Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

[DrifloonEmpire]

Gonna abstain on the ARMS trio since I don't have much energy for a write up today. However, there was a good point raised that if Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, etc were de-confirmed by their base game content, they wouldn't be among the roster in the 'Guess Who" preview. Being the poster child of the game, Spring Man would be the most likely rep, with Ribbon Girl acting as 4 of his alts Alph-Style. Ninjara would be a dark horse pick, but does have some demand on his side, being the second most popular character in the game, and the most popular during the game's early days. Still gonna put my bets on Max Brass, though.

However, there is one major issue that would come with Spring Man's promotion. There are other characters like Waluigi, Isaac, Shadow, etc who have been assists for a long time, with Waluigi being one for three straight games. people are begging for them to be promoted. Seeing them get passed up again while Spring Man gets both an assist and an immidiate promotion within the same game (for marketing no less, even if it is a new IP being represented) would not sit well with a lot of people.


Nominations:
Concept: Civilization series stage with music (standalone) x5

Predictions:
New Zelda Character - 12.32% - I can tell there won't be a lot of optimistic scores.

 

[3BitSaurus]

I don't really see a Bowser Jr. / Hero situation happening (at best I can see Spring with Ribbon as a full-blown Chrom-esque Echo), so I'll go with individual rates. I'll be brief because it's late and I have no energy in my body and soul.

Spring Man
Chance: 40%
He's the mascot of the game and is relatively basic to the point where he could represent ARMS' mechanics well enough. Even if they for some reason disn't want to upgrade him because of an AT, there's few characters that can really step up to the plate.

Want: 80%
Part of me does think Springo is interesting enough on his own. And I can't lie - part of me wants it to be him just to shut up the people who are in denial about him being the mascot of ARMS.

Ribbon Girl
Chance: 10%
I see very little reason for her to be included in the game before Spring Man. Sure, she's in the box art, but it would be like putting Ken in before Ryu. Again, I think her best shot is as an Echo Fighter of sorts, with her own signature ARMS.

Want: 50%
Eh. Don't really care for her, but I would be fine with it. If anyone else got in as a standalone ARMS rep besides Spring Man, I'd rather it be Minmin or Max Brass, really.

Ninjara
Chance: 5%
One of the most popular characters aside from Minmin... which means she beats him in popularity and he's not in a "mascot" position either, like Spring or Ribbon. So his only chance is to be an alt... which I don't see as likely.

Want: 50%
Like his design and enjoyed playing as him for the most part... but for Smash, I think I'd rather have someone else, especially considering they have to represent ARMS' basic mechanics.

Predictions
New Zelda Character: 14.8%

Nominations
Ahri x 5

 

[Ninjaed]

Calamitas he's literally the second most popular character in the game only behind Min-Min.

I thought that was Twintelle? She's one of only 2 I'd ever heard about when hearing about ARMS, I didn't even know about Ninjara's existence until the speculation started (ARMS didn't appeal to me, and didn't care enough about spirits to unlock them all). Or are you talking about the in-game tournament that Min-Min won?

 

[3DSNinja]

The in-game tournament primarily, although he's definently at least 3rd, possibly more popular then Twintelle, thought that's up in the air. He's also the dev favorite which gives him another advantage.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I thought that was Twintelle? She's one of only 2 I'd ever heard about when hearing about ARMS, I didn't even know about Ninjara's existence until the speculation started (ARMS didn't appeal to me, and didn't care enough about spirits to unlock them all). Or are you talking about the in-game tournament that Min-Min won?

The in-game tournament primarily, although he's definently at least 3rd, possibly more popular then Twintelle, thought that's up in the air. He's also the dev favorite which gives him another advantage.

Shouldn't we wait until Twintelle's day to talk about her? I know they're all ARMS at the end of the day, but try to keep it focused on the ones being discussed.

 

[Ninjaed]

Shouldn't we wait until Twintelle's day to talk about her? I know they're all ARMS at the end of the day, but try to keep it focused on the ones being discussed.

I was talking about Ninjara's popularity though?

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Like amageish, it would feel off for me to give them all a chance % who don't total to 100%. I kinda wanted to include the 2 concepts (alts and arms 2) in that as well, but those are more speculation-based. An ARMS franchise character is official, an ARMS 2 game + rep isn't.

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Spring Man

Chance: 8%
Low-ish chance but I just don't see Nintendo going all mysterious-like, "it's gonna be one of them, but who will it be!!" and then take the most obvious choice. It'd be like telling us we're getting a FE3H character, only to get Byleth instead of Edelgard or Rhea. Basically, if it'd been Spring Man, we would've been told so already. Besides, his gimmick is getting full charge at critical HP. We already have Little Mac's KO Punch and Terry's Go!. I figure they'd pick someone else.

Want: 1%
He is generic as can be, on looks, ability and personality. What plenty of speculators like about him isn't even about him. It's about the "rules" he'd break... That's pretty telling. Give us someone else please.

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Ribbon Girl

Chance: 14%
The female mascot, she was in the first trailers like Spring Man so that already gives her a good enough shot. However, she isn't that popular compared to others and her gimmick revolves around jumping and fastfalling... which you already do plenty of in Smash. I would've seen her in the base roster, but as DLC material? She'd lack that DLC move. Or if she gets one, anyone from ARMS could get it.

Want: 10%
Not really a fan of her design, she looks fairly bland, ARMS aside. And I'm not sure I'd like a jigglymont. Or a belpuff. Whichever sounds best.

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Ninjara

Chance: 6%
I'm rating him even lower than Spring Man because he isn't really the best choice for anything. Popularity-wise, he's beaten by Min-Min (and possibly Twintelle), even on the dev side. Ninja-wise, we have Sheik or Greninja who are much more ninja-like already. Ability-wise, his smokebomb-after-dodging gimmick would translate into a counter - yawn. It could be made interesting if it's attached to his spotdodge/airdodge/roll though. But I fear that might be a tad broken, as he'd likely be able to true combo out of a dodge.

Want: 5%
And I wouldn't want another G&W in the game with a free out-of-jail card. If he's not another G&W, then he'd be more bland in his design. Speaking of design, I don't like his. Still, I have to admit, as toxic as it sounds, a smokebomb dodge would certainly be unique. So there's that at least.

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Predictions: new Zelda rep - 31%

Nominations: Junko & Monokuma x5

 

[chocolatejr9]

I was talking about Ninjara's popularity though?

