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Saffron City - East Coast Regional MELEE Monthlies! ON HOLD indefinitely

Ben-Teezee

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maybe you could designate 6-8 pros that actually care and play different chars, maybe just off top of my head ppl that seem nice and helpful:

eggm
brian
swift
hailey
hbk
d1
me
djn


idk ppl like that, that are friendly and knowledgable about the game.

also how did they determine who was too "pro" to be in amateur bracket? also i think there should just be an amatuer tournament as a side event instead of teams maybe, like i know sometimes im more likely to go to a tourney if jman/vanz/ chops arent going i just feel like i can be more competitive.

is there even an updated power ranking for tristate? i feel like were so inactive... btw super dumb question, whats the 3rd state in tristate?

and sry for talking about these things in ur thread just not sure where it would go and be relevant to tristate.
 

ranmaru

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Yeah which is why I want to host tournies. Also, should there be one thread dedicated to brawl and melee, or one brawl and one for melee?

The PA melee ranking isn't updated though... I'm sure Chibo would edit it, I'll ask him.
 

Alukard

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No one gives a ****.
werd ...

although **** talk is the only thing that makes tristate want to pick up a controller ...

i dare u to **** talk HBK,hazz,reno,myself,djn,hax,vanz,ANY DA member lmao or any other old school player... u'll see wat i'm talking about lmfao


(i just made a hell of a name search post)
 

July

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I think we are here so that melee can thrive, correct? I'm going to do this for the community, not for me. I even will work towards entering my own crew into the tournament (and myself) [we'd rotate staff] so that they (AND ME LOL) can have fun while they and me are also helping others have fun. : D

I also am thinking of either delegating any extra money to the church (where I will be hosting at) or as a donation to some organization that would need it, like save the puppies. : ]

I'd let everyone know that, of course.
Yes, deff want to support everyone having fun, including you Ran ;pp

OMG you have no idea how much I would love for future money to go to something like saving the puppies <3 (well, you might since I've talked about saving the blind kitties a lot) but anyways, deff think giving some money to charities= awesome idea

Also, I really liked the amateur bracket thing, definitely know a lot of people in Philly (and in my campus alone) who would really benefit from the structure because they want to get better and have fun but are very hesitant about price.
 

Heart Break Kid

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I wish I could remember what made 2 and 3 so successful. I guess I'll have to look into it...
Well I dnt like to toot my own horn but uhh *toot toot*. If you look closely you'll see that HBK attended 2 Saffrons...numbers 2 and 3. And since everyone loves HBK everyone comes to see him, plain and simple.

Mass and Maine are both gettin pretty beast lately though we'll be giving you guys a run for your money soon ;)
LOL is that some kinda inside joke...tristate doesnt get it :confused:

No one gives a ****.
My thoughts in simpler words, lol I wish I had the time to make the drive out there evrynow and then to chill.

werd ...

although **** talk is the only thing that makes tristate want to pick up a controller ...

i dare u to **** talk HBK,hazz,reno,myself,djn,hax,vanz,ANY DA member lmao or any other old school player... u'll see wat i'm talking about lmfao


(i just made a hell of a name search post)
I cnt even namesearch cuz my name is 3 letters. Just in case Reno misses it though R3no r3n0 REN0. Why do you keep denying the invite on xbox live? scared to get scraped in some SF? dnt wrry I'll take it easy on you

Hazz out...:chuckle:
 

MattDotZeb

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werd ...

although **** talk is the only thing that makes tristate want to pick up a controller ...

i dare u to **** talk HBK,hazz,reno,myself,djn,hax,vanz,ANY DA member lmao or any other old school player... u'll see wat i'm talking about lmfao


(i just made a hell of a name search post)
Hazz, You, and DJN are gonna be the first to fall.


