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Regional crews at Apex 2: EC vs WC

ksizl4life

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Look Ksizzle I did not say you aren't one of the best Lucario's because obviously you are & have established that reputation since brawl's release.

It definitely seemed implied

I know I'm new to the scene coming in 2009 but I do know that things change along with time. You can agree with me that you have been using the majority of mk & falco in tournaments recently.

What are my recent tourneys? PSI 2 where i went all falco to experiment and took 13th as a result. then before that, mk and lucario where i beat ninjalink and jash with mk and lucario respectively. then before that, Dooms house tourney, where i used mk lucario and falco equally. there are only about 6 tourneys that i have not used lucario with my mk. you only THINK i use mk only becuase thats what YOU know me for. the country knows me as an MK Lucario main.

I really don't keep up with you track record on who you beat with lucario or what not. But the example where you mentioned that match where you beat judge. Just because you beat one top player with that character & another top lucario lost to that same player does not necessarily mean you are better with that character.

I know it doesnt but you think ive only beaten judge with lucario? Have i not beaten snakeee in his prime, shugo in his prime, anther in his prime, jash, dmbrandon in his prime, etc. are these not national level opponents? look up facts please before you make conclusions. i dont care if you are new in the scene. if you are you either have 2 choices

choice a: look up the information of the past and present that you are currently overlooking.
choice b: dont post about something you dont know


Just like you mentioned you there are certain tools that apply to each person like either knowing the mu better or just knowing your character better. But you can't really say you are better with that character because you interchange with a MU that you do not like with lucario.

OMFG SERIOUSLY!? I MAIN META KNIGHT. i am NOT gonna use lucario in matches where i can easily win with using my real MAIN. why would i cripple myself? to prove to the oh great takeover that im the 2nd best lucario? yes that is definitely worth it. sorry my lord.

I can say you may be better at some mu's with lucario but that does not mean you are better overall.


yes you could say that. no doubt. but then again youd also be lying when you say that. oh also i can use this against you too. june better look out for the jigglypuffs and the dk's in bracket. looks like he doesnt know all the matchups either. for the record i dont know some matchups (like toon link, jash 3 stocked me game 1 but i kept to my promise and stayed lucario the entire set and won because im one of the best players and i am smart) but that doesnt kill my my worth with the character. my brain makes up for it. my experience makes up for it. experience = something of many i have over junebug.


I'll say this again, dont speak on matters you know nothing about. otherwise you not only hurt yourself, you hurt your allies as well.
read in the quote
 

Angel.M <3 C:

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Ksizzle go to apex. If anything apex can show you were you stand and need to work on. Plus you and cable will **** doubles, and its gonna be fun.
 

Omni

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rabble rabble rabble

md/va sucks cuz our powerhouses use Kirby, IC's, Marth, and Luigi.
 

Takeover1806

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**** ksizzle like you are really taking this to heart.
Tbh if you are better or the second best than that's fine dude LOL
I rarely care about who the first or second best with there character is anyway & I'm suprised we had a whole argument over such a title over who is better. I respect you as a player & that is all that really matters at the end of the day. The only thing people really care about in the smash community is being the best & I know you can agree with me 100% on that. I just had an opinion about who I think would represent great with Lucario. I'm pretty sure you are confident in your ability to **** with lucario & that is great confidence. Mybad if you took my opinion to heart but let's all be humble & play for fun at least that is why I play.

**** I wanted to post way earlier but my roomate was on the computer all day lol
 

ksizl4life

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**** ksizzle like you are really taking this to heart.
Tbh if you are better or the second best than that's fine dude LOL
I rarely care about who the first or second best with there character is anyway & I'm suprised we had a whole argument over such a title over who is better. I respect you as a player & that is all that really matters at the end of the day. The only thing people really care about in the smash community is being the best & I know you can agree with me 100% on that. I just had an opinion about who I think would represent great with Lucario. I'm pretty sure you are confident in your ability to **** with lucario & that is great confidence. Mybad if you took my opinion to heart but let's all be humble & play for fun at least that is why I play.

**** I wanted to post way earlier but my roomate was on the computer all day lol
I just dont like seeing false statements is all.
 

falco03

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if my opinion counts for anything i think md/va is underrated......plus are reigon doesnt support each other at all.......look how we tell each other we suck like seriously were not amazing but we dont suck.........my reigon hates me why am i even posting
 

iRJi

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if my opinion counts for anything i think md/va is underrated......plus are reigon doesnt support each other at all.......look how we tell each other we suck like seriously were not amazing but we dont suck.........my reigon hates me why am i even posting
There not underrated lol.

Anyway, Ksizzle, if it counts for anything, I personally think you are better then lee with lucario. Just off of my experience with both players by playing them and watching them, you make better choices overall.

@Omni: Your right, your region has not moved from a year ago. The issue is not the characters however, it is the drive to play the game to increase their skill. NJ overall is sinking down the same boat slowly. We are losing players overall, and some of is just don't care as much anymore. I don't blame the repetitiveness of the characters, rather, I blame the lack of energy to thrive to be better then another person. As NJ players, we have little determination to prove anything since for a decent amount of time we proved that we are one of the most fierce places to be. NY falls into the same category. I hate my own state for that, but it's hard to try and motivate people who have lost all motivation to try and dominate others. Because of this, we lack competitiveness, and substitute it with mediocre excuses saying why we are doing bad OTHER then the fact that we are putting in less work and trying to get the same result. I fall under this, since I use to place decently high in every tournament I went to until around the 3/4th mark of 09'. From that point I have been placing nearly last. I have not put effort into improving dramatically until recently when I switched mains for the most part.