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Like amageish, it would feel off for me to give them all a chance % who don't total to 100%. I kinda wanted to include the 2 concepts (alts and arms 2) in that as well, but those are more speculation-based. An ARMS franchise character is official, an ARMS 2 game + rep isn't.

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Spring Man

Chance: 8%
Low-ish chance but I just don't see Nintendo going all mysterious-like, "it's gonna be one of them, but who will it be!!" and then take the most obvious choice. It'd be like telling us we're getting a FE3H character, only to get Byleth instead of Edelgard or Rhea. Basically, if it'd been Spring Man, we would've been told so already. Besides, his gimmick is getting full charge at critical HP. We already have Little Mac's KO Punch and Terry's Go!. I figure they'd pick someone else.

Want: 1%
He is generic as can be, on looks, ability and personality. What plenty of speculators like about him isn't even about him. It's about the "rules" he'd break... That's pretty telling. Give us someone else please.

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Ribbon Girl

Chance: 14%
The female mascot, she was in the first trailers like Spring Man so that already gives her a good enough shot. However, she isn't that popular compared to others and her gimmick revolves around jumping and fastfalling... which you already do plenty of in Smash. I would've seen her in the base roster, but as DLC material? She'd lack that DLC move. Or if she gets one, anyone from ARMS could get it.

Want: 10%
Not really a fan of her design, she looks fairly bland, ARMS aside. And I'm not sure I'd like a jigglymont. Or a belpuff. Whichever sounds best.

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Ninjara

Chance: 6%
I'm rating him even lower than Spring Man because he isn't really the best choice for anything. Popularity-wise, he's beaten by Min-Min (and possibly Twintelle), even on the dev side. Ninja-wise, we have Sheik or Greninja who are much more ninja-like already. Ability-wise, his smokebomb-after-dodging gimmick would translate into a counter - yawn. It could be made interesting if it's attached to his spotdodge/airdodge/roll though. But I fear that might be a tad broken, as he'd likely be able to true combo out of a dodge.

Want: 5%
And I wouldn't want another G&W in the game with a free out-of-jail card. If he's not another G&W, then he'd be more bland in his design. Speaking of design, I don't like his. Still, I have to admit, as toxic as it sounds, a smokebomb dodge would certainly be unique. So there's that at least.

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Predictions: new Zelda rep - 31%

Nominations: Junko & Monokuma x5

Sorry about that. I must've misread your comment.

 

[Ninjaed]

Sorry about that. I must've misread your comment.

No worries, I mean I did talk about Twintelle too. Had to since since I was comparing their popularity

 

[Glaciacott]

Haven't been here in a while, but Arms hype needs to be vented after accumulating for about a month now. Won't go hype deep here since I'll probably write an essay elsewhere with my thoughts. Also my percentages probably won't make sense statistically, but whatever.

Spring Man
Chance - 33%
I've heard a lot of people express the thought that "If it were spring man, they wouldn't have teased it so early and made it seem like it could be a different character", and I honestly think that makes a ton of sense. Which, in turn, is why I think Spring Man is likely. Nintendo does enough out of left field stuff that I could totally see them announce Spring Man as the fighter and say that they teased it in that way to make sure people would try out all the Arms characters, or something like that.
Also, I'm not too attached to fan rules like assist trophies keeping anyone out of the run. The idea of Springtron replacing the AT seems reasonable, and I wouldn't be surprised if Waluigi got in the game in this pass. What's more, if Spring Man is in, I can imagine the reveal video to revolve around an assist trophy becoming a fighter and feature the Waluigi announcement as well.

Want - 30%
I respect Spring Man, even if fighting him in rank 7 grand prix pisses me off. He's likable, is an excellent rep for Arms and definitely deserves to be in Smash as a fighter.

Ribbon Girl
Chance - 20%
While she is as much of a protagonist as Spring Man, I don't think she's as likely as him. Still very possible all things considered. Don't have as much to add about her.

Want - 10%
I don't like her as a character that much. Lore-wise even Spring Man is more interesting despite being the vanilla, everyman protagonist-type character. She'd still be cool because I like Arms and her stage and song are top tier, and it's always nice to have more female fighters, buuuuut it wouldn't be as hype for me as it could be. My avatar probably spoils why.

Greninjara
Chance - 5%
One of the most popular Arms characters, got second in the party crash bash, and a character the devs seem to reasonably like. That said, I don't think he makes sense in Smash mechanically. The archetype he has in Arms is to have strong approach options and punish whiffs with grabs, helped by his character mechanic of vanishing when getting hit during shields. None of these are mechanics not seen in Smash already, nor would his playstyle represent the ranged fighting game style of Arms particularly well, imo.

Want - 0%
Since I don't think he represents Arms that well I wouldn't enjoy him getting the spot, even if I think his design is pretty solid and he's not a terrible character by any means. Also, I find Greninja to fit that archetype perfectly already, and if they were to add another ninja for whatever reason I'd rather see hayabusa.

 

[Sari]

I'll preface by saying that I think we will be getting a Koopalings/Hero type of deal when it comes to the more than one character being represented. If Nintendo wants to make ARMS their next big thing (especially since the ARMS character was a production request from Nintendo), I think it would make sense to have the various colorful characters of ARMS be represented through alt costumes. Yes I know that there are characters like Min Min whose signature arms aren't like the others, but I can see some liberties being taken since you can change your weapons in ARMS. It'd be similar to how Simon uses some of Richter's moves or how none of the Earthbound characters can use any of their specials in their original games apart from Ness with PK Flash.

My want scores are just based on the ARMS characters themselves, so me giving a 100% to someone doesn't mean I want them on the same level as my most wanted characters like Quote or Crash. I'm still totally down for an ARMS character in general though.

Also I have yet to actually play ARMS so I apologize if I get any details for these ARMS ratings wrong. I recently learned that you can play ARMS with a pro controller so I plan to get it soon. That might not be for a while though as I'm hesitant to spend money in general with you know what going on.

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Spring Man

Chance: 80%
Posterboy of the series and a fairly basic character that could easily represent ARMS as a whole. It's hard to imagine a universe where the ARMS rep is not Spring Man or a certain other character that we'll be rating in the next ARMS rating day.

Want: 90%
He's got a cool and colorful design plus having the "assist trophies can't be playable in the same game" fanrule finally be broken would be amazing. While there are a few other ARMS characters I'd prefer to see, I don't think they could go wrong with adding Spring Man.