Just sayin'. <3



(Can't we go back to rivaling WC instead of each other? That rivalry was fun lol)
 

SwiftBass

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maybe you could designate 6-8 pros that actually care and play different chars, maybe just off top of my head ppl that seem nice and helpful:

eggm
brian
swift
hailey
hbk
d1
me
djn


idk ppl like that, that are friendly and knowledgable about the game.

also how did they determine who was too "pro" to be in amateur bracket? also i think there should just be an amatuer tournament as a side event instead of teams maybe, like i know sometimes im more likely to go to a tourney if jman/vanz/ chops arent going i just feel like i can be more competitive.

is there even an updated power ranking for tristate? i feel like were so inactive... btw super dumb question, whats the 3rd state in tristate?

and sry for talking about these things in ur thread just not sure where it would go and be relevant to tristate.
lol im pro.


looks like I have some reading to do. appears that the tread got intense.

I made a post in me/matts tourney thread about amatuer bracket. I love the game so much that I rly dun care what goes down at no johns. Ima be showing up anyways, but yeah I dun like the idea of AM brackets at locals.

I'd only be ALL FOR AM brackets if there was some HUGE increase in participants at tourneys, which I dun see happening, but even then....what are we playing for? Would there be some super DA / SWAT / NINJATURTLES revival at a no johns because they didnt have to worry about jman coming and winning or being taken out by my marth round 1 in bracket?.


I rather have the people that really want to play and learn come even if its smaller or whatever. gotta ask yourself sometimes....what am I playing for?
 

Alukard

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i know wat i'm playing for ... seriously have u seen my samus?! especially recently ... thats all i've been playing is samus and sheik (cuz mr fantastic as me and wes like to call the tiara wearing homosexual)

i just really really want to keep this game alive ... no ****ing game out there has things happening like a melee doubles match... seriously its too ****ing good !!!!

i just dont like crismas all sad =[

i dont like anyone sad ... especially with our beast community ... THERE SHOULDNT BE!!!! <3



*end love*




matt get that crap outta here ... we'd pee on ya with our secondaries LAWL!


*end **** talk*
 

crismas

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=/ being sick this weekend didn't help my mood either blahhh :(. I'm gonna make a post later on my thoughts and suggestions to everyone. I feel the same way you do Alu, I just want the community to thrive.
 

Alukard

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=/ being sick this weekend didn't help my mood either blahhh :(. I'm gonna make a post later on my thoughts and suggestions to everyone. I feel the same way you do alu, i just want the community to thrive.
<3333333 =]
 

MattDotZeb

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well we are going to have to see last time we played i JV 4 stocked u with fox in tourney LOL
True, and it's not as if I was playing all my tournament matches like friendlies that day ;)

Trust me you wont be able to do that again unless I have another day like that haha
 

Cia

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Tristates three states are NY/NJ/PA. PA is dead right now.

There is no PR, and there probably should be one that is updated regularly. I guess no one really cares/is lazy tho.

/ninjaed
We probably should update the PR soon. HBK kinda spearheaded the PR last time but he's been really inactive as of late. I'll probably get a team started to work on it. D:
 

ranmaru

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We probably should update the PR soon. HBK kinda spearheaded the PR last time but he's been really inactive as of late. I'll probably get a team started to work on it. D:
I wanna see one for PA melee <3
 

Nø Ca$h

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i always preform terribly in tourny, bobby/matt cant go to tournaments often, jon mains sheik so he naturally doesnt care, and.. well you main doc XP
 

SwiftBass

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yo we should have a local with only secondaries. ****in tec0 and vanz would win dat **** but it'd be cool to see some matches. brian would have an adv. cuz he doesnt main anyone so would DJ. I'd like to see Hazz, HBk, eggm, chopz, and hax pull out secondaries.

we should soooooooooo do that one no johns. be on some gods garden **** and pick one non-main to play as the whole time. it'd be fun to experiment with I think.
 

SwiftBass

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That sounds awesome :)

I'm guessing we're just restricted to not picking our main?
yea the whole gods garden one char thingy would suck now that i think of it.


i think d1 would be realy good at it too.

jaden should be restricted from using peach and puff =). then we'd see the shiek........**** we cant win XD
 

DJ Nintendo

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Hazz, You, and DJN are gonna be the first to fall.


