stingers
Smash Obsessed
dont ever take a kirby to picto...
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ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!
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xepherthree
Smash Ace
I told you I didn't know what I was talking about :D
Mr.E
Smash Lord
Just in case you didn't know, Sudai, you do get a free DAir if he swallows you to take the Laser. It's not all bad!
Sudai
Stuff here
Still. A DAir when he's even 17% ahead isn't going to do much so long as he gets away and dodges your first gyro/laser.
CJTHeroofTime
Smash Lord
I don't think I'd mind Kirby at Picto, the worst hes got is that stone glitch on the edge, but thats nothin.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
Lol sounds like Kirby match up discussion, what neutral stage is worst against Kirby, battlefeild?
BF is probably the worst one. Yoshi's Island isn't really good for ROB IMO
stingers
Smash Obsessed
you know nothing. 
★J.G WentWorth★
Smash Champion
Yoshi's is pretty good for R.O.B. Just learn how to use all the curves on the stage to make your lasers bounce off in weird angles to catch your opponent off gaurdd.
BurtonEarny
Smash Ace
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Is there a general rob guide? the frame data is given which is nice and all, but a guide is always nice to have...
On the Kirby MU, i prefer Final Destination or Smashville as neutrals. In general, i don't like Yoshi's for not feeling comfortable there, especially because there isn't much off-stage part like FD and SV have. Besides, sometimes the ground's level ****s with my Gyro Game.
There's the Community Guide. Seach for it in the ROB Boards Directory(Sticky).BurtonEarny said:
Ask Deadweight lol or jut search for this Match-up discussion thread.PUNK9 said:
In short, Dsmash <3
Tin Man
Smash Hero
There is the R.O.B. community guide.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234286
Sudai, stickying this thread is a nice idea IMO ;D
Edit: Problem solved.
Sudai, stickying this thread is a nice idea IMO ;D
Edit: Problem solved.
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
As i said in the Match-up thread, i posted there. But IMO it isn't really necessary to post the same thing in 3 different threads >.>
GwJ
Smash Hero
I think there is, lemme do a quick test, I'll edit this post.
Damage:
The same
Hitboxes:
Same hitbox, just change to match the angle
Knockback:
All the same
tl;dr Only difference is how high or how low you can hit with the angle.
Damage:
The same
Hitboxes:
Same hitbox, just change to match the angle
Knockback:
All the same
tl;dr Only difference is how high or how low you can hit with the angle.
Thanks GwJ! Unfortunately, it wasn't what i expected :[
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So guys, boosting your first jump using the ROFLCopter is known, right?
GwJ
Smash Hero
Yep.
10yeps
10yeps
Sudai
Stuff here
Yeah, but why in the world would you do it?
GwJ
Smash Hero
You don't.
Mr.E
Smash Lord
Because Lucario is a character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
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I never said I would use it. XD
A1lion835
Smash Champion
Kirby vs ROB Stuff
Thanks for all the input, I'm sorry I wasn't here for so much. I was REALLY busy and haven't been able to really do anything on smashboards for a few days. /johns
On the topic of stages for Kirby vs R.O.B.:
I'd say PS1 is in Kirby's favor. Kirby can abuse the transformations pretty well. He has a jab and dtilt lock on rock transformation, stone glitch on forest transformation, on the floating platform to the right. Then dtilt semi-lock on the fire transformation, right side of the tree (he drifts down the slope a little), dtilt lock (I think) under the branch on the other side, upthrow kills when landing on the tree, branch makes final cutter (upb) a little quicker. And on the water transformation, he can uthrow kirbycide on the left side of the stage (if the upthrow ascent is stopped by part of the windmill). Windmill allows for fancy stone slides. He can abuse the edges well, if you get stuck under one of them, a dsmash stage spikes you, though it probably won't be a huge problem for R.O.B.
And on any part of the stage with walls, if Kirby's sword sort of sticks through a wall, the upb projectile will travel through the wall...it's sort of hard to explain, just pick Kirby, go up right against a wall, use upb and watch what happens.