Completely off topic but I just recently learned that Spring Man's voice actor also voiced Bomberman in Super Bomberman R (which I just recently got, though I'm not a fan of his voice) as well as Kyo Kusanagi in the (hilariously awful) English dub of KoF XII. Both Bomberman and Kyo are two of my most wanted characters in Smash so... maybe this is some mystical sign that I should main Spring Man if he gets in?

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Ribbon Girl

Chance: 50%
If we get a Koopalings type of deal with the ARMS character, I think Ribbon Girl is basically guaranteed to appear as an alt. I can't imagine her getting in over Spring Man or being the single ARMS character though.

Want: 100%
Maybe it's because of my natural instinct to drift towards the "not #1 most popular character" but Ribbon Girl is one of my top three most wanted ARMS characters (if not my most wanted in general). Her design is simple yet cool and she seems like she'd do a good job at representing the series without being too gimmicky like some of the other characters. Also she's got one of the best character themes as well as the coolest stage in the game.

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Abstaining completely on Ninjara because there's apparently some debate on his popularity and I don't know much about him. Plus it's really late and I just want to get my ratings down.

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New Zelda rep chance prediction: 23.01%

Nominations:
Axel Stone x5

 

[chocolatejr9]

So has this been brought up here? I'm a little confused by the wording of the article, but I figured I'd show it in case we rate the character.

Ubisoft hopes Rayman will be included in #SmashUltimate's second Fighters Pass.

Do you think he has a shot? 🤔https://t.co/q5jEDqlvFf

— Toad’s Nintendo News (@MailToadINTEL) April 26, 2020

I'm not saying it means anything, but it could be brought up in future discussions. Not that that'll happen anytime soon...

Edit: False alarm. Turns out the reason I couldn't understand it is because it's malarkey. Carry on!

 

[warpenguin55]

What plenty of speculators like about him isn't even about him. It's about the "rules" he'd break...

I was thinking about this recently too. Yeah, Springman would mean that Assist Trophies & Spirits don't deconfirm any more, but exactly how much would a Springman upgrade really help the others? There's no way we get 6 assist trophy upgrades for the fighters pass. I don't think we'd be getting any more than 2, and even 2 would be surprising to me. Lets look at the that 2nd slot anyway though. Who benefits the most from Asisst Trophies and Spirits no longer deconfirming? Well, Waluigi does. We all remember the Waluigi's not playable backlash. This helps Geno a ton too, since he's the most requested character by a large margin. We also have Rex, who gets his chances boosted by any of the current ARMS characters being included, it doesn't necessarily need to be Springman. If Springman gets in, I believe we'll get atleast 1 of them. That's between 2-4 slots being taken. So our 5th or 6th slot is where we could get a character like Dixie Kong upgraded right? Possibly. But we also still have a few more factors to account for.

First, we'll probably have a 3rd party character. I don't think theres any chance we get 6 First Party characters. One 3rd Party and 5 First Parties is possible, but it don't think it's likely. We also still have to account for the very real possibility that we get a Gen 8 Pokemon. Say what you want about the Spirit event, but Sakurai makes exceptions for Pokemon. He held a spot in the base roster for Incineroar, when Incineroar could have easily been in the same boat as ARMS and Rex. Sakurai also added Greninja to smash before X & Y came out. I know that Nintendo picked and not Sakurai, but I really do feel like this shouldn't be ignored. We can't forget about promo picks either (or shill picks, but that sounds too negative imo. I prefer the term promo picks). Nintendo does love themselves the advertising, isn't that right Corrin?

So, based on the above, the best case scenario for a character like BWD or Dixie Kong is the following:

Slot 1: Springman
Slot 2: Geno. We don't get Rex or Waluigi. That would take care of the mandatory 3rd Party addition and getting at least 1 of the 3 characters I think are far ahead of the others if Spirits & Assist Trophies no longer deconfirm.
Slot 3: Pokemon If we're getting 4 First Parties along with Springman, I don't see any way that Pokemon doesn't snag one of those reps
Slot 4: Promo/ Another 3 Party
Slot 5: Upgrade
Slot 6: Upgrade
This does not sound likely to me at all. The way I think is most likely to play out is something like:

Slot 1: Springman(because if this is anyone but Springman, upgrades are back to where they started)
Slot 2: 3rd Party (which could also be Geno, so it could be an upgrade & 3rd party slot)
Slot 3: A second 3rd Party Rep
Slot 4: A Third 3rd Party Rep, probably one nobody expected like how we got Cloud and Terry.
Slot 5: A Fourth 3rd Party or a Promo Pick (Probably from BOTW2, Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon, or something like that)
Slot 6: Upgrade slot(which could STILL be occupied by Waluigi, Rex, or Geno.)

I think where Springman being included really matters to more than just a few characters is in future smash games. Springman would be more of an argument where "but they have done it before" instead of being the saving grace for this pass


I hope this rabbit hole made sense, I was interrupted a few times so if I contradict myself, that's probably why. It's possible I'm just completely wrong, this is just what would make sense to me.

 

[Sid-cada]

Because other people are doing it, I'll say I think a multi-character is a possibility, but am uncertain how likely it is. I think it's less likely than a solo character, though. I'll give that around 25%, for now. I'll rate each character's chances individually, as in how likely they are to get in at all, so expect math to not quite add up.

Spring Man

Chance - 75% - Were this before the assist trophy reveal, we would all be saying that if an ARMS character would be getting in, it would be Spring Man. While some things have changed, it's inarguable that Spring Man is the main character of ARMS at the moment. While both his Assist Trophy and the mystery behind who they would pick is a bit of a hit, I still think that Spring Man is the most likely character they would pick, unless an official ruling says that a character can't be an Assist Trophy and playable at the same time.

Want - 90% - Arms was a fun game, and I played a bunch while it was still somewhat fresh. Spring Man's, ironically enough, the guy I can remember the most personality of. He's such a straight send-up of a stock Shoen hero that I almost consider him a parody of the concept. He or composite character I think would be the ideal choice, as I don't want to overcomplicate things.


Ribbon Girl

Chance - 50% - Compared to Spring Man, Ribbon Girl would probably be next in line in case someone got chosen to be solo. The clear female mascot who was chosen to get a costume, she's the one that would probably represent them best if Spring Man was disallowed for some reason. If there is a multi-character, or even an echo, she's the clear choice for a second character.

