6Mizu
Smash Champion
Hey guys can ROB do anything to MK's air release?
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ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!
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GwJ
Smash Hero
ROB has one combo on MK from a grab release.
Air release>Run away
That's my favorite.
Air release>Run away
That's my favorite.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Cool! Sounds awesome......
Can you teach me how?
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
does rob have any grab release stuff besides wario? which isnt even guaranteed lawlzlolol
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Sudai
Stuff here
I found a rare spot for a forced Grab Release on Wario. Got it in a friendly (played 3, then got bored XD) and it's on PS1. Rock formation, the little slant to the right on the bottom. Sets up low enough for USmash. lol Won a game because of that.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
what exactly do we have on Ness & Lucas?Yes, on Ness and Lucas.
Which kinda sucks for them.
would this work for other characters vs Wario?
(like Pit, MK, etc?)
Sudai
Stuff here
Most likely.
What do you think of ROB's viability as a secondary to D3? He seems to cover the Pikachu and Ice Climbers reasonably well, as well as a few others. I've been having trouble deciding upon a good secondary for my D3 (don't say MK 
), and ROB seems to pick him up nicely.
), and ROB seems to pick him up nicely.
Actually Meta Knight is the worst secondary for everyone because he will become better than your main. Using ROB as a secondary, your problems will be Meta Knight, Olimar and Falco.
Olimar and Falco don't have any big advantage over ROB, but those are matchups which the 55-45 is almost a 60-40. So, ROB is overall a good secondary for DDD mainers, but you will continue having some characters that might give a hard time dealing with(the ones I mentioned).
Olimar and Falco don't have any big advantage over ROB, but those are matchups which the 55-45 is almost a 60-40. So, ROB is overall a good secondary for DDD mainers, but you will continue having some characters that might give a hard time dealing with(the ones I mentioned).
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Olimar and Falco are both either even or close enough it doesn't matter with ROB tbh...MK still sucks but ehh what can you do @.@
True statement about Metaknight is true.
Yea, I usually don't have much trouble with Olimar as D3 really, and anyone is gonna have trouble with MK pretty much. It's really the ICs MU and Pikachu MU I probably need the most help with. Thanks!
Silhouette
Smash Lord
Your advantages on the ICs are to outcamp them, make them approach, then Dsmash and separate them, you have the option of air and ledge camping, watch out for blizzard.
just in case you were wondering.
can anyone give me an in-depth rundown of ROBs vs. pikachu?
Yea, I've been creeping on these boards and reading some of the stuff. ROB is probably one of the best characters at separating the ICs, and is also good at his offstage game after he has them separated, which is the perfect formula for beating those eskimos. In addition, he can stay away from their grabs, like you said, with his amazing projectile game and uber campy-style. Thanks for teh tippzorz! =)
If you have problems mainly against IC and Pikachu, ROB's nice as a secondary. Against Pikachu, I like to camp, watching for his Neutral Bs(by power shielding). You can't be chain grabbed, but being in close range might not be so safe because Pikachu has some great fast attacks such as Uair and Fair that can give you a little trouble, and some good set tups with Utilt(> Uair > juggling stuff) and Dthrow[> Nair or Usmash(low %)]. Stop his QAC by either using Dsmash, or jump and Nairing.
Edit1: DDD's worst matchups according to his boards:
Ice Climber 65-35
Falco 65-35
Pikachu 65-35
Olimar 60-40
Meta Knight 60-40
Edit2: You're right, Stingers. They are even, but among our even matchups, I consider Olimar and Falco being our worst ones(personal opinion).
Edit1: DDD's worst matchups according to his boards:
Ice Climber 65-35
Falco 65-35
Pikachu 65-35
Olimar 60-40
Meta Knight 60-40
Edit2: You're right, Stingers. They are even, but among our even matchups, I consider Olimar and Falco being our worst ones(personal opinion).
RogueThunder
Smash Rookie
Sup ROB boards, I'm just starting to main the robot and while watching some replays of HolyNightmare's ROB, I came across this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6K2H1SANLg&feature=related
Check it out, Holy opens with a >b which covers 3/4 of FD and I can't figure out how he did it or find the technique in any of the guides. Anyone know how to do that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6K2H1SANLg&feature=related
Check it out, Holy opens with a >b which covers 3/4 of FD and I can't figure out how he did it or find the technique in any of the guides. Anyone know how to do that?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
thats brawl+ haha. it's a brawl hack
RogueThunder
Smash Rookie
Ah, so not possible I take it. I thought brawl+ didn't mess with things like that, but I haven't played it so who am I to talk
stingers
Smash Obsessed
yeah you can only do it in brawl+. its not in vBrawl
Sudai
Stuff here
It was an accidental side effect in B+ but they kept it.
GwJ
Smash Hero
You're thinking of BBrawl.
Mister Eric
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I would say that although I'm pretty sure with all the air releases I posted about in the Air Release thread, that none of them have follow-ups where you can make contact without it being prevented. But, I do believe the idea of eating a second jump, especially when the character is near the edge of a stage and is pretty gimpable, then you do have a pretty good gimping opportunity.
Sooooo if you count that.
ComradeSnake
Smash Cadet
I am a disgruntled snake main picking up rob. My question is:
How much should you use ROB's spotdodge and roll.
