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Regional crews at Apex 2: EC vs WC

ksizl4life

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If my mother allows Nairo to stay at a 3 day tourney without me, then yeah he can go.

He'll find out today.
 

Takeover1806

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Gosh it kills me how Inui thinks md/va is bad.
To be sincerely honest we are def the one of the top regions in Brawl.
But anytime md/va does stuff in tourney's people ignore what ever happened.
The main reason for that is md/va does not brag about what we do on the boards & we don't try to prove anything to anybody.
Ohh yea we don't attend regionals or nationals like other regions
 

Inui

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Gosh it kills me how Inui thinks md/va is bad.
To be sincerely honest we are def the one of the top regions in Brawl.
But anytime md/va does stuff in tourney's people ignore what ever happened.
The main reason for that is md/va does not brag about what we do on the boards & we don't try to prove anything to anybody.
Ohh yea we don't attend regionals or nationals like other regions
lmao wtf MD/VA lost to PA

two states that are "one of the top regions" lost to a single state that is often overlooked

MD/VA lets me make a profit literally every time I go down there, since like...the fall of 2008. I haven't been there in a while, but nothing has really changed to make me believe I still wouldn't take home cash.

MD/VA isn't that good anymore. I don't think you're bad. I just know MD/VA is past it's prime.

ChuDat will probably be used for the big 10v10, but I'm reluctant to put in anyone else from MD/VA.
 

Inui

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Atomsk
Shadow
Mew2King
NinjaLink
ChuDat
Jash
Lain
Shugo
Judge
CO18

Anti can't go apparently. ksizzle isn't going. ADHD will be gone. Fatal has family stuff. CO18 is the only top player from FL going to Apex 2. So...I guess this is a good final list?

I just realized that Jash + no timer = djksgzfkjdhgsjkhfacsd.
 

Takeover1806

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Inui you might want to look at the actual singles placements results rather than the results from one squandered crew battle to accurately judge a region before you disregard all its players.

SlikVik~former MD/VA :bee:
thank you Slik.
Anyway Inui from what I heard you only do well in doubles down here.
Look at the recent tourney in doubles @ Omni's
1. Korn + Junebug
2. Adhd + Atomsk

Like your two best players got beat 2 sets by a team that only teamed once in MD/VA.
You can't ignore the top 5 in singles.
3 MD/VA, 2 Jersey, 1 Canadian.
Yea crew battles we got beat but nobody expected Vex to take 2 of Candy's stocks & 3 of Meeps stocks.
 

ksizl4life

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thank you Slik.
Anyway Inui from what I heard you only do well in doubles down here.
Look at the recent tourney in doubles @ Omni's
1. Korn + Junebug
2. Adhd + Atomsk

Like your two best players got beat 2 sets by a team that only teamed once in MD/VA.
You can't ignore the top 5 in singles.
3 MD/VA, 2 Jersey, 1 Canadian.
Yea crew battles we got beat but nobody expected Vex to take 2 of Candy's stocks & 3 of Meeps stocks.
Our 2 best players in singles? yes. correct. there is no doubt about that.

our 2 best players in doubles? no. hell no. not even close. if you can please only spew factual information when you post. you've been posting alot of garbage lately
 

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Ksizzle counters Takeover. Targeting an incorrect point while ignoring valid points is the way of the tiger!

Raaawr.
 

Inui

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thank you Slik.
Anyway Inui from what I heard you only do well in doubles down here.
Look at the recent tourney in doubles @ Omni's
1. Korn + Junebug
2. Adhd + Atomsk

Like your two best players got beat 2 sets by a team that only teamed once in MD/VA.
You can't ignore the top 5 in singles.
3 MD/VA, 2 Jersey, 1 Canadian.
Yea crew battles we got beat but nobody expected Vex to take 2 of Candy's stocks & 3 of Meeps stocks.
Who cares if I did "well" in doubles? MD/VA paid for my trips. Thanks for that for two years btw. If I was with Atomsk, he most likely would have gotten his normal 1st.

Of course top 5 had 3 MD/VA. It was an MD/VA tournament. How many NJ players entered singles? Uh...three? Four? Didn't the ones that entered do very well? Yes.

You can't just john about Vex being too good, lmao.

Just PLEASE get rid of this garbage massive ridiculous MD/VA ego and move on. MD/VA being super gdlk is a thing of the past. The distant past with Melee.

ChuDat is your best player that is attending. He will be used for sure. MD/VA isn't being forgotten, but they will NOT be given preference over stronger regions with more successful and consistent players.