So yea. PS1 is a pretty **** Kirby stage, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game on it, if not the best.
Other than PS1, I don't see anything else I disagree with. Thank you for the input ^_^
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Thanks for all the input, I'm sorry I wasn't here for so much. I was REALLY busy and haven't been able to really do anything on smashboards for a few days. /johns
On the topic of stages for Kirby vs R.O.B.:
I'd say PS1 is in Kirby's favor. Kirby can abuse the transformations pretty well. He has a jab and dtilt lock on rock transformation, stone glitch on forest transformation, on the floating platform to the right. Then dtilt semi-lock on the fire transformation, right side of the tree (he drifts down the slope a little), dtilt lock (I think) under the branch on the other side, upthrow kills when landing on the tree, branch makes final cutter (upb) a little quicker. And on the water transformation, he can uthrow kirbycide on the left side of the stage (if the upthrow ascent is stopped by part of the windmill). Windmill allows for fancy stone slides. He can abuse the edges well, if you get stuck under one of them, a dsmash stage spikes you, though it probably won't be a huge problem for R.O.B.
And on any part of the stage with walls, if Kirby's sword sort of sticks through a wall, the upb projectile will travel through the wall...it's sort of hard to explain, just pick Kirby, go up right against a wall, use upb and watch what happens.
So yea. PS1 is a pretty **** Kirby stage, Kirby is one of the best characters in the game on it, if not the best.
Other than PS1, I don't see anything else I disagree with. Thank you for the input ^_^
.IMO Zamus is better... and I agree with the rest of your post ^.-
Tin Man
Smash Hero
Well you are a ROB main "TheMike" therefore it may seem like Zamus is the best on that stage to you because of the match up.
Well, there's a very good Zamus player near my city and he always do good stuff on PS1. Not only against me... but yeah lol ^-^
Pink murder
Smash Ace
Boy do I feel out of place. But o.k, here goes.
Do you guys have any tips on a R.O.B Vs. IC's match up?
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GwJ
Smash Hero
Camp.
Use attacks that seperate them like Nair and Dsmash, but use them wisely as a whiffed one or blocked will result in a grab most of the time.
Use attacks that seperate them like Nair and Dsmash, but use them wisely as a whiffed one or blocked will result in a grab most of the time.
Pink murder
Smash Ace
Got it, thanks
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fair, up-b then rising bair, the top, lazer, jabs, and throws... this should be your bread and butter vs. ics... also, the matchup is at most 55/45 for rob...
never use any move with any kind of lag... lol... freaking Swordguard used the lag of me hitting his nana with nair to grab me with popo for the KO... so annoying
never use any move with any kind of lag... lol... freaking Swordguard used the lag of me hitting his nana with nair to grab me with popo for the KO... so annoying
Pink murder
Smash Ace
So you're saying NO smashes? How should I go in for the kill then.
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Dsmash so as to separate them. For kills, use Fsmash as a punisher. Bair is also great because it has a great knock back that take them off-stage, where you should try to go as since Nana is dead, SoPo doesn't survive off-stage.
Pink murder
Smash Ace
Ok, got it. This should help a lot, thanks for the help!
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don't use dsmash more than 2-3 times a stock... if they block it, you lose a stock...
for KO-ing, it's basically all gimps... grab one, throw away, go after nana, try to gimp her... if not, go straight for popo... the best situation for you is when you have one on either side of you
for KO-ing, it's basically all gimps... grab one, throw away, go after nana, try to gimp her... if not, go straight for popo... the best situation for you is when you have one on either side of you
GwJ
Smash Hero
The way I play it, is I just seperate Nana to do it, not necessarily for gimps. After i seperate them, I go for Popo while he's trying to reunite and rinse and repeat until I kill. Gimps are thrown in as side-salads when the opportunity arises.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
grab popo, and jab so nana can't do much, then d smash nana and try to Nair gimp her (repetedly uing Nair's till she goes high enough of the stage to die from the seiling, I agree with Bueno B's matchup rating.