Want - 75% - I want Spring Man more, but I'll take her. I don't have any strong opinions outside of avoiding making them overly gimmicky and how Spring Man should be first. I didn't mind an ARMS character in the first place, so overall I'm happy with the situation.


Ninjara

Chance - 25% - I can only really seem him if there is the 4-in one character right now. He's not quite prominent enough to be the mascot, and while he's popular, he's still outshined by others. I can't see a reason to pick him solo, but he's just right for the multi-character in my eyes.

Want - 75% - Really an echo of my feelings for Ribbon Girl here. I'll take him as part of the 4-pack, but as a solo I would prefer Spring Man.


Nominations

Nippon Ichi Rep X5

 

[Sari]

Day over.

Rate Concept: New Zelda character

Predict Alucard from Castlevania.

Megadoomer

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Some songs relating to some possible Zelda candidates:

Spoiler: Zelda Music

(Last song was meant to represent BotW 2, but there are no official songs of it right now)

 

[Perkilator]

Ba-Ba BadadadaDAAAAAAAH
Chance: 50%
This is conflicting for me, to say the least. On one hand, Zelda’s one of their biggest series, along with the fact CP5 and CP6 proved that series already represented can get DLC. On the other hand, the closest thing we’ve got to Zelda DLC (to my memory) in Smash is making its return and the Ancient Soldier Gear.

Want: 60%
I’m no Zelda fan on the levels of HMKilla or PeanutButterGamer, but I’ll accept just about any character. Yes, even one-offs, to ensure it’s not just three different versions of .

Alucard: 30%

Noms: Auroros, Jyk and Poppant as Assist Trophies x5

 

[Jomosensual]

New Zelda rep

Chance 20 - While I dont think the entire fighters pass, or even half of it really, will be 1st party I do think this make a lot of sense. LOZ is one of Nintendos top series and BoTW 2 is due out this year(I think). There's so many reasons that Nintendo could pick this that it's hard to think that they might not. Well, I can actually think of a reason they might not. It's because we already have 3 Links, 2 Zeldas, and one Gannondorf. Those are, for the most part, the main characters in the game. I don't expect a retro Zelda rep so unless we're getting a new character in BOTW2 that's gonna be an issue. I really don't see Sakurai making a 4th link or 3rd Zelda for DLC, although I don't think it's impossible.

Want Abstain - Abstaining here because I don't know what to vote it as. I don't want another Link or Zelda as DLC. Another Gannon would be ok since he's basically a Captain Falcon right now anyways. If we're going for him or a brand new Zelda rep then my rating is much higher. Just depends on who it is.

Predictions
Alucard 15% I guess? Not sure what to go for here

Noms
Guardian x5

 

[DaUsername]

Not Waluigi (Spring Man)
Chance: 10%
I'm probably underrating the heck out of this, but I still don't feel like we're gonna get a promoted Assist Trophy any time soon. Being an AT has always been the Smash equivalent of having "REJECTED" stamped on your forehead to me. Also why would they do the whole guess who thing if they're just gonna put in the main boxart guy? I guess you could say it's because of people like me who think ATs are a death sentence, but I don't know.
Want: 75%
I'll just say this right now, I'm perfectly okay with whatever ARMS character we get (just like I'm okay with any any Nintendo character that isn't from FE or Pokémon), so most of my want scores will be on the higher end because of that alone.
As far as Spring Man, I think he's very generic as far as ARMS characters go, but there's one thing that significantly increases his want score:
He's an Assist Trophy.
Spring Man getting upgraded would mean other ATs have a chance [insert Dumb & Dumber gif here] to be playable, too, and anything that gives me (probably false) hope for Waluigi is good in my book.

april fools lol xd (Ribbon Girl)
Chance: 70%
She's the most prominent character who isn't an Assist Trophy, so that's something I guess. It's been proven that Nintendo likes generic characters, so she seems like a safe choice. I don't think her Mii costume really matters that much since we already have playable characters that also have costumes. I don't think she's the most likely ARMS characters but she's definitely up there.
Want: 60%
I also think she's pretty generic as far as ARMS characters go. Especially since her main gimmick is just having 4 jumps. But like I said above, I'm perfectly okay with whoever we get.

Green Ninja(ra)
Chance: 30%
People claim he's the second most popular character, but that just means someone else is actually the most popular character. Unfortunately, he isn't really the best at anything. Ribbon Girl is more prominent, Min Min is more popular, Kid Cobra is cooler. It's still possible that he could sneak his way into the game, but it's not too likely.
Want: 60%
I don't really know much about this guy, but I like ninjas, so that's something. And once again, I'm perfectly okay with any ARMS newcomer.

Zelda prediction: 25% because you you people are too optimistic
Noms: Gen 8 Pokémon x5

 

[NintenRob]

I don't know what to write!!!!

A character from the legend of Zelda is so hard for me to think about, My most wanted comes from this franchise, it's a franchise I feel is missing a lot of essential songs. A character from this franchise is one the highest requested things out there. But also if it's not Skull Kid I don't know how I'll react. But if we don't get Spring Man Skull Kid won't have a chance anyway, but if we do get Spring Man, I'd consider Skull Kid the most likely candidate. He has something other Zelda characters don't have, and that's recognition from the Smash team, because like Spring Man, he also has both an assist trophy and Mii costume. Plus Majora's Mask desperately needs more songs. More so than any other 3D Zelda.

But I also don't want another version of Link, Zelda or Ganondorf. And honestly based on some of Sakurai's comments, I'm fearful he'd consider Botw Zelda as her own character and I don't want that. He's made reference to her twice as a possible candidate, although he did he seemed her a non fighter, that also seem based on early impression.

But I have faith that he'll make the right decision in the end

Chance 45%
Want 99%

Nominate no third parties in this pass x5

Predictions Alucard 13%

 

[DanganZilla5]

The franchise that can't wait to bomb some dodongos

Chance: 40%

I feel really conflicted about this. Zelda is one of Nintendo's top franchises. BOTW 2 is coming out maybe this year or more than likely next year and with how big BOTW was, I can totally see Nintendo pull a shill pick here. The big problem is that we don't know what the amount of first parties will be compared to third parties. Let's just say for the sake of argument that there will be 4 new first party characters. ARMS has already taken one spot and I can sense that we will probably get another Pokemon. That leaves two more spots for first parties and thus a new Zelda rep would compete with other first party characters like isaac, Waluigi, Rex and Bandana Dee, especially if Spring Man gets upgraded.