Our 2 best players in singles? yes. correct. there is no doubt about that.

our 2 best players in doubles? no. hell no. not even close. if you can please only spew factual information when you post. you've been posting alot of garbage lately
Agreed. Imo, ksizzle, me, Zucco, and Cable are better in doubles than ADHD for sure. Atomsk is very good and probably the best at his peak, but only with specific people and when he actually chooses the right character, which is not that often.
 

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Also korn and June ain't exactly mdva's two top team players either.

Johns GET!
 

Inui

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Also korn and June ain't exactly mdva's two top team players either.

Johns GET!
Imo, Korn is, along with ChuDat, and MK + Lucario done right is extremely good. That team was definitely incredible. It's like when Zucco and I teamed and ***** dmbrandon/ksizzle and dmbrandon/Shadow twice despite never really teaming before or even training together, lmao. MK + Lucario is easy and powerful if the Lucario is good at singles and the MK is good at protecting.
 

ksizl4life

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It's obviously Candy and Chu but what did they get that day? right.

also look at the past results for adhd and atomsk teaming. bad results, even at locals. im actually laughing at how your state managed to let them get 2nd(including when you omni, teamed with the 2nd best player in the world) when they have no chemistry and atomsk even admits teaming with him has been a bad decision.
 

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Candy and Chu? Really? ChuDat yeah...but Candy and Chu almost always lost to Atomsk and I, both together and separately with other people. >_>;

Korn/Chu = best in teams in MD/VA.

But that's irrelevant now, so we should drop it.

I agree with ksizzle on the second part. They got 4th at a local that ksizzle/Cable won and Zucco and I got second at. >_>;

Aaaaaanyways, ChuDat is being used and Junebug and Candy are under strong consideration, so MD/VA needs to relax.

Midwest and NY/NJ are stronger, so, yeah...
 

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Peole have on and off days. That includes teams. Candy and Chu are consistent. Can't just be like, look at one tourny and make a statement.

I mean the infamous legendary teams partner inui had his off days in teams. Doesn't take away from his consistency.

@inui: I agree.
 

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Yeah sometimes I sucked because of not owning a Wii for a looooooong time wrecking my technical skill, but I should be okay now that I own one again. Chu/Candy are consistent. I'd like to see Chu/Korn exist. That would never lose imo. I'd be very scared of an MD/VA team for once. D:

I hope the rest of MD/VA reads this: "ChuDat is being used and Junebug and Candy are under strong consideration, so MD/VA needs to relax."
 

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Chu korn won't work. Chu needs an aggressive disrupter. So does Korn. They're both patient opportunist. Don't see that working too well. I think Chu's strength is capitalizing on openings hard. Snake and aggressive MKs can create these.
 

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Two camper/supporter type players can work well together. Snakeee/teh_spamerer at CoT4 is the best example of that. teh_spamerer and I also did very well many times.

It's Brawl. Camping > aggression. Two people camping can work quite well.

Aggressive + camping = best, though.

I write blogs about this stuff, lol...
 

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Maybe. But neither of those two have projectiles. They have to both commit to attacking more times then they'd want if a Snake is lobbing grenades from a distance.

But yea it can work.
 

Angel.M <3 C:

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Anti can't go apparently. ksizzle isn't going. ADHD will be gone. Fatal has family stuff. CO18 is the only top player from FL going to Apex 2. So...I guess this is a good final list?

I just realized that Jash + no timer = djksgzfkjdhgsjkhfacsd.
Why isn't ksizzle going ]: you needa be at thissss
Same with anti
 

ksizl4life

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Why isn't ksizzle going ]: you needa be at thissss
Same with anti
I'm not good enough to compete in singles at a national level atm, I need more time.

I'm still debating going for doubles for cable's sake.

also if i dont enter both, im not paying 35 dollars to see tons of people i dislike. If i wanna watch the tourney, i can do that from my home.
 

Takeover1806

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I'm not posting garbage, I just did not agree on some of the people on the list that you would actually put over.

^^ go back to practicing mk again lol
 

ksizl4life

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I'm practicing MK Lucario Falco Snake and Dedede.

I NEED all those characters to win a tourney like apex.

and before i get comments saying mk doesnt meed other characters as backup, im not as good m2k so sorry lol.
 

ksizl4life

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vs MK = id need to go Lucario or Falco. I'm not ditto'ing anymore. It's a guessing game. I'm not gonna go lose to kel or some **** cuz he made better guesses

vs Wario = Lucario, Snake, dedede. I'm *** at that mu with mk now. those 3 depend on how well the character is perfoming that day. Snake is my best bet though.

vs snake = falco. not using MK for that anymore. not giving the reasons out right now.

vs zss = falco or lucario. idk the mu with anyone else. falco ***** her in a dark alley and lucario beats her solidly.

pikachu = lucario since lucario ***** him

theres more but im gonna stop

Im still shocked that you think junebug is the best lucario. and other things that benefit your state. that goes to show who pays attention to the actual smash scene of the U.S. and who pays attention solely to their own state.
 

