly good
Magus420
Smash Master
Why u-throw d-smash? F-smash is stronger and is just as fast.
Winston
Smash Master
Fsmash won't kill them at those percents though, and it has a higher trajectory, right?
Also I imagine that you can link dsmash into uair on Falcon at the right percent if he's survival DIing >__>
Also I imagine that you can link dsmash into uair on Falcon at the right percent if he's survival DIing >__>
Magus420
Smash Master
They have the same trajectory. Also does more damage in addition to more KB.
Again because it's too low of a percent to fsmash
And you're right Wenbo, if they're DIing correctly they won't be able to get hit.
And you'd be surprised what's common knowledge and what isn't.
Winston I like to finish off as quickly as possible, so if it is possible to get the stock at 80 as opposed to 100]fsmash]/110[knee], then I want that
And you're right Wenbo, if they're DIing correctly they won't be able to get hit.
And you'd be surprised what's common knowledge and what isn't.
Winston I like to finish off as quickly as possible, so if it is possible to get the stock at 80 as opposed to 100]fsmash]/110[knee], then I want that
Magus420
Smash Master
If they're at too low of a percent to f-smash they're also too low to d-smash. I already said they're the same speed. F-smash actually starts hitting a frame before d-smash but doesn't hit far enough in front to match d-smash's range until the 2nd hit frame making them equal, except if they slightly DI in f-smash could hit when it first comes out and work earlier than d-smash.
If you do an up angled f-smash it's even stronger and will kill outright or send too far to recover when it starts working around 80 unless you're hitting them back across the middle of a wide stage.
If you do an up angled f-smash it's even stronger and will kill outright or send too far to recover when it starts working around 80 unless you're hitting them back across the middle of a wide stage.