As for the 3 links, it's possible that Sakurai will choose Zelda or Ganondorf, though that logic might be a problem if the ARMS rep doesn;t break the "main characters always gets in first" rule. Would Sakurai add a 4th Link? I don't know. Even if BOTW 2 Link is going to be a unique character, that would still be a bit overkill. But aside from BOTW 2, we also got Skull Kid. He is a popular character, though he is overshadowed by other heavily speculated and requested first party characters.

Overall, I think another Zelda character is quite likely. The thing is that we have not let the pass have a chance to form a pattern yet and there are many factors we don't know about like again the ratio between first and third parties. Zelda would not be my bet, but it's very possible considering how much of a behemoth BOTW 2 will be in terms of advertising and hype.

Want: 30%

I'm not a Zelda fan and I don't play as the Zelda characters that much besides Ganondorf. With that said, I would really like it if they made a unique Ganondorf. He has a lot of cool moveset potential and yet after all this time he is still essentially a Captain Falcon clone even with all the adjustments to his moveset. As for the rep possibly being another Link, yes that would be redundant and admittedly I'm not too familiar with a lot of the items and weapons, but I feel like there is a cool moveset waiting to be unearthed.

Prediction: Alucard - 25% (I can see him getting a wide range of scores for various reasons)

Noms: Frank West x5

 

[Drason]

New Zelda Rep

Chance:30%
Being honest at this point in the game, I don't think first-party characters can have any real preference in this race. This sort of seems like either A) a luck of the draw type thing where Sakurai will choose randomly from a series that has any sort of significance. Or B) Highly requested characters or fan-faves. The only problem I can see with this is that besides from the 3(4 technically) already in there, the only possible choices I can see are Demise, Agahnim, Impa, or Groose.

Want: 40%
If we did get any of those characters, I wouldn't really be disappointed. I'd be most interested to see what they can do with Agahnim and his magic or Groose and the Skywing.

 

[amageish]

New Zelda Rep

Chance: 45%. Man, it's been a long long long time since a non-clone Zelda character... I think it's very possible this is when they decide to break that trend with the DLC, especially as this is the largest Smash Bros will likely ever be getting.

So, Hyrule Warriors doesn't have spirits? I feel like that's frequently overlooked when people are discussing characters who are missing spirits. Yes, Koei and Team Ninja would own partial rights over the OCs and the art, but also we got Fatal Frame spirits and an Assist Trophy from Koei and that franchise is much more niche then "popular Zelda spin-off that got ported from Wii U to 3DS to Switch with two different healthy DLC cycles." I think Hyrule Warriors could be used to provide content if they wanted to make the likes of Impa, Fi, Tetra, or Marin playable. Same thing if they wanted to upgrade Midna or Skull Kid. These characters may have their native games already represented via stages, spirits, and/or music; however, Hyrule Warriors could supplement in those areas as-needed. They could also add on OC like Lana or Linkle if they wanted a truly Hyrule-Warriors-themed pack.

She'd be a weird pick, but part of me wonders if Marin has increased odds as she could promote both Link's Awakening and Hyrule Warriors at once with a fun-but-weird moveset...

Alternatively, BotW2 certainly provides a road for a new character to get in. I don't have much to say on that option as we know nothing about the game. It could definitely fill a stage, music, and spirit board though.

Cadence of Hyrule also never got a spirit event, but I doubt that means anything. It'd be nice if we got some of those remixes in Smash, but it seems relatively-unlikely.

Want: 99%. Zelda deserves another character. Even if they did find some justification to add another version of Link or Zelda, I'd be happy as long as the moveset is relatively-unique and the associated music is good. I think Medli would be my number-one pick right now, but that may just because I am missing her AC villager equivalent who isn't in New Horizons...

Edit: Whoops! Forgot noms/predictions...

Noms: Level-5 Rep x 5
Prediction: Alucard... 12%...

 

[Ninjaed]

new Zelda rep

Chance: 10%
While I can't say with certainty it won't happen, I still doubt we'll get a new Zelda rep as DLC. If you look at say Fire Emblem, Corrin was the protagonist. The face of their game. But for Zelda? Well BotW Link is already in the game. If they wanted to add a character, it'd have to be an AT promotion or a "secondary" character like Impa, Linkle, Lana, Vaati, etc. And I'm not sure those are the ones that make the most sense as DLC. Although DLC Linkle does sound perfectly fair, to be honest. Depends on Nintendo's plans with her.

Want: 80%
It really depends on the character, but some of them I wouldn't be able to wait to see what their moveset is and play them! Others... well I'd be happy for their fans. It's still odd to me that Zelda basically only has 3 reps, with the others being their alts (Tink, Yink, Sheik). But as we've seen with other games (like FE), Sakurai wants to rep the game, with its mechanics (e.g. weapon durability). Zelda is a lot about using items and it does have tons of items. I guess that's something that'd need to be looked into before thinking of a new rep.

Predictions: Alucard - 13%

Nominations: Junko & Monokuma x5

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

New Legend of Zelda rep

Chance: 15% - I know I'm being a little pessimistic and this would definitely go up in a future game (if there is one), but for now, I don't see it happening. Aside from a potential BoTW2 rep, Zelda won't be promoting anything, and for some reason the Smash team seems averse to adding any new Zelda characters to the roster despite how huge the franchise is. I can see them adding a character from BoTW 1, since they're all very popular and have sizable fanbases and demand (including the dark horse Kass), but it isn't likely. Zelda does have two frontrunners as well in terms of speculation, but Skull Kid and Impa would be in purely on fan demand, and it would depend on how much money Nintendo sees in them. Not to mention that other first party characters have louder fanbases, and we don't even know how many first parties we'll get.

Want: 100% - The only Zelda game I've really sat down and played was Breath of the Wild. But in terms of characters this series is so overwhelmingly neglected despite how huge it is. There are so many fantastic choices like Impa, Tingle, any of the BoTW champions or Kass. Midna, Ruto, Skull Kid, (the latter two would be way more interesting characters to represent the N64 games than Young Link is), the list goes on. All have potential for incredibly unique movesets and come from fan favorite games. Zelda has more than earned it at this point, it really deserves some more love!

In terms of characters, though, I'd rather not see Linkle or Lana. One of them getting in over a much more popular and significant main series character would be a terrible idea.