Everyone: I bring this up because watching my own state, and my neighboring states, from the outside saddens me. I **** talk this game all the time, but the one thing I never really complained about is how much competition it use to bring between people. For me, that is what makes a game fun. I know some people who don't go to tournaments anymore because of just the payouts being low. If your convince more people to go, the payout will be larger. I have been playing games competitively since I was like 12, from halo (Anyone can MM me =]) to even Tetris. I have attended every tournament possible, from MLGs dating back to the beginning of H2 to Evo's. For a game that we are trying to make competitive, but lacks the emotion from people that are needed to make it competitive, is not a competitive game.

It's motivation overall. Laziness takes over and just makes us weaker in general. I think its time for all of us to just get up and start playing again.

Sorry for the mini wall of text. I just thought it had to be said.
 

ksizl4life

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you guys are better than pa. i dont care what anyone else thinks.

also rj, i say that cuz he knows more matchups than me. just that. alot of people say im better but i disagree.
 

Takeover1806

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There not underrated lol.

Anyway, Ksizzle, if it counts for anything, I personally think you are better then lee with lucario. Just off of my experience with both players by playing them and watching them, you make better choices overall.

@Omni: Your right, your region has not moved from a year ago. The issue is not the characters however, it is the drive to play the game to increase their skill. NJ overall is sinking down the same boat slowly. We are losing players overall, and some of is just don't care as much anymore. I don't blame the repetitiveness of the characters, rather, I blame the lack of energy to thrive to be better then another person. As NJ players, we have little determination to prove anything since for a decent amount of time we proved that we are one of the most fierce places to be. NY falls into the same category. I hate my own state for that, but it's hard to try and motivate people who have lost all motivation to try and dominate others. Because of this, we lack competitiveness, and substitute it with mediocre excuses saying why we are doing bad OTHER then the fact that we are putting in less work and trying to get the same result. I fall under this, since I use to place decently high in every tournament I went to until around the 3/4th mark of 09'. From that point I have been placing nearly last. I have not put effort into improving dramatically until recently when I switched mains for the most part.

Everyone: I bring this up because watching my own state, and my neighboring states, from the outside saddens me. I **** talk this game all the time, but the one thing I never really complained about is how much competition it use to bring between people. For me, that is what makes a game fun. I know some people who don't go to tournaments anymore because of just the payouts being low. If your convince more people to go, the payout will be larger. I have been playing games competitively since I was like 12, from halo (Anyone can MM me =]) to even Tetris. I have attended every tournament possible, from MLGs dating back to the beginning of H2 to Evo's. For a game that we are trying to make competitive, but lacks the emotion from people that are needed to make it competitive, is not a competitive game.

It's motivation overall. Laziness takes over and just makes us weaker in general. I think its time for all of us to just get up and start playing again.

Sorry for the mini wall of text. I just thought it had to be said.
I agree but it's not really that people need to play more, the real problem is people's mindsets change over the course of time. Like people have fun playing the game but once people get down for whatever reason, they start to lose interest. Some people try so hard but are not strong enough to play this game at a high level, so alot of people that start playing just quit.

@ ksizzle that is not even a question that we are better than PA. MD/VA is a state where we have a few very great players, but we have a TON of good players. But PA they only have like 10 or 15 good players. The 10 or 15 players they have are very active too. NY/NJ you guys have alot of very great players and alot of good players.
 

Inui

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ksizzle's Lucario is better than Zucco's, lol. I just beat Zucco in tournament, but ksizzle sort of ***** me with Lucario. >_>; All of the Lucarios being discussed are amazing, of course.

Anyways, the team got decided, pending nobody drops out or somehow isn't going...
 

ksizl4life

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wait you have to PM GIMR about this? ooh....lol

anti u should drop the joke if you really wana be in this.
 

Inui

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Yes.

It's officially decided by 3pm today I think and is going to be listed in some pregame show.

I sent GIMR the list in the first post already to be the team.

What am I doing with you and Anti now? I can still change it if you two can participate and want to. I'll just be dropping Junebug, Judge, and/or NinjaLink most likely.
 

ksizl4life

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wtf judge told me hes working lol him and atomsk were supposed to team and now atomsk is with nairo cuz of it.

ill find out all the info prrtty soon.,
 

ksizl4life

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Kelvin Quezada (3:41:37 PM): hey judgeypoo
Kelvin Quezada (3:41:41 PM): ur not going to apex right
Judge (4:20:08 PM): correcto
Kelvin Quezada (4:22:20 PM): i see ={
 

Takeover1806

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Ninjalink would be so legit.
Can you counterpick a person with another character after you beat somebody??
 

ksizl4life

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not really. if they choose random, you have to stay a your character. if they counterpick a certain stage you can change but you wont see their character till you choose.
 

Inui

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What's the situation with Anti?

You're allowed, obviously, Kelvin. It's just a matter if you want to or not and are actually going or not.
 

ksizl4life

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*looks at location*

yep.

maybe becuz the players listed are all better? just a thought.

well maybe not all are better. and im sure he was considered already by someone but other selections were made becuz of this type of event.
 

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san has beaten judge in tourney, gone a really close set with shadow, and I'm fully confident he could beat lain and probably shugo, at least.

edit: I'm also positive he'd give the most hype to the event too lol
 

ksizl4life

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didnt judge lose to ness that day as well? yep. beating someone who only knows how to fight like 8 characters is awesome.

yeah he can probly beat lain maybe

almost beat shadow? nice. i almost beat adhd 12 times, almost beat m2k everytime we play too. almost = nothing.

shugo, hell no. that guy is on top right now.

san bring hype? i agree.

but ike in crew battle? meh. san's awesome but ike is ike.
 
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