Not all the time, that completely has to do with controller port. Lower Port # will get hit. Not always a good idea.
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ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!
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dettadeus
Smash Lord
So then you just have to make sure your partner gets the highest controller port, right?
Mister Eric
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CJTHeroofTime
Smash Lord
I'm in Albany, NY
Basically but people fight over port priority. That's why there is a rule in the unity ruleset about discussing Rock Paper Scissors to decide who gets PP.
Yes, but I don't want to damage my teammate and potentially put them in a worse situation. When I could simply get there in time to punish the person grabbing them. Not a good thing to do every time. You have to think of the options your opponents have rather than just trying to save your partner from what you think is danger.
LOL ^^^
Basically if you have a higher Port #, you have PP over them. 2 over 1, 3 over 2, and 4 over all.
If you have PP, then when a move attacks both players in a grab situation, the person with PP will stay, and remain untouched, while the person without PP, will get hit and break the grab.
For example, has it ever happened to you that a Snake D-Threw you while there was a Grenade, and the Grenade exploded and someone got hit, while the other was untouched and stayed on the ground???
That is why. I am pretty sure that is as far as PP goes, but I may be wrong. Look it up if you are curious. Don't claim to be things without proof.
Basically if you have a higher Port #, you have PP over them. 2 over 1, 3 over 2, and 4 over all.
If you have PP, then when a move attacks both players in a grab situation, the person with PP will stay, and remain untouched, while the person without PP, will get hit and break the grab.
For example, has it ever happened to you that a Snake D-Threw you while there was a Grenade, and the Grenade exploded and someone got hit, while the other was untouched and stayed on the ground???
That is why. I am pretty sure that is as far as PP goes, but I may be wrong. Look it up if you are curious. Don't claim to be things without proof.
dettadeus
Smash Lord
There's also the spawn locations and probably where you are seated in relation to your partner.
I kept hearing "And *insert tag*'s team starts with stage control, let's see what happens" during the APEX streams. Especially on BF because one team ends up with both players on a platform.
I kept hearing "And *insert tag*'s team starts with stage control, let's see what happens" during the APEX streams. Especially on BF because one team ends up with both players on a platform.
And where did you come from, stalker/lurker? Yeah that's why we had the rule 1 + 4 & 2 +3 in teams at our tournament so no, I obviously don't? So basically what you're saying is that you aren't a good player if you can't the controller port stuff? I've missed you -LzR-. <3
8Bitman; I understand it more now thanks, and I knew the higher the better. I just don't care about it much and that is a really dumb thing in Brawl, but rather that than pure luck if you ask me. One more thing, does both get damaged? I think it does, doesn't it?
So, with OCEAN beating M2K I hope more R.O.B.s learn that camping is not a good option and that M2K sucked badly in a MU he shouldn't lose, especially not from him LoL.
Sorry for double post!
What? I'm too tired to actually get it, sorry. Care to explain? D=
dettadeus
Smash Lord
The place where you spawn in a four-player match is determined by what port your controller is plugged into. On a flat place like SV or FD, player 1 starts at far left, then going right is 2, 3, and 4. I think BF has 1, 2, and 3 on platforms with 4 on the very bottom. I dunno how other stages work, since these are really the only stages I see doubles played on, lol.
And everyone agreed M2K was completely off his game against Ocean, IIRC.
Or he just wasn't playing right. He won game 2 because he brought it to time on Delfino or something.
If you look at how he was playing in Doubles, it's obvious how off-game he was because he made quite a few stupid mistakes and actually took Anti's last stock in the last game.
Just please stop saying that "aggro is the best way to play Brawl since approaching is safe and camping sucks" because it's anything but the truth. Rob has a terrible approach and you know it.
dettadeus; man, didn't know that. Thanks!
-LzR-; that wasn't what I said, lol the whole point of my comment was the fact that even R.O.B. can win if he approaches, you only misinterpret what I write (like all the times it seems). And no, R.O.B. can approach, it depends on the player, not on R.O.B.. You should not approach ZSS, DDD and ICs (Mk's quiestionable but it depends on the situation), but that's all IMO.
-LzR-; that wasn't what I said, lol the whole point of my comment was the fact that even R.O.B. can win if he approaches, you only misinterpret what I write (like all the times it seems). And no, R.O.B. can approach, it depends on the player, not on R.O.B.. You should not approach ZSS, DDD and ICs (Mk's quiestionable but it depends on the situation), but that's all IMO.
I was actually watching the entire replay of the Apex 2012 Ocean and M2K match, and I picked up a few pointers.