Nominations:
Concept: Civilization series stage with music (standalone) x5

Predictions:
Alucard - 17.43%

 

[GoodGrief741]

Oh, don't mind me, just a series that's sold over 100 million copies, three characters will do

I'm not gonna even attempt to put a number on chance. I can't. It's just not possible for me.

I'm discarding a BotW2 rep for now. Link is already BotW Link, that Zelda was rejected by Sakurai (stupidly, as much as I like ALBW Zelda, BotW Zelda is top-tier design), and I don't think they'd promote the game with its version of Ganon. Kass, some have said could be the one, I mean, he's a Rito, but the dude's very much a noncombatant, I don't see him being considered at all.

Spoiler: Breath of the Wild spoilers

The Champions are not going to be in it, for obvious reasons. I guess Impa could be the one she gets young again, but I wouldn't even consider her a BotW2 rep.

If Breath of the Wild 2 ends up having a singular side character like Midna who is central to the game's story, maybe that character could get in, which given Sakurai's track record with one-offs would be an outright miracle. If I like the character and the game is as good as it probably will be, I'm down.

So, this means if we get a new Zelda character, it'll have to be an old one. I could see Skull Kid or Midna get in if we get AT promotions, but at the same time I don't know if they'd be seen as a priority. If they're going by popular demand, characters like Waluigi and Isaac outclass them, as do Spirits like Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, Geno, et al. Plus there's Rex, who I see as an inevitability at this point. And this is just first party characters. I do, however, see an in if Sakurai noticed the massive support for Zelda characters on the ballot. Add them up, and they're bound to amount for something, so if Sakurai adds them a la Castlevania, we could get one.

90% Want
Zelda deserves much more than this. A character would just be the beginning, honestly. I think we should get a one-off, because Sakurai needs to acknowledge that type of character as an integral part of Zelda's DNA, but at this point I'll take a recurring role like Impa or Tingle. Anything but one of the boring old three. In fact it's only 90% because Pig Ganon's a relatively popular pick that could be chosen, and it would be like a kick in the balls.

Shout out, though, to Midna, Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Vaati, and Tetra. Those are the dudes I want in Smash.

Noms: Earthworm Jim x5
Alucard prediction: 21.82%

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

Stop reminding me Botw is still collecting dust in my backlog
Chance: 5%
For the record, I really think Botw2 is our only viable option here. I doubt we'll see characters like Skull Kid or Midna in the pass regardless of us possibly getting Springman playable. That game is the next big Nintendo title going forward, so iI see it being either that game or bust. Still, with how little we still know about the game, we might not have alot of options, unless there exist characters in the game we do not know about. Link is already rocking his Botw desing and we already have enough of Linka as is. We already have a Zelda too, so if Botw Zelda is any different in the sequel for Sakurai to change his mind about having her as a fighter, it would be far too late for that. Then there's dried out Ganondorf, which tmk we also know very little about. Not even sure if he's viable either. Possible returning characters like Kass or the champions I also don't see happening because of their own issues. Really, what I'm thinking is that the only characters who have a slight shot are characters that may or may not exist or one of the Triforce trio, despite those three already having incarnations of them playable in Smash.

There's also the fact we don't even know the direction this pass will take, regarding First-parties. We might not even get that many and if we do, nothing's saying they'd all be promotinal picks or that Botw2 has to get a fighter. Characters like Bandana Dee and Rex are both relevant and are highly requested so I definitely think they'd be competition. Sword and Shield also were a huge Nintendo release yet I honestly don't see them getting much after that Spirit event. Who's to say that that isn't all that Botw2 will get as representation too?

Timing could also be an issue. I know Sakurai was allowed too play early version of Botw and Three Houses but the former couldn't get a fully fledged character or a stage with much going on. The latter was also supposed to come out way earlier than it actually did, around the time the FP1 lineup was decided even.

Want: Abstaining

Alucard: 18.81%
Dr Eggman x5

 

[KirbyMonadoBoy]

Zelda Rep

Chance 70%
I honestly think they are going to add one this time. Fighters Pass 1 ended with Byleth as a First Party Rep and was announced to push the newly released Fire Emblem: Three Houses. I think they could proceed similarly with Fighters Pass 2 and might announce some Third Party reps and end with a First Party rep as the final character. And this is where a new Zelda BotW2-Rep would fit perfectly! BotW2 might release at the end of next year and this would line up perfectly to promote this huge game with a Zelda-Rep in Smash.

Sakurai specifically mentioned that they consideres BotW-Zelda as a possibility for Smash Bros. but decided against it due to her nature of not fighting. However, this might change with BotW2: Maybe Zelda will get a more active role in BotW2, we might even be able to control her. I think BotW1/2-Zelda has a pretty decent chance of getting into Smash Bros.! Just think about it, Zelda BotW is a huge milestone, maybe the best game Nintendo has ever created. It would be a shame if no character from this game gets into Smash Bros., also there are only 5 BotW-songs in Smash, which is not a lot. They could put so many more great songs from the first BotW (several Town-themes, Hinox Battle, Talus Battle, Phantom Ganon Battle, Molduga Battle (maybe even a BotW-Boss Battle Medley like in Ring Fit Adventure), the champion themes) and of course a lot of music from BotW2 to Smash. BotW-Zelda with a unique moveset (BotW-Link doesn't count as a new character) would be the perfect representant for BotW & Botw 2, two huge Nintendogames that are considerably more important than e.g. Fire Emblem Fates & Three Houses.

Want: 95%
I really think the Zelda-franchise deserves more reps and while Mipha is my most wanted Zelda-character and other nice characters like Skull Kid, Girahim or Midna are not recent enough and already more or less deconfirmed as assist trophies, I think BotW1/2-Zelda has the biggest chance and would be a great addition. Please let it happen Sakurai!!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Zelda rep: 15%
I don't have any confidence here. Enough to give it the benefit of the doubt, but that's it. BOTW2 is the only thing coming out, and that at most leaves a potential Ganondorf or Zelda that's different from the rest. Zelda's skills in BOTW made her a lot more like a physical adventurer, not a magical-wielding princess. She can do magic, but that's not generally how she's depicted. She's a completely different person in the first game. If this is the prequel, she's going to be a lot of the same. She'd make a fine unique addition(could show off actual core mechanics specific to that game. The Champion skills, for instance). Ganondorf could too once we learn more of him.

Any other game unless there's a remake I have 0% reason to believe it'll happen. I.E. Oracle remakes could give us that version of Impa, mostly for a wishlist idea.