From what I can tell from 1 tournament of ROB play, as good as spotdodge->dsmash is do it to much and you get punished. And roll is not that good unless used for glide toss. Just checking if any of this is true.
Other question:
I am used to playing snake, and as such am having problems avoiding projectiles (Specifically falco lolzers) because I am used to just ducking, baiting a side-b and f-tilt punishing. How do you either out-camp campy players using campy characters or work around stuff like lolzer and tjolt spam?
Oh, and ROB is fun ^^
beepbeep!
How much should you use ROB's spotdodge and roll.
From what I can tell from 1 tournament of ROB play, as good as spotdodge->dsmash is do it to much and you get punished. And roll is not that good unless used for glide toss. Just checking if any of this is true.
Other question:
I am used to playing snake, and as such am having problems avoiding projectiles (Specifically falco lolzers) because I am used to just ducking, baiting a side-b and f-tilt punishing. How do you either out-camp campy players using campy characters or work around stuff like lolzer and tjolt spam?
Oh, and ROB is fun ^^
beepbeep!
weeelll... you will quickly find that rob is a really, really big target for projectiles... even though his game heavily relies on his sweet projectiles, characters like falco and toon link out do him by a long shot in this category, yer gonna need to learn to powershield and time your dash->shield->grab... tjolt you can just drop a top inbetween you and it will negate it...
dodge-dsmash is indeed good, but it absolutely isn't safe... dodge is amazing though... dodge-grab, dodge-jab, dodge-walk away (lol) are all viable (my favourite is dodge sh retreating nair) .. but if it's going to hit for sure, throw out that dsmash
dodge-dsmash is indeed good, but it absolutely isn't safe... dodge is amazing though... dodge-grab, dodge-jab, dodge-walk away (lol) are all viable (my favourite is dodge sh retreating nair) .. but if it's going to hit for sure, throw out that dsmash
Dsmash is a great "GTFO" move. But definately don't overuse it, it canbe DIed out of. I mostly use it when they are too close and I need space to spam projectiles.
And the previous poster has it, dodge dodge dodge, lol. ROB is like "look at me wave my arms and dance!" then he pwns you as you stand in awe.
Also, learning to powershield is great for ANY character you play; get it down. The way I learnd: play a good TL or Link who is constantly keeping you at bay with projectiles and learn to run in and PS anything they throw at you. Just keep playing and it will come. After playing with one TL ALOT at a tourny one weekend, my PSing improved exponentially. It works. Just practice.
And the previous poster has it, dodge dodge dodge, lol. ROB is like "look at me wave my arms and dance!" then he pwns you as you stand in awe.
Also, learning to powershield is great for ANY character you play; get it down. The way I learnd: play a good TL or Link who is constantly keeping you at bay with projectiles and learn to run in and PS anything they throw at you. Just keep playing and it will come. After playing with one TL ALOT at a tourny one weekend, my PSing improved exponentially. It works. Just practice.
ComradeSnake
Smash Cadet
I am decent at powershielding but my main problem there lies in the fact that my tv has just a bit of lag. Barely noticeable but screws up my powershielding because I practice with a bit of lag then go to a tournament and have none : /
And I was not just asking about the spotdodge. How bad/good is his roll? I was just wondering because Lurcarios roll is rediculous and I never hear talk about rolling any other time I have no idea how other characters are in that respect. (Granted, in my experience rolls lead to f-tilts and down smashes)
And I was not just asking about the spotdodge. How bad/good is his roll? I was just wondering because Lurcarios roll is rediculous and I never hear talk about rolling any other time I have no idea how other characters are in that respect. (Granted, in my experience rolls lead to f-tilts and down smashes)
Sudai
Stuff here
Don't roll with ROB. You have better OoS options 95% of the time.
As for the powershielding thing, you can probably find a decent CRT on EBay if you really want a lagless TV to practice on.
As for the powershielding thing, you can probably find a decent CRT on EBay if you really want a lagless TV to practice on.
If it's DIed, you can use Dsmash again. And if it's not, use Uair as a follow up. Dsmash is great when your oponent is in its range. You have some great options. Besides, it's a very good punisher when used Out of Shied, for example.
Sudai
Stuff here
Can also FSmash or DTilt if they SDI out of DSmash.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
i always just dsmash again. usually works 
Mr.E
Smash Lord
Whether or not the opponent can DI out of DSmash, they can't actually punish you for it. If it's the only thing you can catch them with OoS (being our fastest option besides Jab), then you do it.
RogueThunder
Smash Rookie
Can someone explain how to soft toss glide toss? I can't find any info anywhere -_-
stingers
Smash Obsessed
just hit A slower
RogueThunder
Smash Rookie
ooook, I don't use a to glide toss, I usually cstick, but I'll try it. Thanks
Sudai
Stuff here
Then just CStick later.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
couldn't of put it better myself
BoTastic!
Smash Master
Up- Stronger
Down- Weaker
Speed doesn't change.
I'm not sure about knockback but I'm sure its always the same.
Down- Weaker
Speed doesn't change.
I'm not sure about knockback but I'm sure its always the same.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
No, not that I know of at least. It makes no difference.
BTW, my theory on F-smash is don't do it just straight forwards...angling it will help you get a kill...believe me.
EDIT: No speed change is what I meant from that. ^
BTW, my theory on F-smash is don't do it just straight forwards...angling it will help you get a kill...believe me.
EDIT: No speed change is what I meant from that. ^