I've noticed that Ocean really uses his Bair for spacing, and that's obviously typical of ROB. However, I was wondering why he didn't decide to at least once approach here or there with an Fair. I've never played against a MK main, so I wouldn't know. Does MK have much more aerial priority against ROB's Fair? Ocean's strategy seemed almost too consistent, and it seemed that Ocean could have thrown M2K a bit off if he added a little non-projectile offense.
Additionally, why didn't Ocean abuse his Nair a bit more? I noticed a gigantic mistake of his in the last round where he could have ended the game about 20 seconds earlier if he had just thrown it in.
Is the Nair actually pretty punishable? I've seen a lot of tournament videos and I'm surprised that nobody desires to at least spam it along with the rest of the movepool.
I've noticed that Ocean really uses his Bair for spacing, and that's obviously typical of ROB. However, I was wondering why he didn't decide to at least once approach here or there with an Fair. I've never played against a MK main, so I wouldn't know. Does MK have much more aerial priority against ROB's Fair? Ocean's strategy seemed almost too consistent, and it seemed that Ocean could have thrown M2K a bit off if he added a little non-projectile offense.
Additionally, why didn't Ocean abuse his Nair a bit more? I noticed a gigantic mistake of his in the last round where he could have ended the game about 20 seconds earlier if he had just thrown it in.
Is the Nair actually pretty punishable? I've seen a lot of tournament videos and I'm surprised that nobody desires to at least spam it along with the rest of the movepool.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Tornado and Shuttle Loop eat both of those moves when timed properly, or in SL's case, whenever he feels like throwing it out. At least Bair spaces you away from Metaknight, which is a lot less risky, though you can still get punished for it. He also probably likes saving nair for kills, it's a pretty smart idea, but every MU is different, sometimes you need nair for spacing, and end up saving bair for kills.
Edit: Also fair is not a good approach against any tournament viable character, except maybe Falco.
Actually, approaching with ROB at all is not very good. (though Mister Eric would disagree) He's more of a space controlling character, keeping people away from him with projectiles and tilts.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
You use fair to punish, not approach.
Very few matchups can safely use fair as an approach. One off the top of my mind is Peach.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Don't fh fair...or you just get uaired x.x **** peach
OMFG Chibo is sooo right, Fair RRRAAAAPPPEEESSSS Peach.
Also guys, why are we talking about approaching these high tier characters??? R.O.B get GarbanzoBeaned if he approaches... (Don't know if that was a good verb, but I used it...) Fair has a lot of priority, but we get punished every time...
Also guys, why are we talking about approaching these high tier characters??? R.O.B get GarbanzoBeaned if he approaches... (Don't know if that was a good verb, but I used it...) Fair has a lot of priority, but we get punished every time...
That's what she said, drama queen. You seem complete bored, that even Jigglypuff on your avatar's happy.
I'm not going to argue if R.O.B. can or can't approach since it's pretty pointless. Adios!
Mister Eric
Twitch.tv/MisterbeepEric Twitter: @MisterbeepEric
I have a question for you specifically: why the hate on ccst all the time? It's annoying.
Because we are pals, we pick on each other all the time.
CJTHeroofTime
Smash Lord
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Best place to start with ROB, learn how good spotdodge d-smash is, but then stop using it because it's actually horrible.
Actually learn the different lengths of gyro charges and glide tosses. I know you have enough grasp of the game where you don't need to start with the little basics like proper punishing and stuff, that's pretty simple. Also, learn how to control up B while saving fuel (tapping B)
Actually learn the different lengths of gyro charges and glide tosses. I know you have enough grasp of the game where you don't need to start with the little basics like proper punishing and stuff, that's pretty simple. Also, learn how to control up B while saving fuel (tapping B)
We? How do you know that I think it's "friendly"? You do it while I defend myself, not that I take what you write that seriously or anything but that's a horrible excuse lol. Also, if you have a problem with me, take it personally like a pal instead of AWing like an idiot over Smashboards. Thank you!
I think I'm going to like it here XD
Oh I see. That changes everything.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
wtf...an oli main is picking up ROB...right as I'm picking up oli o.O
it cannot be coincidence...it must be fate
it cannot be coincidence...it must be fate
*movie theater voice*
Two Men
On a Mission
BY THEMSELVES
with the most broken characters
from japan?
lol, and yeah... it is weird. As long as we don't tell anyone we're banging c-sticks together, it'll be our own secret.
Thank you. We will be less annoying now.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
Basically no
Only worthwhile one is GR Usmash and Uair on Wario if he jump releases.
Only worthwhile one is GR Usmash and Uair on Wario if he jump releases.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
but they never do =[
Zwarm
Smash Hero
And I see Ally use GR dash attack on Metaknight, but idk if it's legit or not.