Just sayin'. <3



(Can't we go back to rivaling WC instead of each other? That rivalry was fun lol)
I would fall to **** talk? I don't understand. I definitely don't give a **** and that doesn't affect me at all. When it comes to pulling out secondaries against you like Alukard said, the last time we played I beat you 2-0 in tournament at ROM2 with my Doc. He's one of my many secondaries. So yeah.

yo we should have a local with only secondaries. ****in tec0 and vanz would win dat **** but it'd be cool to see some matches. brian would have an adv. cuz he doesnt main anyone so would DJ. I'd like to see Hazz, HBk, eggm, chopz, and hax pull out secondaries.

we should soooooooooo do that one no johns. be on some gods garden **** and pick one non-main to play as the whole time. it'd be fun to experiment with I think.
I'll try my best to win a secondaries tournament. I have like a million secondaries but its whatever.

I'm down to be one of the coach's for the amatuer bracket as I already been offering and giving out my vast knowledge on the game to mad people for years. So its nothing new for me.
 

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For those saying that there was a tourney every week.

September we had only had, No Johns Alu's Bday, and DIP.

October we're only having what Saffron and No Johns, and Tunes Biweekly.

Regardless of there being mad tournies, just attend what you can and blah.

Don't fault tourney hosts for hosting a tourney. Cuz depending on where the tourney is, you get a different crowd. Not everyone can go to Tunes/Saffron/No Johns/DIP so if they host 'em don't rage @ 'em...just don't go LOL.
 

MattDotZeb

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I would fall to **** talk? I don't understand. I definitely don't give a **** and that doesn't affect me at all. When it comes to pulling out secondaries against you like Alukard said, the last time we played I beat you 2-0 in tournament at ROM2 with my Doc. He's one of my many secondaries. So yeah.
Not like lambchops was behind you **** talking the entire time and me already being bummed about Scar seeding me wrong and having me play Mango first round due to the fact that he didn't acknowledge we both got 1st seed in our R2 pools.

Also I was talking about that we'd beat you, not that you'd fall to **** talk.
That doesn't even make any sense lol


But yeah. You, Hazz, and Alu are my targets (for now). I always have fun playing you 3. I know other NE players wanna beat you guys (referring to all of tri-state here) too.
This is a competitive scene after all ;)
Be flattered we wanna be better than you because you're all ****ing amazing <3
 

Eggm

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For those saying that there was a tourney every week.

September we had only had, No Johns Alu's Bday, and DIP.

October we're only having what Saffron and No Johns, and Tunes Biweekly.

Regardless of there being mad tournies, just attend what you can and blah.

Don't fault tourney hosts for hosting a tourney. Cuz depending on where the tourney is, you get a different crowd. Not everyone can go to Tunes/Saffron/No Johns/DIP so if they host 'em don't rage @ 'em...just don't go LOL.
This is exactly how I feel. If theres mad tournies I don't understand why people feel "pressure" to attend all of them. Just go to what you can. I would think you would feel less pressure knowing if you miss it theres another one next week instead of next month. If tristate only had 1 tournament a month and you happen to have a big test to study for that weekend (tec0) or did get sick like me crismas and others your out melee for 2 months. If it were like that i'd quit. The problem with tristate is that there just aren't that many of us period. We need new players.

And as far as getting new players having new tournaments in different parts of tristate help that. I went through all my past tournament results to look at all the players who attended Tunes whom I haven't seen before.

