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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

Roneblaster

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**** i just stared at magus .gifs for about 15 minutes, and im gonna go back and look at them some more after this post.

I wish there was a peach player around to try some of that stuff out. Im gonna make one of the spacie mains around here play peach for me to practice.
 

P.C. Jona

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falco isnt that bad

he dies at like 60

we die sooner if we go offstage but its not that bad

its all about tech chasing

and knees
 

j00t

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I like Falcon vs. Sheik over Falcon vs. Falco.

Falco just goes autopilot and beats your ***.
 

Brookman

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yes it is that bad. falcos dont even have to try to beat falcon
to be honest, if you play the game with the mindset of competition being 'character vs. character' instead of 'player vs. player' you are not and never will be good. ever. ^_^

we should **** ride magus for at least the next three pages. Gifs are way too good.
If Peach DIs the d-throw in at 0% they can just hold up against a SH n-air to avoid the 2nd hit without even needing to SDI it. It's the type of situation that's great for the FJ or instant DJ to FF n-air I was talking about before though. Even if they SDI the 1st kick it'll still get the 2nd hit if you do it right.

Off a grab at like 0-10ish, if they DI the FJ-FF/IDJ-FF n-air low you can FJ double u-air, and if they DI the n-air high you can FJ double u-air or if they were at almost 0 when you grabbed you could also SHFFL u-air to FJ double u-air. When she's at around 20+% she can't n-air between the u-airs in a FJ double u-air, and d-throw->FJ/IDJ FF n-air gets her to that percent and in the right position for it when they DI the throw high at very low damage.

________ DI N-Air High -> FJ Dbl U-Air ________ DI N-Air High -> SHFFL U-Air -> FJ Dbl U-Air


________ DI N-Air Low -> FJ Dbl U-Air


___________ U-Air -> No Hitstun



Grab on Peach below 15%
You can try to regrab if they DI the throw low until like 30/40ish, though it's not entirely guaranteed and it's possible to DJ/wiggle to airdodge away to escape if they DI it low enough.

If they DI to be just above regrab height you can space a SH n-air since it has more vertical range at his feet, but if they SDI it up (holding up doesn't work) they'll still be able to avoid the 2nd hit. If they do this I don't think you can really do any good followups on the throw at very low damage that lead into more things besides maybe weird stuff like a pivot b-air, or IDJ d-air over her into a techchase (you go over n-air range). If you try to FJ/IDJ FF n-air the 1st kick will go over them and miss so you can't use that.

An u-air off a d-throw at 0% at best has you getting out of lcancel lag at the same time she gets out of stun (gif at the bottom), so you'd need to space it and then try to work around what she does afterwards to get something else in. If she DI's the u-air low off a grab at around like 10 or so you should be to get a JC grab off, though if she DI's the u-air high you can't hit her.


Grab on Peach after 15%
U-air actually has some stun at this point so out of the throw you can start to u-air->regrab/FJ dbl u-air, or straight FJ dbl u-air depending on DI. Don't bother with n-air since if they DI it high at this damage you won't get as much off it as you would an u-air.


new page. Did you know you can multi-quote on different pages?
 

GamerGuitarist7

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to be honest, if you play the game with the mindset of competition being 'character vs. character' instead of 'player vs. player' you are not and never will be good. ever. ^_^
Wow, that's some deep ****. i'm going to try and think that way more LOL

NO WONDER I CAN'T BEAT FOXES! :-/
 

Tomacawk

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lol yeah it's player vs player unless it's falcon vs sheik falco or fox
then there's no hope
nesn00b isn't here anymore to slay sheiks and falcos :(
i had something funny to say but i forgot and i'm too lazy to go back in the pages
anybody care to discuss the falcon vs ness matchup?
 

Divinokage

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lol yeah it's player vs player unless it's falcon vs sheik falco or fox
then there's no hope
nesn00b isn't here anymore to slay sheiks and falcos :(
i had something funny to say but i forgot and i'm too lazy to go back in the pages
anybody care to discuss the falcon vs ness matchup?
There's always hope!!! Enough with this nonsense!!
 

ORLY

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**** you guys it's my thread

plus i don't think those GIFs are accurate
Come now, Scar. You know that you're way more electrifying!

I mean, I don't lose $1 MMs at my first tournament ever to just -anyone-!
 

ChRed2AKrisp

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hai guyzzz

i haz kombo video.

watch plz?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs7Jgt8E_1g

i promiss it r gud, eggm gave it his blessing.

also scar thinks i'm a top player on the EC according to the quote in my sig

(yes i'm well aware it was a joke scar. too bad though, i'm just going to bring it up out of context repeatedly)

also I propose we make a scar getting comboed video called I Killed Scar, and it begins with the scene where scar gets kicked into a flaming pit and attacked by hyenas.

I call being a hyena. Specifically Ed the Hyena.
 

Tomacawk

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does knee beat fair?
does nair?
is uair effective from any position besides under ness?
shield grab isn't gunna work on a ness spacing fairs and bairs properly
 

ChRed2AKrisp

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Hey scar i found this plastic scar action figure thing from burger king, got movable legs and tail, it's like 4 inches long, if I gave it to you would you turn it into some sort of mascot and carry it around like pakman or DJN does?
 

P.C. Jona

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scar definitely already has one but he doesnt carry it around i think

i remember seeing it in a picture

unless he lost it or some bull
 

Turazrok

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It gives me a headache.

When people type all funny.

But whatever.

I have a question.

Can you edgegaurd with ftilt like Ganon?

Or is it too slow/has a lame hitbox?
 

P.C. Jona

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well its easier to read

and yea sure you can do it

against fox/falco side-b

and falcons up-b

probably alot of other stuff

but falcon usually has better options

up tilt being one of them
 

Turazrok

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well its easier to read

and yea sure you can do it

against fox/falco side-b

and falcons up-b

probably alot of other stuff

but falcon usually has better options

up tilt being one of them
Up tilt

It's

Pretty good.

I use it sometimes.

Or I go for knee

Edge guard.

Because Knee is the best.
 

Turazrok

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I agree it was good. Especially the dthrow. Or the grab phantasm, although that one was just funny. I like this thread, people actually answer questions. Unlike those ganon threads.
 

P.C. Jona

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actually the falcon boards pretty much suck without me

its like idk boring

im gonna abandon you guys again till idk when and i wanna see what goes on

poor readers of scars thread, it wouldnt be scars thread, without jona

and now its not scars thread because jona is gone

:[ bye guys
 

ChRed2AKrisp

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i can make up for you.

by posting funny.

and pretending i have a good doc.

also turazrok,

i find it funny that removing the azr makes your name turok

and your avatar is a dinosaur.






lol
 
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