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Rule #2: Never listen to Fino +1

DtJ Hilt

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Are you going to be using MK? There isn't much to give you for advice, haha. You're much, much better than most people going to their first tournament. Make sure you get plenty of sleep. Caffeine isn't a good idea, it messes up your hand eye coordination, although some people are fine with it. Make sure to get there early so you can get plenty of friendlies beforehand so you can be use to offline timing as much as pobble. Other than that you should be good XD.

Good luck jules!
 

Jiom

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Thanks a lot guys =] and yes hilt, I'm going olimar/metaknight. I am planning on going there early and don't forget hilt, I do play offline, but only with friends who are melee gods. I can keep you guys updated to :) even though its a small tourny lol
 

fromundaman

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I read the title, and I have come.

By the way, I swear, every board's "last post" is always in a GD it seems.
 

-Vocal-

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Dajayman, how unexpected to see you here, I'm pretty surprised that you haven't posted a Ga-gif yet.

Anywho, good luck Jules, I'm sure you'll do fine :)
 

Sky Pirate

The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
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That's because boards never do any actual game discussion, fromundaman.
They put up match-up and stage discussion threads to make it look like they're doing something important.
 

-Vocal-

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Happy 4th of July Olimars! (The American ones anyways [sorry Tin Man ;P]) May your stomachs be engorged with charbroiled delights and your skies shine bright with explosions of liberty :)
 

Jiom

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Thanks Vocal, you to :D hope you have a happy 4th of July! All you other american olimars to ^^

To celebrate let's all play distant planet and only fight on bulborbs!

edit: and oh happy belated canada day canadian olimars! hope you had fun!
 

Jiom

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Should change the title to say if you are reading this get in the olimar chat.
 

Dajayman

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So yeah, I've decided to use Olimar more frequently. I could use any good general advice for general gameplay. Also I could really use advice on how to recover and prevent myself from being gimped.
 

Jane

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just grab and pivot grab a lot and you should be a-ok!

and you just have to improve your DI so you always have to recover high
 

Dajayman

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Usually my DI is good, it's just that sometimes I noticed if I wiff a dtilt/dsmash/dair/dwhatever and get countered I DI down by accident, but luckily those are rare occurrences.
 

-Vocal-

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So yeah, I've decided to use Olimar more frequently. I could use any good general advice for general gameplay. Also I could really use advice on how to recover and prevent myself from being gimped.
Hilt will probably give you a wall of text to read tomorrow lol, but I can give a few tips for the moment.

1. When recovering, SAVE YOUR SECOND JUMP. Weruop taught me this rule well; if you use your second jump too early, it becomes A LOT easier for your opponent to knock you back out and edgehog you, and then you're down a stock. It's usually best to save your second jump for as long as possible. That way, in the case that your opponent does hit you again, you stand more of a fighting chance. If their move hits you upwards, then they've helped; if it doesn't, then you've still got your second jump to help you.

2. When recovering, BE UNPREDICTABLE. If your opponent knows how you're going to try to recover, he's one step further to gimping you. Although Olimar's recovery does suck, you have a number of tools to mix up your recovery. Of course you can tether the edge after a second jump, but most people will expect this. You can whistle through attacks and then tether. You can use the upward boost from tether to land on the stage as opposed to grabbing the ledge. You can whistle an attack then come back with an attack of your own (dangerous, but pays off well if you pull it off). These are just a couple options; try to be creative each time and keep your opponent guessing.

3. When recovering (after this I'll move on lol), the ledge is a pretty crappy place to be. Olimar doesn't have many good options here, but it's still important to know what those options are if you're going to get back on the stage. A very basic tool on the ledge is uair; on stages where you can go under the lip of the stage (FD, PS1, Lylat, etc.) the hitbox is large enough to reach characters standing above it. Better players who know the Olimar matchup will know this and avoid it, but you can still occasionally catch them with it, and inexperienced players will run into it often. Other options include getup attack (really sh***y unless you know your opponent will run into it and not shield); ledgehopped fair (I think that's the right term, where you drop down and immediately second jump); ledge jump whistle; ledge jump dair; ledge jump nair; or just jumping off, latching a pikmin or two onto your opponent and regrabbing the ledge (useful for keeping him/her guessing). Oh, and how could I forget: one of your best options is ledgehopped purple side-b - if your opponent isn't suspecting it, it'll knock them right out of the way and give you a chance to get to a better position.