Takeover1806

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you can't really say Lee or you are the top lucario's in the nation since both of you don't use lucario solely.
Lee Martin does not play Lucario in tournament anymore from what I've seen.
You don't main lucario or play him in tournament.
If you have played him in tournament I have not seen a tournament that you've ***** with just using lucario.
Trust me I follow the smash scene enough, even though I don't travel alot.
I don't find it suprising that junebug would be considered for the best lucario since he is one of the few lucario mains that go all lucario & produce well. I understand he did not do well at pound & everyone has inconsistencies. But since pound he has gotten alot better & is the only Lucario main asides from Zucco & Trela that I see do well. The only reason you have for him not being the best lucario is he does not travel to OOS to be considered. Anyway's you mention yourself as being the top Lucario next to Lee, but I alway's considered Zucco to be the best Lucario in NY/NJ.
whats up with that??
 

ksizl4life

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and guess what? you're alone when you think that.

so off your entire post, if i dont go solely lucario, i wont be the best lucario? you are absurd.

Example

zucco lost to judge at pound 4 with lucario, an all lucario main. then ksizzle and judge play in tournament!! and who wins with all lucario? ksizzle.

just because you dont go all of a character doesnt mean you arent the best with him. in this game you need to be smart. not everyone is equal. some are smarter than others. some understand the character better and some know the characters matchup and tools better.

Lee martin is just like me, uses mk and lucario but hes still the best. the ENTIRE COUNTRY knows this minus someone named takeover.

also, hey i kinda you know, main a better character than lucario. i main mk. why should go all lucario to prove your point to you when everyone else knows whos good and whos better?

Junebug (1:40:50 PM): ugh
Junebug (1:41:20 PM): its funny cause people hate me cause my region says im the best lucario
Junebug (1:41:27 PM): even tho i still thin lee and you are better
Kelvin Quezada (1:41:44 PM): who hates you? lol. probly scrubs.
Kelvin Quezada (1:41:48 PM): you havent done anything wrong
Junebug (1:42:07 PM): yeah its just annoyin

even junebug knows it. you know, you should really let june speak for himself because you're just hurting his rep with this kinda talk

for example

Junebug (1:42:30 PM): when i just got back from india and place 9th, people got mad @ me
Junebug (1:42:40 PM): even tho i couldnt practice
junebug (1:42:44 PM): :(

He knows he isnt the best lucario. and you guys over hyping him + him getting 9th = bad rep. and dont give any inconsistency johns either because once oos steps into the tourney, he got 9th. who cares about ****** your own region over and over with any character? at least me and lee martin go around beating the best players in the country. at least we have a shot vs god tier players like mew2king WITH lucario.

I've been known for years as a lucario player and constantly helping the other lucarios in matchup knowledge and finding new tricks vs great characters like mk to make matchups better.

junebug is ****. no doubt. but know your place and only speak of a subject you know about becuz i only read one word off that post : Ignorance.

your consideration on zucco being the best lucario in nj is your own opinion but im sure mostly all of NJ will disagree, including him.

another garbage post by takeover.
 

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Yea i hate when people hype our region and i kinda dont care anymore. People in our region dont get were pretty much the same as a yr ago. We all lose to the same people and almost none of us has really gotten better. The only people who got better were junebug, takeover, and korn (lol biased cuz these 3 are the reason i never win anymore) and they pretty much now fall in the skill level of our top players. No one stands out as amazing anymore in md/va ever since i fell off the big horse.

Our region i hope will become more humble because of losing to PA. Guys just step it up and let your results show. Anything we dont get first or 2nd in doesnt mean **** unless you beat ally/m2k/adhd and not lost cuz of last hit. In the end of the day you lost and they won.
 

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Look Ksizzle I did not say you aren't one of the best Lucario's because obviously you are & have established that reputation since brawl's release. I know I'm new to the scene coming in 2009 but I do know that things change along with time. You can agree with me that you have been using the majority of mk & falco in tournaments recently.
I really don't keep up with you track record on who you beat with lucario or what not. But the example where you mentioned that match where you beat judge. Just because you beat one top player with that character & another top lucario lost to that same player does not necessarily mean you are better with that character. Just like you mentioned you there are certain tools that apply to each person like either knowing the mu better or just knowing your character better. But you can't really say you are better with that character because you interchange with a MU that you do not like with lucario. I can say you may be better at some mu's with lucario but that does not mean you are better overall.
 
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