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It wasn't handy before. It is now. And that was rather short.
Responses in red.Sweet, a big post to boost discussion...
with your utilt idea, i dont think it would have enough hitstun/the wind down time of his utilt would be to long to combo into an uair.
Well it's a true combo in vBrawl so I'm preeeeetty sure it would work here
What do you mean cancle Up - B faster? Its either cancled by either doing an attack or air dodging, i dont get what you mean.
There's a half-second or so after you start your up-B where you can't do anything, including attack. I'd like to make that dead time shorter. (you can't airdodge out of your up-B btw)
About the charge time, is that actually edit-able? Also it helps a bit because that move if it hits them sends them flying which would give you more time to camp and ect. It also does more damage. However it is easier to dodge.
I don't know if it's editable, it's something I have to look into. And if you're letting your laser charge, you aren't using it to camp. That's part of the purpose of this proposed change. It encourages you to play more aggressively and go for gimps instead of camping. Full lasers are garbage for camping.
Rob is a really low damage character already, i dont know why you would want to nerf his damage further.
These proposed buffs need tradeoffs. This was my suggestion but I'm open to other ones.
And im pretty positive that if somebody double stick DI's at the moment of dthrow impact (which is pretty easy considering how long an animation it is) dthrow > nair isnt solid on anybody.
Dthrow->nair is solid on most of the cast at kill %s regardless of DI, trust me.
I didn't say he's broken. Overpowered is simply when the character has a definite advantage, but broken is when it's impossible or at least absurdly difficult to win against the character if the character's player is competent.
I'm aware of that much. The vanilla Side B was horrendous enough that the coded Side B is a considerable improvement. Now if only some of the other lousy moves would stop being so lousy.
We call that "gyro-canceling." It's one of ROB's few legit character-specific ATs.
It depends on their weight, and it only works if you predict their DI correctly which can be difficult because the timing is tight, but I assure you it's a true combo on over half the cast at kill %.
It is definitely a punishable and risky move with little reward, but it has some great situational uses. It can be a great approach against someone who's just standing back spamming projectiles because no one ever expects it. It's also useful if someone like Diddy is going to approach you with a glidetoss. Also, if you just tap it once, it ends very quickly and is faster than running. You can even give your 2nd jump a substantial boost with it, and wavebouncing it is sexy.
It's not truly a tradeoff though because nothing is being nerfed. It doesn't weaken camping, it just discourages it because it rewards more aggressive play.
With enough BKB (base knockback), it won't self-combo and will only be able to combo into uair. That's how I'd like it to work.
Sure 8% would be fine, need the same knockback like you said thoughThanks for the input Holy.
What do you think about being able to instantly cancel up-B?
And does changing fair from 10% to 8% sound like a reasonable nerf if we get instant up-B cancel, a functional utilt, and faster charging strong lasers?
I'll try to get a test build to play with eventually, but I don't know how to use PSA yet
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Yeah...about that...