4. Learn your pivot grabs, because there are three variations. In the first, you pivot grab and maintain momentum in the direction you were moving; in the second, you pivot and then dash grab back in the direction you came from; the third is somewhere between these two. They all have their uses.

5. One of the most important things about playing Olimar: always remain aware of which pikmin are next in your line. Every pikmin has its own best use, and by knowing which pikmin is next you will know how to use it most efficiently. I usually try to just keep track of the next three, but if you can do more then more power to you.

*The Section Where I Push My Agenda*

6. Use dtilt. It's a good move :) Really, at mid-high percents it pops up opponents to be juggled, and it moves Olimar to a different position and he dodges attacks sometimes as a result. Use dtilt :)

Oh yea, and 7. If you aren't already, hyphen smash. Possibly Olimar's greatest kill tool :)

That's enough for now, hope that isn't more than what you were asking for lol
 

Dnyce

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1. Throw more pikminz

2. Pivot Grab moar

3. Learn to WAC

4. Dun get grabbed D:

5. Don't play homolimar

If all else fails...

6. CP METAKNIGHT~!





tl;dr: METAKNIGHT~!



:shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy:
 

-Vocal-

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1. Throw more pikminz

2. Pivot Grab moar

3. Learn to WAC

4. Dun get grabbed D:

5. Don't play homolimar

If all else fails...

6. CP METAKNIGHT~!





tl;dr: METAKNIGHT~!



:shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy: :shyguy:
Dontcha just love how Metaknight is the answer to everything?

I hope Diddy passes him on the tier list some day. That is, if we don't ban him first (I'd die of joy)
 

Jane

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lol, diddy will NEVER pass mk on the tier list. no one ever will, ever.


and to answer your question as to why my name is jane, its a long, dumb story but basically it involves three friends of mine. one name connor, one named bryan, and one named jonny (me). one day, whilst on AIM, bryan intended to call connor "cnr", to abbreviate his name, but instead said "crn". we all lold and decided to call connor "corn" since thats what "crn" implied. then we decided to create "bnr" for bryan and "jyn" for me. for some reason we pronounced bnr as "brin" and jyn as "jane"

this was about 4 years ago. the names stuck, as even people outside of our circle of close friends started calling us these names (corn, brin, and jane) and ive used it as my tag for any games ive played ever since. :D
 

-Vocal-

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lol, diddy will NEVER pass mk on the tier list. no one ever will, ever.


and to answer your question as to why my name is jane, its a long, dumb story but basically it involves three friends of mine. one name connor, one named bryan, and one named jonny (me). one day, whilst on AIM, bryan intended to call connor "cnr", to abbreviate his name, but instead said "crn". we all lold and decided to call connor "corn" since thats what "crn" implied. then we decided to create "bnr" for bryan and "jyn" for me. for some reason we pronounced bnr as "brin" and jyn as "jane"

this was about 4 years ago. the names stuck, as even people outside of our circle of close friends started calling us these names (corn, brin, and jane) and ive used it as my tag for any games ive played ever since. :D
Ah, now I know :)

And I know Diddy will never pass MK. It's nice to have dreams though D:

Ban MK.
 

Sky Pirate

The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
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If this thread is going to have a boring name, at least give it the full name.
"Metaknight Social Thread"
 

-Vocal-

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If this thread is going to have a boring name, at least give it the full name.
"Metaknight Social Thread"
The day that becomes the name is the day I hunt down our Oli mods and force them to kill each other. But since it hasn't LUV YU GAIZ!!!!!1ONEone <3

What the hell Drac :( Why'd you change the name

Fixed it!

+1
Lol I like it better like this :)



+1 post count =D

Whistle Armor... Cancel @.@

lol
Lol what he means is no one knows what it's cancelling, momentum I guess. I figured you'd already know about it; WAC refers to the super armor frames on Olimar's Whistle attack. I forget the specifics, but I think it's something like frame 2-19, and though Olimar takes damage he receives absolutely no knockback. This is why the whistle is so important for recovery; it keeps you from getting knocked further away from the stage.

And finally, I just came from a fireworks show. Aren't Independence Day fireworks fantastic? They're like a huge, sparkling middle finger to Britain :laugh:
 

Asa

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can we rename WAC to rainbow shield?

we need to yell "rainbow shield" every time we connect a WAC


excited to see my fellow oli mains tuesday :D
 
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