17: Noise
17: DGOscar
13. MKF
13. H3aderon
13. JFLO
13. Andy
17. Zack
13. Yuri
9: SandS
13: Fearless
17. SAWW
13. OH.
7. Moo
9. Bbad
13: Rin
13: Shoopman
17: lefty
17: Leap year

Those are like the first time I saw a lot of those players. Just cause I hosted my tournaments. Its way closer than anything else for people like Rin (a PA driver those are invaluable) Jflo, oh., Mr. F and his brother and others. Shoopman wasn't allowed at tournaments before he went to one of mine and now hes a pretty active memeber like jflo he went to apex probably cause of Tunes biweeklies. Having more tournaments helps the community ESP in different areas. Sure a lot of those players don't regularly come to tournaments anymore or since but, that's the real problem we need to address. If anytime a new TO opens up a tourney in a different area hes bound to get new melee players. We gotta figure out how to make them stay. Then the community will really grow. And i'm sure another TO for his tournament series could make the same argument and look through his past results and find players who really only come to his tournaments. I just used mine as an example since the results were so easily available. I do'nt even like to host. I do it under pressure from people around my area asking me a lot. Its a lot of work for no profit (unless I win). I also pay into my own tournaments (except venue fee).

I really don't know why Crismas felt so hurt and stuff. Me and alukard have both had multiple turnouts similar to that. Its just the way tristate is. I think amateur brackets the way plank is doing it for pound 4 is the best solution for making the newer players stay who give the game a shot like I listed above. Planks method is like you do pools and then whoever doesn't make it out can pay 5$ to be in the amateur bracket where only those who didn't make it out of pools can enter. That way it doesn't affect the pot for the regular bracket and still the newer players get to play amongst themselves for some extra money and that could make it more fun for them. If we don't do pools or have time you make the cut off at a certain placing on the bracket for the 5$ buy back in.

If you do it the other way the people who are pros get screwed in pot size and won't come as often. this makes less exciting finals to watch for new players and just less hype. If you do it planks way the amateurs have to pay 5$ extra but from what I hear after tournaments newer players are always like.. **** i got ***** by 2 good players I wish I coulda played "X" or "y" player x or y being a player who is also pretty new around their same skill level. And this way they can play those people in tournament setting for money without the possibility of some super pro knocking them out right before they could have. Seems really fun. I wish I had that when I was an amateur.

Getting ***** 2-0 then having to wait a week to play some one in tournament again isn't all that fun. But going through pools then another amateur bracket is more fulfilling and will make them want to come next week and they will also probably improve faster too, which is also good cause the skill gap is another thing keeping new players away.

Gotta go more later.
 

crismas

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I'm gonna keep saying that it wasn't JUST the low turnout that made me upset. Saffron's have had 15 entrants and I didn't care all that much. If you guys wanna keep thinking that was it and only it, then w/e. I give up trying to explain it.

I think the secondaries tourny idea sounds like a fun idea!

PS: thanks for your thoughts Eggm.

I want everyone to tell me how they feel about tournaments lately in general (locals). Do you even feel hyped going to a local? What do people wish they had more of?

The thought came across yesterday of lowering prices on everything. I'm not sure that's really going to attract more people, but how does everyone feel about the pricing in general anyone (not even just for Saffrons)?

I still need to get a chance to put my thoughts together but I wanna talk to a lot of ppl (TO's) from the area to get some good feedback on solutions to make all of our tournies better.
 

Niko45

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I agree locals are the only way to grow the scene. If you're bad and, say, from LI you're not going to trek to Jersey or No Johns just to play 4 matches.

I still don't understand why all tristate tourneys are not doing seeding pools. That way you get your money's worth instead of 4 matches and dunzo, plus everyone gets a chance to "warm up" in a more competitive format than just friendlies.

Seeing Hax play fox or something is cool and all for the sake of seeing how the style translates across characters, but I'm not about to set my alarm for that. Dedicating a Saturday to an actual secondary tournament seems kinda lame to me, unless you can somehow sidebar it during a regular tournament, which it doesn't really seem like there is ever time for.

Running an amateur bracket is fine, but I just think pools would help people improve much faster because they get to play lots of challenging matches before they even have to get 0-2'd in tourney, building up that experience much faster than they otherwise would be able to. I mean, nobody really wants to talk about this, but the bad players need to play the good players to get better and its hard to gain access to the good players cause they really have no motivation to make you better and are obviously attending the tourney to see how they are stacking up against the other good players. It's not anybody's fault really it's just how it is naturally so pools just kinda ensures that the new players gain some decent experience.
 
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