Want: ...It's hard to say. I don't care that much about BOTW. The only Ganondorf I want is his Toon version. I like both versions of Tingle. I want Oracles Impa. I don't really want anyone else. So I guess with the tons of characters I don't care about, maybe 30%? I'm sure if there was a decent list, I could give a much clearer percentage. But this'll do.

Nominations: Fulgore x 4, Brian x 1

Prediction: Alucard 30%(mostly cause he's been in the spotlight and highly relevant thanks to Netflix' Castlevania. There's still his high popularity and Sakurai is well aware of that. Nintendo is another story, but if they can tie it into a relevant product, they might be able to get something out of it? Could be some port or whatever for the Switch. A compilation, even. Etc.

 

[BowserKing]

New Zelda Rep

Chance: 20%. While we have 6 fighters already, a seventh one will not hurt. The question is who? While Midna and Skull Kid are Assist trophies, they could be playable in the future. A few more like Tetra and Urbosa are spirits, but their chance is not as limited as once thought. Classic Ganon and Vaati's main form are not even in the game, so they could appear. Either way, competition would be a difficult part, but one of them could make it in.

Want: Depends on fighter. Those characters would be fun to play as and we can have more brawls between those fighters, which is nice. For overall fighters, Pig Ganon and Vaatu gets 65%, Tetra gets 70%, Urbosa gets 80%, Skull Kid gets 90% and Midna gets 100%. Midna is my most wanted Zelda rep fire many reasons, including that we need representation for Twilight Princess, which went from very represented to no playable representation. Overall, a new Zelda rep would be fun.

Prediction: Alucard (15%)

Noms: 3 for Meowth and 2 for Boss: Ender Dragon

 

[Mushroomguy12]

New Zelda Rep

Chance: 40%
It's not entirely impossible with BOTW2 coming out. However, there are a lot of unknown factors surrounding the DLC at this point so it could go either way.

Want: 90%
Yeah, Zelda really needs a non Link rep at this point. While Mario and Pokemon have gorged and feasted on numerous unique newcomer movesets for the past 10 years of Smash, all Zelda got was a separate Shiek and another Link back, neither of which I'd say are remotely comparable to the improvements the other two series got since Brawl (remember the time all three series had 4 reps). Although, it really depends on which newcomer we get.

 

[3DSNinja]

only skull kid lol
Chance:20%: Skull Kid is the only Zelda rep I see happening. He's popular, has a essy assist to replace, and represents a beloved game. Honestly though, BOTW2 rep ain't happening; promo chars aren't liked and Sakurai has never done one for Zelda...
Want: 100%: Just give me a new Zelda character. I hate that we only have zelda, 3 link, Ganondorf, and sheik. Give me something else. And that argument that ZeLdA is Represented by IteMs instead of charActerS because it's focused on items whereas FIrE EMblEm is focused by characters is really stupid. Zelda has a ton of important characters that should be in smaash.
Nominations: Gordon Freeman x5

 

[chocolatejr9]

Abstain. I barely know anything about Zelda. Although there's a part of me that worries we're all gonna jinx this and get a fourth Link...

Nominations: [Rerate] Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x5

 

[GoodGrief741]

A stern warning: I see any untagged spoilers for the Castlevania show tomorrow, ya ain't getting anything counted.

Spoiler: Nominations post-Spring Man/Ribbon Girl/Ninjara pre-Concept: New Zelda character

[Rerate] Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x115
Concept: Civilization series stage with music (Standalone) x115
[Rerate] Concept: Gen 8 Pokémon x110
Junko & Monokuma x105
Axel Stone x105
Earthworm Jim x100
Concept: DLC music packs x90
Concept: Level-5 rep x90

100 - 51

Concept: Pokéball Pokémon becomes playable x88
Decidueye x80
Concept: Darksiders rep x80
Proto Man x75
Papyrus x75
Sackboy x75
Meowth x75
Concept: Nippon Ichi rep x75
Brian (Quest 64) x70
Ahri (League of Legends) x67
Guardian (Destiny) x60
Baldi (Baldi's Basics) x53

50 - 25

Dwight Fairfield (Dead by Daylight) x50
Echo: Zeraora (41e) x45
Kasumi (Dead or Alive) x40
Terra Branford x40
[Rerate] Steve x40
Boss: Ender Dragon x37
Echo: Dark Bowser (14e) x32
[Rerate] Kratos x30
Concept: SNES-era Final Fantasy rep x30
Echo: Lord Fredrik (67e) x29
Concept: Assist Trophies added in updates x27
Urbosa x27
Giygas x25
[Rerate] Saki Amamiya x25

Under 25

Lu Bu (Dynasty Warriors) x22
Concept: Returning stages x21
Concept: No third parties in this Pass x20
Concept: Second F-Zero rep x18
Rival Pokémon Trainer x17
Zeraora x15
Black Shadow x15
Gordon Freeman x15
Dr. Eggman x15
Stage: Bowser's Castle x13
[Rerate] Jin Kazama x10
[Rerate] Agumon x10
Concept: Dark Souls rep x10
[Rerate] Monokuma x10
Gooigi x10
Gran/Djeeta x10
Lora and Jin x10
Otto Matic x10
The Avatar (Ultima) x10
Frank West x10
Concept: Auroros, Jyk and Poppant as Assist Trophies x10
Chell x8
[Rerate] Professor Layton x8
Taranza x6
Sparky (Clash Royale) x5
Concept: Overwatch character x5
Asha (Wonder Boy) x5
Mii Costume: Hat Kid x5
Concept: Portal 2 rep x5
Concept: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon content x5
Breath of the Wild 2 Ganondorf x5
Tick (Brawl Stars) x5
King Graham x5
Concept: Fortnite character x5
Magolor x5
[Rerate] Andy x5
Cooking Mama x5
[Rerate] Toxtricity x5
Mii Costume: Jill Stingray x5
Concept: Fighter Pass Volume 2 is mostly first-party x5
Jill (Drill Dozer) x5
Fulgore x3
Three Mage Sisters x2
Concept: A Pokémon Trainer who fights x2
Concept: A fighter who uses all kicks x2
[Rerate] Metal Sonic x2

Junko & Monokuma and Axel Stone make their way past 100 noms. DLC music packs and Level-5 rep remain tied in seventh place, but Pokéball Pokémon becomes playable lags behind.

New challengers approaching! We have Fulgore, with 3 noms to his name, and a rerate of Metal Sonic, bearing 2 noms.

 

[Ridrool64]

There is now time, more than sword would be enough.

Chance: 25%. Zelda and newcomers have had a rocky history when making the transition to widescreen consoles. Two Link clones, a Captain Falcon clone, and perhaps a wasted spot on a gimmick whose moveset was entirely made up to fit a square peg round character, becoming extremely dated very fast (no offense to Sheik's fans, but I do think she isn't on the level of the other Zelda characters). This doesn't even mentioned the lost Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik. Leaving us with Link and Zelda. Since 64 and Melee... Zelda hasn’t got much when it comes to what the fans are concerned about, fighters, so our best shot is likely somebody else from Breath of the Wild 2 (this IS Nintendo’s pick) for now. In terms of sustained likelihood, it’s very unlikely Sakurai would choose any of them, and to this day we still have no idea why Zelda newcomers are rejected again and again. But now that it's Nintendo's choice, they might actually be able to do what Sakurai either couldn't or willingly chose not to do.

Want: 50%. If there was a clear community face like Skull Kid back during Ultimate pre-release, then I’d probably be going higher. But I doubt there’s such a thing as a bad Zelda newcomer at this point, whether we get the Ganon we’ve been waiting for since 2000 or we step outside the Triforce to represent the smaller, but still important parts of the series. And hey, it kinda deserves it on both the objective and fan demand fronts. Nothing to lose, everything to gain from adding one. (Though, if we were getting something completely ridiculous like King Harkinian, I dunno whether I'd be amused or confused. Both?)

DLC Music x 5. Alucard is an Assist Trophy, but if Spring Man pulls through... he still has a myriad of other issues, biggest of all Konami (but I also think that his status as a second third party series unique and lack of Spirit Board potential might hold him back). 3.60%. Shame, cause he'd be really cool.

 

[Sari]

New Zelda rep

Chance: 25%
If Zelda is playable in BotW2, I can see her being a promotional pick. It'll be the first mainline Zelda game to have the titular character truly playable* so I can see Nintendo wanting to capitalize on that as much as they can. As for all of the possible candidates from previous games (Skull Kid, Midna, etc.), I really don't see them happening for DLC. It's clear at this point that Sakurai just doesn't care for the Zelda series at all when it comes to new characters plus other spirit/AT promotions would probably have priority anyway. I'll never forget how they just silently revealed Skull Kid's AT on the official Ultimate website shortly after the November 2018 Direct.

*Not counting spin-offs or the Spirit Tower segments in Spirit Tracks.

Want: 95%
Zelda is one of Nintendo’s longest running and iconic series... and yet all we’ve gotten are variants of the three main Triforce users while half of the Zelda characters are just clones (with Ganondorf slowly becoming more unique after almost 20 years). With no true new unique Zelda character since Melee, I really can’t stress how desperate the series is for better representation.

Basically any relatively popular character would be worth seeing in Smash: give us Skull Kid, give us Midna, give us Tetra. I'd even be down for some echos like Toon Zelda, Hilda, or Impa. Depending on her role in the story, BotW2 Zelda could be an amazing addition and could even help represent the various Champion abilities from the first game. Unless they decide to add a 4th Link, they really can't go wrong when it comes to another Zelda character.

Alucard chance prediction: 11.63%

Nominations:
Axel Stone x5

 

[warpenguin55]

Zelda rep
Chance: Abstain
It's pretty hard to talk about a new Zelda rep's chances when I don't know if BOTW2 will even have a suitable character. I'm pretty sure if we get a rep, it's going to be from that game.

Want: 96%
Zelda is the only under rep'd series. A franchise it's size probably should be closer to the amount of reps Pokemon and Mario get. As long the rep isn't another form of Link, Zelda, or Gannondorf I'm fine. Tingle is out of the question too. **** Tingle

Noms: Baldi x5

 

[Calamitas]

The answer to this concept is a secret to everybody

Chance: 40%
This one's honestly a tough one. On the one hand, Ultimate in general has been all about fulfilling several very long-standing fan requests, and I'm almost certain that people's disappointment with the lack of a genuine Zelda newcomer has reached the ears of Sakurai and his team. However, I suppose there are reasons why we haven't gotten a genuine Zelda newcomer since Melee, and I'm not sure whether or not those can be overcome. . . and what exactly they even are. Nonetheless, BotW2 was announced (seemingly) way in advance, and Nintendo must know that they have a guaranteed heavy hitter on their hands with that game. I could see them going all in on the marketing for that game by giving us a newcomer from it, similar to how Byleth made it in.

Want: 100%
There honestly isn't a single Zelda character that I'd be outright against at this point. Sure, there are some that I'd like less than others, but I'd welcome any new Zelda character - even Tingle - with arms wide open. Just give us someone. Between Midna, Skull Kid, Vaati, Beast Ganon, Ghirahim, Tingle, Impa, or even Linkle or Lana, the potential is definitely there.

Nominating Concept: Fighter Pass Volume 2 is mostly first-party x5

Predicting Alucard to get around 17.38%.

 

[RouffWestie]

A New Zelda Character
Chance: 15%
There aren't many options I could realistically see happening outside of Breath of the Wild Form Zelda. I think Nintendo won't answer to the longtime fan requested side-characters, and the only reasons I can think of is Nintendo doesn't see them as important enough to include, or they need much more demand. Maybe ask Koei-Tecmo to make the next Smash game, they seem to be more fan-service oriented.

Want: 80%
Zelda is not one of my most-played series. But there's no shortage of compelling characters the series has introduced that would be solid newcomers. Anyone from BoTW2 wouldn't really make me go crazy, but I'd understand considering how huge that game was. Midna and Wolf Link would be awesome. Some of the fan requests are solid choices I could see being fun enough in Smash. Years later, Toon Zelda is somehow still the only one I want to push for, because I still hope that Phantom Slash will have her enter it in spirit form and propel her forward like Flare Blitz/Wonderwing. It's a minor nitpick with a low, low, chance of happening, but that's all I can really ask for at this point.

 

[3DSNinja]

Zelda is the only under rep'd series

*cough* KIRBY ***** *cough*

 

[Jomosensual]

*cough* KIRBY ***** *cough*

I know I personally disagree with that but this really isn't the day to talk about it so I'll stay silent

 

[warpenguin55]

*cough* KIRBY ***** *cough*

Nah, I got it right